MP3 Jukebox Software (Touchscreen, With mp3+g, Video and WMA Tag Support)

[karli]

Hi Barry,

new idea from me. Under the Search button, it would be cool
I can also look for the album name or CD name

[Barry Barcrest]

Hmmm well it's easy enough to add but i question the usfullness of being able to search by album title as the album view is already sorted alphabetically and you have the facilitiy to jump to letter. However i am looking at adding some other sort options so you could sort by year etc. That might help a little....

I ended up going out to an 80's bar last ngiht so there still isn't a release ready as i need to track down that file not found bug, rest assured there will be a release over the weekend.

[karli]

Hi Barry,

that sounds good. For the search, I think so, if you only remember an detail from the album, not the beginning letter with e.g. - The MYST - and you look for - MYST - or so, its only an sample.

[NinjaEpisode]

Karli has a good suggestion, however I think what would work better is when sorting the Album view, ignore the popular "The, And, Or, Not, A" etc., just as a search engine does.

That way, using Karli's example, instead of "The Myst" showing up under the "T's", it would show up under the "M's"

Even better would be the option to yes sort by full name including "The, And, etc..." or sort by ignoring "The, And, etc."

[Barry Barcrest]

Here is the latest build, this an attempt to fix the file not found problem.. Let me know guys.

Download:
http://rapidshare.de/files/7534145/setup1445.zip.html

[Dermbrian]

Here is the latest build, this an attempt to fix the file not found problem.. Let me know guys.

I tried it and it still bombs out when using the back button when you reach the first screen of album covers.  Same error message, saying it can't find the file...but displays the proper name of the file in the error message.

I tried converting my first seven albums to use the cover.jpg naming convention for the artwork and selected that in the options.   That works fine.  No blow-ups.

I tried giving the bottom right album a simple name (days.jpg) and it still fails saying it can't find days.jpg.  Again, that's only when you go back to that first page of album covers by using the back key.


Brian

[karli]

Hi Barry,

there is only a little bug I found  , if I play album without right tags.
If you play an normal album with tags, you see the tags. Thats good.
You see the Tags in the one - album - view. If you play an new
album after these, without tags, you will see the old tags
from the album before. I think, you must delete the old
tag informations, before you write the new ones on the screen.
If there are no tags, the fields Album and Artist must be free. 

If I leave the jukebox, can you save the position of the volume control?
When I start the Jukebox the level is allready on full power. 

Today, I am dreaming for a while  , and i found an nice function, you can include in
the later future. If I have an Pocket PC, like an HP IPAQ or so, and I am
lying on my sofa or, work in the kitchen , I can use the IPAQ to change the titels and play the  music by using bluetooth....
What you are think? Its possible? Think the problem is, to write a program
for the Pocket PC. The program must be very cool, small and fast, so that
it can be used as remote for the MP3 Jukebox. Also you need an interface to the
Bluetooth to understand the commands....

I don`t know, that any Jukebox have these nice feature? 

[Barry Barcrest]

Here is the latest build, this an attempt to fix the file not found problem.. Let me know guys.

I tried it and it still bombs out when using the back button when you reach the first screen of album covers.

[Barry Barcrest]

Hi Barry,

there is only a little bug I found

[Dermbrian]

Barry, I just emailed you a ~ 6meg file that you might use to reproduce the issue.  Its a small directory tree of mp3's and image art.  About 8 album covers, I think. 

Every mp3 is the same (smallest I had), one per directory, to make this as small as possible.  But it definitely fails the same way.

Brian

[Barry Barcrest]

Thanks for that, it's in my inbox. I will look at it as soon as i get home tonight.. Look out for a fix up on here sometime later today....

If you use MSN then add me and we can probably work through it in real time then.

[Barry Barcrest]

Ok i think i might have cracked it... I am attempting to find it now but i only have a really old build here, anyway i think it's to do with either;

The karaoke or Video database.

