*BACK* Side Design Thread - 2005 BYOAC Tokens

[Cyber Axe]

i agree i dislike that "in joysticks we trust" thing too i like the central design though how about using last hears border with a new center image it would keep a continuity with last years and have a cool new central design plus

personally i think the byoac and 2005 dont look 100% right though i do love the design how about having 2005 in white at the bottom of the center in the same position were 2004 was last year and leave out byoac since that will be on the front of it?

still, great design good work!

[Cyber Axe]

ive just done a hybrid version of Joystick Jerk's excelent design a mix between his and last years plus i changed the font for the year and fixed some imperfections such as the ball of the joystick not beeing 100% round

[AmericanDemon]

Heh.  Drew didnt design it.  It was Joystick Jerk.  The one thing that still bugs me is the bezel under the button.  Its shown as a full bullnose as mentioned earlier in the thread.  It should be a half bullnose. 

[Cyber Axe]

oops got the names mixed up i was looking at the stuff left in the reply which doesnt show everything!

i'll fix the post

ive also fixed what i think the bullnose is (ive never heard the term before today)

[AmericanDemon]

You got it right.   

Yeah I wouldnt have known it either but I worked in a countertop manufacturing facility for a couple years and that was an edge profile that was commonly done.    Looks much better.

[monkeybomb]

Maybe change "the game is never over"  to "game not over"

"The game is never over." seems so long.  game not over - instead of game over.

If we go the long route why not make it "The game is never over and therefore we build games to play and have fun with." 

[Chris]

Maybe change "the game is never over"

[Joystick Jerk]

"The Game Is Never Over" was on the 2004 tokens, and "Game Not Over" was on the MAME tokens, so we definately need something different...

Game over? NEIN! 

[Pixelhugger]

Here's a version with an upright. Still can't think of any good text for the back other than "no cash value" or "one credit" so I left it blank. Although the clean look of the rim is growing on me. Maybe no text needed since its the back and doesn't really need BYOAC spelled out or the URL like the front does.

[UndeadMeat]

I kind of like the blank rim too. Gives it a very clean look. Not overly cluttered. Might look even nicer with the year moved off the rim IMO. Nice job Pixelhugger.

-UndeadMeat

[Pixelhugger]

And another. Background stippled.

EDIT: Ooops. Forgot to put ball tops on the foreground cab. Will fix later....

[Santoro]

Love that one!

[monkeybomb]

Love that one!

Fantastic!!!

I see a bit of ambiguity in the two rear cabinets.  Sometimes when I look at them my mind assumes that the sides are hidden behind the other cab.  Sometimes they look like floating bartops. 

**please note - I cannot see "The Magic Eye"

[Felsir]

Great designs Pixel!
I personally like the one with one cab and the one-player button. The style is very cool and feels more consistent dan the one with the three cabs on it.

The 1up button could represent that this token is 1 credit for 1 player

[Chris]

I'm worried that it's too similar to the MAME token...

[Cyber Axe]

those designs look more likely the belong on the front of the tokens than the back imo but still, they're cool

[Flinkly]

what about making those three cabs different in some way?  i know you will lose the symmetry, but i like the idea of balltops on one, and maybe a certain layout on the other and the third being a vertical...

i do like the idea of multiple cabs, kind of alludes to the wives that byoac projects come in numbers greater than one...

[AmericanDemon]

I think the marquees should be different and say "Build" "Your" "Own"  That way its a staggered banner.

[DrewKaree]

1)  Single star instead of 2
2)  Smaller text around the rim.  Lower text dominates the outer rim
3)  Outer line (before outer rim with dentils) seems too thick comparable to the inner ring
4)  Perhaps make the machine the joystick is sitting on smaller-ish looking - something seems "off" with the machine itself

Good job on the tinkering!



1)  Seems to only need the inner ring (around the cab) making it one thicker solid raised ring going around the outer edge
2)  Button seems to need the definition where the trim ring "blends" into the button
3)  Black line under marquee would denote higher point, making that seem like a thick raised line, yes?
4)  Less/larger segments perhaps.  Seems like a basketball.

EXCELLENT design!



1)  Text around rim seems "cartoon-ish"
2)  Same issues with the black line under the marquees as the above
3)  That's the kind of rim I'm imagining on the above design.
4)  CP's on rear cabs seem like they should be straight or curved like the marquee
5)  Wonder how a coin door would look on the front cab

Yet ANOTHER excellent design!

I dunno how you guys even come up with the original designs, I've got a hard time looking at all of these and trying to think of ways to improve 'em (even though it seems as if I've got no problems doing it, it really IS hard to figure out what exactly might be "off")

You guys have some sweet designs for a back!

