DOSCab/WinCab Jukebox 3.0 beta 7 released

[Thenasty]

how's those Tags get in there ? Why TAg&rename, Winamp, or a regular ID3 tag program see it ? Did the ripper use a special proggie that no one has and "The Big Prize" somehow got embeded within the MP3 ? This is just one song out of my list, there are others, one that came to mind right now is " Jump jive an Wail" Brian Setzer, this paritcular one did not want to show the AlbumArt.jpg no matter what I call it. It gives me the default (defcdart.jpg) one but not in blue, but a white color, looking at the folder SKINS, I don't see a WHITE ONE  I only see the blue one (defcdart.jpg).

Is this a puzzle to you ? Has any of this ever surfaced before Thenasty got to Jukeboxing 

[PileDriver]

Hi Chris,
Great job on the CD skin.(and the Jukebox!)
Is there an option for not alowing duplicate songs in the que?
I looked in the Jukebox.ini and couldn't find one.
I don't want someone to pick a song thats allready waiting to be played.
Thanks

[Thenasty]

in the Real Jukeboxes, it still accepts it even if the song is already next for playing. Wincab/Doscab proggie acts like the real thing.

[Chris]

in the Real Jukeboxes, it still accepts it even if the song is already next for playing. Wincab/Doscab proggie acts like the real thing.

Most real jukeboxes will actually silently accept the entry without duplicating the song in the queue, happily taking your money; this works because they don't show what's in the queue.  Kind of the "dirty little secret" of jukeboxes.  WinCab really should behave in the same fashion: not erroring out, just accepting the entry and silently dropping it.

[Thenasty]

Most real jukeboxes will actually silently accept the entry without duplicating the song in the queue, happily taking your money; this works because they don't show what's in the queue.

[DarkKobold]

Chris- 
   Just curious - Do you know how much memory the system requires when indexing a large number of music files? To minimize the affect of damage to the flash card, I am only using a 20 MB swap file, w/ 64 MB of onboard ram.

Oh, and the large music directory will come from a network-mounted hard drive.

[froggerman]

in the Real Jukeboxes, it still accepts it even if the song is already next for playing. Wincab/Doscab proggie acts like the real thing.

Most real jukeboxes will actually silently accept the entry without duplicating the song in the queue, happily taking your money; this works because they don't show what's in the queue.  Kind of the "dirty little secret" of jukeboxes.  WinCab really should behave in the same fashion: not erroring out, just accepting the entry and silently dropping it.

This is from their mechanical roots. They used a mechanical toggle to select each song. It was reset when the song was played. Multiple attempts so select a song just ate your money as Chris mentioned.

[Chris]

Chris-

[Thenasty]

could I use HIEW to remove "The Big Prize" text ?

[DrewKaree]

Any way to use specific fonts?  I'd like to use something different and I believe if I'm reading correctly, this isn't possible.

The text is kinda small, but I can deal with that....I'm not liking the split of a CD past a certain number of songs - for instance, I've got a Dean Martin disc that splits out to THREE separate discs.  Is there a workaround for that, or something that may be addressed in the future?

[Chris]

Any way to use specific fonts?

[Chris]

could I use HIEW to remove "The Big Prize" text ?

Well, if you replace "The Big Prize" with spaces, it should then use the folder name.  But this is pretty drastic.  Let me rewrite the ID3 reader; that'll solve the problem for everyone....

--Chris

[JackTucky]

Hey Chris:

I downloaded today and tried to run wincab to check out the skins AND get a list of my missing cover art.  It was taking a LONG time, but that's understandable since I'm using Debug.

However, I kept getting errors, "Cannot create Mp3', and it listed a file name right after that.

Any reason why?

ALL of my tracks are supposed to be track# - name.mp3, the ones it errored on did match my naming convention.

I also use directory g:\music\artist\album\songs.mp3
Thanks.

[Chris]

"Cannot create MP3" is an internal memory allocation error.  I've never seen it occur in the wild before.  Can you set DebugLevel=5 in jukebox.ini, run it, and send me the jbdebug.log file?  Are you running this on a machine with less than 16 MB of RAM?

Thanks!

--Chris

[JackTucky]

It's my notebook test machine, it's got 512 meg of ram.  I'll set it and rerun.  Thanks.

It's a pentium something.  Toshiba Sateliite Pro. 

Art

[JackTucky]

Is there a way to make it run in a window?  I would use it for testing, so I can do other stuff.

Thanks.

Art

[Chris]

Is there a way to make it run in a window?