Yes it is a bug and i have found it. Is was only showing up if you didn't have any videos loaded up from the video database? As to exactly why it was calling the code to draw the video covers when browsing the album list i don't know as i only have old source code here but it will be a five minute fix once i get home.

Ok i found out exactly what is going on now... I can fix this so no worries. a HUGE thanks to Dermbrian for the mail, without which i wouldn't have been able to fix it.

WORKAROUND:
Build a Video and Karaoke database using the config.exe you can build this so it is the same as your music database or just a small one that will contain at least 1 page of albums so either 6 or 12 and it will work... 

[karli]

Hi Barry,

thats all correct. I only use the MP3s no Video, no karaoke.

[Barry Barcrest]

Hi Barry,

thats all correct. I only use the MP3s no Video, no karaoke.

[Dermbrian]

WORKAROUND:
Build a Video and Karaoke database using the config.exe you can build this so it is the same as your music database or just a small one that will contain at least 1 page of albums so either 6 or 12 and it will work... 

This workaround did work for me.  Thanks for digging into this and finding the issue.

I  use WinCAB, SKJukebox, and Freebox depending on what I'm doing.  I still like WinCAB's title strip mode, but then again I grew up in the 1960's and 1970's with those jukeboxes.  And I like WinCAB's one-click operation in CD mode, too.  SKJukebox is simply beautiful and intuitive, and the addition of the genre selection combined with the fast startup is a great combination.  Freebox's 12 album cover mode lets you quickly go through a larger collection and is also a great interface.  Obviously I need to grow my video collection and get some karaoke files to really use it to its full potential, and begin to explore the skinning options.

Amazing stuff from all three of you.

Brian

[Barry Barcrest]

Here it is with all the above mentioned bugs fixed, the plus side is it now browses the cover pages 3x times faster. I know i stated this before but die to one of the bugs i had to remove it actually didn't. This time it flies... 

Download:
http://rapidshare.de/files/7680029/setup1447.zip.html

Thanks again for your contiued support and feedback.

[Dermbrian]

UPDATE:[/b]
I have worked a little bit more on the NEW METHOD for the album view, it now displays track numbers if selected and will display the artist name on compilation albums. I just need it to display the correct information elsewhere like on the now playing and queue screens and i will release one more test version. If this passes without a hitch i will remove the old database method and replace it with this much faster one.

UPDATE 2:
I have fixed up the NEW METHOD for displaying the tracks, it now seems to work fine so here is the test release. Also i have made it quicker when going through the pages in ablum view. 3 times quicker to be exact as before it was drawinf the video and karaoke tabs even though you couldn't see them. Now it only updates what is required. I will continue to work on optimizing the mess that is the code LOL....

Barcrest, I think it would be better to display the track name on compilation albums...not the artist name.   I notice that if I have a folder of various artists, that acts as a compilation album.  The track list then just has the artist names, so I can't tell what the song is.  For example, if Bruce Springsteen had 2 songs in the collection or compilation album, there would be 2 tracks that just say "Bruce Springsteen".  It would be better to see "Thunder Road". 

I know I can select the other methods of displaying track names, but I think it just makes more sense to put the track name in the track list.  Maybe the artist after the track name if there is room, but not the artist first.

BTW, I'm discovering several folders where I need to edit tags.  I had one whole folder that had good tags except for the tags didn't include a track name.  So I had an album cover that looked absolutely empty, since I don't display track numbers.

Brian

[Barry Barcrest]

Barcrest, I think it would be better to display the track name on compilation albums...not the artist name.

[Dermbrian]

You have lost me here, i am always displaying the track names. On compilation albums it then displays Artist - Trackname. Maybe the trackname is being cut off due to a long artist name, i can add an option to only display track names even on compilation albums if you require. Or 3 types of display for compilation albums, Track name only, Artist- Trackname or Trackname - Artist.

What do you think?

The real problem is the fact there just isn't the room to fit much on an 800x600 display, i could make the track listing font smaller but then it's hard to use on a touch screen. I am open to any suggestions here, however i think we have enough space to make it at least a few characters wider.

