Is there a "standard" 6 button layout

[QuarterJunkie]

Getting ready to wire up the buttons on my cp and realized that I'm uncertain as to the correct (most widely accepted) layout.

Is it     123
           456

or
           456
           123

Thanks

[Ginsu Victim]

My layout is a reverse Neo Geo combined with Capcom




456
123
___4

This way I don't have to reconfigure the controls at any point.

[BradC]

I think if you go

123
456

then you're set for Street Fighter. That's how I wired mine, and I like it. Some people prefer to use the lower row of buttons for the 1 and 2 button games, but I prefer to use the top row.

[Ginsu Victim]

Yeah, I don't want to reach to the top row to play most games, that's why I have mine like I do.
I don't care that the punch and kick buttons are swapped for Capcom fighters.

[knave]

Ginsu has me thinking...

What if you do this:

123
4564

or even add a space:

123
456 4

Just ignore the bottom row for neo-geo games...
...For some reason I've never liked the standard 7 button layout:

  123
  456
7

Meh, I suppose we all just need to find what works.

[Ginsu Victim]

Yeah, it's just what works best for the individual, and also depending on how many other people will be playing your cabinet.

My setup is the same as how I rewired my Pelican arcade stick for PS2 (which I was using on PC as well).

Now that I've built my own arcade, I reworked the setup slightly into my current layout.

I hadn't really seen other CPs layed out like that, but it's what I was most comfortable with and it works for me.

Everyone should just do what works best, not what everyone else is doing. (Though take advice from others as well. There are some gimped up layouts, and many tried-and-true. Do as much reading up and looking at CPs as possible before making your own.)

[Bluedeath]

how about tilted street figter?

 
     2 3 4
   1 6 5   

[Ginsu Victim]

Too much configuring needed with that layout.

[Ginsu Victim]

So, QuarterJunkie, just based on a few posts, you can already see that NO, there isn't a standard.

Do what works best for your setup and the games you plan on playing.

[QuarterJunkie]

I guess I should explain better...

I already have decided that I want this "style" layout (and have already built my cp)..

XXX
XXX

I just was wondering if it should be

123
456

or

456
123


here is my CP...

[QuarterJunkie]

So, QuarterJunkie, just based on a few posts, you can already see that NO, there isn't a standard.

Do what works best for your setup and the games you plan on playing.

Yeah.. I'm seeing that 

[Ginsu Victim]

So it's simply a question of which of those setups works better for you?

Both are used here.

[knave]

I would say that

123
456

Is the standard since It is what street fighter uses, SF made 6 button fighters mainstream.

If you use this setup you will not have to configure much in the 6 button fighters in Mame.

[Ginsu Victim]

As someone who didn't play Capcom fighting games in the arcade nearly as much as I did on SNES, Saturn, Dreamcast, and PC, my layout won't affect my ability to play. Seeing as I'd only play a handful of those compared to classics and Neo Geo fighters (which I'm a bigger fan of anyway), the under-over setup works better for me overall. My friends played these mostly on consoles as well, so it shouldn't affect them either.

Again....too each his own.

[RikaKazak]

I really like your CP it's hot

tbh...I think it's up to you on wether you go 1 on top or bottom (I hear 1 on top is more normal, but both are considered "common")

[Thenasty]

don;t do what most do 

Just be diff..... do it like this and you be the first one. 


12
34
56


 

[DeLuSioNal29]

don;t do what most do 

Just be diff..... do it like this and you be the first one. 


12
34
56


 

I believe that's what Turnarcades does for their bartops to squeeze all of the buttons in there:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=77640.msg809258#msg809258

[u_rebelscum]

I like button 1 on the bottom for 3 button or less games, however for these games I like to map:

 1 2 3
 1 2 3
x

if I'm using my seven button CP (a hotrodse).  Since I have other CPs, I wired them "funny", but they go with this fine.  For example, I have a rotary CP with "two" buttons mirrored on each side the the sticks (b b  stick  b b).  If I used mame's defaults, it would go b5 --BINGO! Either that, or I was attempting to say "before" but it was too many letters to type--  stick  b1 b2, but with the same remap as above, that's b2 b1 stick b1 b2.

  IMO, with mame's ease of remapping, the physical button wired layout is very different than the game button mapped layout.

For example, the physical wired layout could be:

 q w e
 a s d
z

the SF family game mapped layout:

 1 2 3
 4 5 6
-

the neogeo family game mapped layout:

 - - -
 2 3 4
1

and the 3 button and less games mapped layout (IMO the bottom is more important):

 1 2 3
 1 2 3
-

Also, I don't play SF type games much, so if I cared about it, the physical wired layout should match the games I play (3 button & less) mapped layout to mame's default mapping.  (But since I remap anyway, I don't care.) [/rant=off] 


BTW, the ctrlr file is the way to mass remap.

[Ginsu Victim]

BTW, the ctrlr file is the way to mass remap.

I've asked about something like this, but at the wrong place apparently.
Please, do go on....

[DeLuSioNal29]

BTW, the ctrlr file is the way to mass remap.

I've asked about something like this, but at the wrong place apparently.
Please, do go on....

GinsuVictim,

You can read more about that here:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=75081.0

~ DeLuSioNaL

[Ginsu Victim]

Thanks, I'll check it out

[Ginsu Victim]

The version of MAME I'm using is FastMAME .84
Will it work with that, or is it too old?

[u_rebelscum]

The version of MAME I'm using is FastMAME .84

Mame changed the ctrlr format at 0.86 (amoung others).  You can go to easyemu to look at the old way, starting about 1/3 down the page; search for "Creating ini file (For Older Versions Of Mame)".

[Ginsu Victim]

Thanks. I haven't drilled my control panel yet, so this may change my setup.