[Dermbrian]

Chris, I'm likely to re-save my .jpg's to make them acceptable to your CD skin.  What's another 50+ CD's to burn to save them all again?   (archive copy/working copy of my entire library of ripped lp's) 

Question, though.  In random play mode, do you know if the weighting is on the individual song, or album, or directory?

For example, if you have a Greatest Hits compilation with 100 songs in that "CD", do those songs have the same rough odds of being played as song from a typical 10 song album?   I'm trying to decide if I should break such folders into individual groupings.  I'd rather not, especially since WinCAB's CD skin does such a great job of presenting them in smaller bites with the same art.  That's inspired, IMHO.


Brian

[Chris]

Chris, I'm likely to re-save my .jpg's to make them acceptable to your CD skin.

[Chris]

Hi Chris,
Great job on the CD skin.(and the Jukebox!)
Is there an option for not alowing duplicate songs in the que?
I looked in the Jukebox.ini and couldn't find one.
I don't want someone to pick a song thats allready waiting to be played.
Thanks

I've added this feature as an option; it'll be available in the next release.

--Chris

[Dermbrian]

Chris, I installed version 7 wincab on my WindowsME machine.  The mouse wouldn't move.  I searched old messages where you pointed me to a place to download alleg41.dll the last time I ran into that.  That fixed it again.  You may want to take a look at that.

Brian

[Chris]

That's related to the touchscreen issues.  Until I solve those, what I need to do is include the other DLL in the download and document the problem...

Thanks!

--Chris

[Alcohol]

Very nice job on the cd skin, ive been waiting for this to get added for ages
Ive been testing it out and its seems to be working very well, and looks just the job.

At the moment iam using it on a pc with wireless connection to my main pc that has my songs on and it works great, only real glitch ive found is that when you page over the albums when you first turn it on it jerks a bit and make the music freeze, but once youve scrolled through all the albums once it dosent do it.. iam guessing that when the album art is loaded is when it stutters..

Thanks Alc...

[Chris]

Very nice job on the cd skin, ive been waiting for this to get added for ages
Ive been testing it out and its seems to be working very well, and looks just the job.

At the moment iam using it on a pc with wireless connection to my main pc that has my songs on and it works great, only real glitch ive found is that when you page over the albums when you first turn it on it jerks a bit and make the music freeze, but once youve scrolled through all the albums once it dosent do it.. iam guessing that when the album art is loaded is when it stutters..

I'm not suprised that the album art stutters a bit on wireless.  If you have plenty of memory you may want to increase the size of the album art cache in jukebox.ini.  The setting is ArtCacheMB, and it defaults to 4 MB.  I'll look into loading the art asynchronously to avoid these sorts of problems...

--Chris

[GadgetGeek]

How tough would it be to allow (in CD Skin mode) for full album selection (in unlimited credits mode).  For example, if the album number was 0123 and I wanted to play the whole thing I would punch in 012300.  Then DOSCab would automatically queue up 012301, 012302, ... 012314  I realize this is more of a media player than jukebox thing, but if the 00 doesn't display and it can only be selected by numeric entry, it is more of a home alone feature than a party/gameroom feature.
Just a thought.  So far, so good running on my old K6-200 under DOS.

[Chris]

How tough would it be to allow (in CD Skin mode) for full album selection (in unlimited credits mode).

[Chris]

How tough would it be to allow (in CD Skin mode) for full album selection (in unlimited credits mode).

[GadgetGeek]

sweet.  I look forward to the next version then.  Thanks

[JackTucky]

It's my notebook test machine, it's got 512 meg of ram.  I'll set it and rerun.  Thanks.

It's a pentium something.  Toshiba Sateliite Pro. 

Art

Hi Chris:

I'm trying your software again and getting this error on a Dell with plenty of memory, processor, etc.

Attached is the jbdebug file.

Thanks

-J

[Chris]

I see it died on "Don't Pull Your Love".  Can you rename this file to something other than .mp3 so we can see if it's the file itself?  I notice the error happens immediately after a buffer relocation, so that may be a clue too.

Thanks!

--Chris

[JackTucky]

That was quick!  It actually died before that, but after I renamed pull your love, it skipped that song

-J

[Chris]

That was quick!  It actually died before that, but after I renamed pull your love, it skipped that song

-J

Hm.  Nothing consistent between the two logs.  I'll take a look at it.

[JackTucky]

Any news Chris?

-J

[Chris]

Not yet.  Based on some of the other reports I'm getting, I think I might have a memory leak... those are a real pain to track down.

[JackTucky]

Not yet.  Based on some of the other reports I'm getting, I think I might have a memory leak... those are a real pain to track down.

Yep.  Let me know if I can offer any more info.  Thanks!