I'm a little lost here, myself, after looking a little closer.

I noticed this in a folder that is a collection of marching band music.  This folder was full of MP3's with tags, where none of them had titles in their title field so they weren't showing up at all.  I added titles in the format "XX - Title"...same as always for me.  Right now, the first three tracks show up as "XX - Title", but all other tracks in that folder only show their Artist Names.  Those first three have the same artist names, so I wonder why don't they show the artist names? 

Regardless, I would think the additional options you mention for compilation albums would clear this up.  As would putting the trackname first and not making it an option to have artist first.

[Barry Barcrest]

Ah.. You found a bug. It doesn't show Artist - Track on the first 3 tracks of compilation albums.... I will try and get this all fixed up tonight 

[Dermbrian]

Ah.. You found a bug. It doesn't show Artist - Track on the first 3 tracks of compilation albums.... I will try and get this all fixed up tonight 

I'm not sure that's the exact issue.  I looked at some other compilation folders and there is definitely something going on, though.  It doesn't appear to be that consistent across the various compilation folders.  In some other folders, sometimes the artist is missing even if its in the tag, in others the artist is missing but there is a '-' indicating its trying to show the artist-track format.  Others it just shows the track. 

But I'll bet if you do find a bug of any kind in this area, I'll bet it will clean everything up.

Thanks agian,
Brian

[karli]

Hi Barry,

good news - the main volume saving works good!

[Barry Barcrest]

Hi Barry,

good news - the main volume saving works good!

[Barry Barcrest]

It has been a few days so here is a bug fix release, almost all reported bugs are now sorted so i can look at adding some of the new features over the weekend.

BUG: Select a track but don't play and switch albums it remains seletced. FIXED

BUG:

[karli]

Hi Barry,

many thanks for the new download 1.4.48. 

I make an first check. Thanks for removing the bug for the picture
on the first 6 Album view. Works now fine!

I hope that you are like my bugreports...?   
Some new or old bugs I found today:

History Button crashs: Runtime Error `76` Path not found

The new 4 - Cover sight crashs under:  Run Time Error `53` File not found

Next song in the 1 - Cover playing sight - nothing to see:  no Album, No Artist.

Not a bug but:
the Top 20 Button takes a very long time before I can see any details.

Belive me, your program is very, very good. Hope you can found the bugs.

Every day I hear my music more than 4-6 hours by using Freebox - no crash no problems.


THANK YOU!!! 

[Barry Barcrest]

Hi Barry,

many thanks for the new download 1.4.48.

[Barry Barcrest]

BUG: History Button crashes: Runtime Error `76` Path not found. FIXED

BUG: Random mode would not always start correctly. FIXED

BUG: Random mode would select a couple of tracks off the same album before changing. FIXED

BUG: Animations no longer worked. FIXED

DOWNLOAD:
http://rapidshare.de/files/7879751/setup1449.zip.html

UPDATE:
Ok guys i now have the animations working at a decent speed, however i have not introduced some flicker. I would love it if some of you guys could check out these animations for me and give me some feedback on them....

The animations now rock.... Smoth fast and no flicker.. damn i like em.. please try em. I am really proud of them now and i think it makes browsing the album covers a little more easy on the eye. Basically i think the cover browsing in SK Jukebox is cool as it's anitmated and it was always my goal to offer something simular, hope you like the result i love it.

DOWNLOAD:
http://rapidshare.de/files/7916358/setup1451.zip.html

[Barry Barcrest]

Animations now work when...

Browsing Video
Browsing Karaoke

Switching between Audio,Video and Karaoke via tabs.

I will try and get the 4 page with track view working and then stick up a release.

[Silver]

Animations look nice and seem to work fine for me......

with setup1451:

When I try to switch to 4 covers with track listings in the options, it crashes out with a "File Not found" runtime error.

[Barry Barcrest]

Yeah the 4 covers with track listings do not work, i am working on them bu it's not an easy add on... Well not as easy as it should be.

[karli]

Hi Barry,

new or old bugs from

[Barry Barcrest]

The mpeg 4 problem is to do with active movie, if they don't play then it's out of my hands. Out of the 427 music videos i have only one has this problem so i am not 100% sure it's mpeg 4 but it is an mpeg 4 codec.

The other stuff is in the things to do, especially the TOP 20 and history file problems. At the moment i have am wiating to hear if i have a job after this week so i am not really motivated to do much on the jukebox, i will try and fix up the remaing issues for a release by the weekend. 

[NinjaEpisode]

Barry,

I'm sure you mentioned it once or twice and said to ignore it more or less, but.....If I want to fix all the tracks that come up as "corrupt" what do I need to make sure is correct in the tags so that they no longer come up that way?

Also,  it seems that I have some albums showing up at the beginning of album view that things aren't complete on.  If I correct artist name, or album title, etc. and then re-run an update in config, will these things be corrected?

Next, it seems if I start at the beginning of album view, go through a couple pages using the forward button, then use the back button, and keep hitting the back button, I get a runtime error and the application closes: Runtime Error 53:  File Not Found...and it references a jpg file.

Next, the Carousel Function:  What does it do?  How do you use it?

Finally, this thing is working so well for me, I'm so close to having everything cleaned up so that I can focus on building the juke now.  Outstanding service and support and outstanding product!

[Barry Barcrest]

Barry,

I'm sure you mentioned it once or twice and said to ignore it more or less, but.....If I want to fix all the tracks that come up as "corrupt" what do I need to make sure is correct in the tags so that they no longer come up that way?

Also,

[NinjaEpisode]

Ok the corrupt albums are probably to do with embedded art. This is what caused the problem for me....

The incorrect albums showing up at the start are to do with missing album or artist tags, probably artists as it sorts by these. Check you have got the V1 and V2 tags lined up...

I'm not sure what you mean by V1 and V2 tags lined up.

[Barry Barcrest]

That is definatly a tag issue, you need to check the ID3V1 and ID3V2 tags in something like tag an rename. You are missing artist and album tags on some and just the artist tags on others. If you correct these then the will be sorted correctly in the jukebox.

As for the error with the back button, i only say this if using "First artwork found" as the image option. Also that problem is now fixed because the 2 guys that had the problem have varified it has now gone away. If you can give me;

The exact error message,
What options you are using to display images,
How to recreate the error.

I will then try and re-create it myself, once i can recreate it then it should be an easy fix.

Thanks
BB

[NinjaEpisode]

That is definatly a tag issue, you need to check the ID3V1 and ID3V2 tags in something like tag an rename. You are missing artist and album tags on some and just the artist tags on others. If you correct these then the will be sorted correctly in the jukebox.

As for the error with the back button, i only say this if using "First artwork found" as the image option. Also that problem is now fixed because the 2 guys that had the problem have varified it has now gone away. If you can give me;

The exact error message,
What options you are using to display images,
How to recreate the error.

I will then try and re-create it myself, once i can recreate it then it should be an easy fix.

Thanks
BB

Alright dude, I've tagged an retagged these things everywhich way I know how, with Media Player, with Music Match, with TagScanner.  In all cases I get the same results.

As far as the back error, just take a fresh machine.  A machine you have NEVER installed Freebox on before and do an install of your latest build.

[Barry Barcrest]

Ok i did a fresh install and built the audio library and i don't get the issue with the covers 

This was a fresh install on a virgin machine here at work so i am lost, i use cover.jpg for my covers are you using a different method?

As for the tags, there is definatly something not quite right. Ideally i need to use something better to read them whilst building the databases so i will look at it when i get home and see what i can do in time for the next release this weekend.

[NinjaEpisode]

Thanks Barry!

Regarding the error.  I do not use cover.jpg, but first available image instead.

[karli]

Hi Barry,

all the these errors are hanging in the ID-Tags.