[DrewKaree]

My own terrible modifications (somehow I lost the highlight on the balltop )

[monkeybomb]

I spent half of saturday sorting tokens and I like where drew is going.  They need to be a little less busy. Many tokens don't have these boarders at all and a lot of the good ones have open space.  Just something I noticed.

[DrewKaree]

For the record, I don't like my own font, but for you skilled guys, my mods would be a 5-10 minute job, instead of the half-an-hour job it took me, and the font was my last concern other than to make it SOMEWHAT nice looking.

I also don't like the scallop look, but I think a dentil would look nice...couldn't figure that out, so that's up to you guys   Something THICK, not as thin as last year's BYOAC token dentils.  OR what about an edge treatment similar to the cheap checkers sets you can find here and there?

See, don't feel like I'm criticizing your work, I even have issues with my (copy)work

*edit*
and looking at it again, I'd prefer to see "No Cash Value" in place of "One Credit", but I'm feeling too lazy to change it

[DrewKaree]

I spent half of saturday sorting tokens and I like where drew is going.  They need to be a little less busy. Many tokens don't have these boarders at all and a lot of the good ones have open space.  Just something I noticed.

Yeah, I'm kinda imagining the "heft" feel to a plain rim, and it would kinda "frame" the image on the token, make it more like a bas relief....give it more "pop"?  MAN it's hard trying to explain what I mean visually!

*edit*
Found a visual explanation.  Check out how the Sacajawea coin looks more like a framed picture compared to even the newer quarters...the quarters are less eye-catching.  While still having a 3D effect, the plain somewhat thicker rim makes the inner design even moreso.

Hopefully this explains what I'm talking about

[Pixelhugger]

Great ideas drew. I love the idea of the beefy rim frame with no text. Leave the ring of type for the front and make the back more of a picture. Nice.

I'll put a coin door together and tweak the CPs.

I like the vertical monitor suggestion as well.

Now to find some time. ARGH

[monkeybomb]

Okay, I'm just trying to add a little inspiration, I don't expect a big reaction on this, but - I would like to give half of these tokens to each winner of the contest.  For scale the tokens are in the top of a case from a 100 cd spindle.  There are many chucky chese tokens and tokens from arcades all over the country.

I've also added a photo of a few tokens to help however it might.

[GGKoul]

And another. Background stippled.

EDIT: Ooops. Forgot to put ball tops on the foreground cab. Will fix later....

Ok, the contest is over... this with Pixels "TweaK" ball top would be AWESOME!!

[Pixelhugger]

Here's a major tweak to address Chris' concern about the Mame token.

I'm only going to submit one design for the back so I'd love some feedback on which of these people like best for the final.

[Flinkly]

i like, i like. 

also, not to offend our other artists, but if your design wins for the back, pixel, won't most other entries for the front look funny due to your more curvy view of arcade cabinets?  everyone elses designs have been based on simple geometric shapes, while yours takes on a more cartoonistic feel to it.  i guess i just hope that the back and front designs don't look odd being on the same coin.

[Joystick Jerk]

I like that one quite a bit! You may need to thicken up some the lines though as it may be too fine to be pressed into metal.

[DrewKaree]

I'm only going to submit one design for the back so I'd love some feedback on which of these people like best for the final. 

The button looks like it's too tall, like it's too high above the button bezel.

The sides of the button still seem to get lost/meld into the bezel.  I'll see if I can tinker with the jpeg to see if I'm just nuts, or to show what I mean.

The letters....the "Y" needs a longer tail, it's kinda hard to make out that it's a "Y" at first glance.  The "B" and the "O" (that's right, B.O. ) "holes" seem too small

The right side joystick seems to get lost

I think the roundish shape is fine, but mebbe the lower front edge (from under the CP to the ground) could be straightened to look more "real-world", but I don't think it's vital. 

[GGKoul]

Looks good!!!

Can't wait to get mine!

[KevSteele]

Just a quick design:



I don't know if comes across, but it's supposed to be a start button (duh...)

Kevin

[DrewKaree]

If that's essentially a negative of the actual image, that'd be cool.  It'd feel somewhat similar to a start button too!

[Flinkly]

dang you guys...i had that idea in the other side page 20 minutes before you.

what about a start button guy without words over it?  and make the guy a bit larger?  also, i think we need some different words around the outside and a date in the bottom left, and to make it the front design (heads).  then we can have pixels latest single cabinet design on the back.  done, mint, everyone gets to go home.

 

[DrewKaree]

"Good for one game" is no good....it sounds.....wrong.  One credit or no cash value are tried and true.

BYOAC 2005 - just drop the BYOAC.

Either the web url or nothing at all seems better, BYOAC should be part of the design, since it's essentially a nickname, if it's used at all.

[aumameman]

To offer another opinion, it is busy, but I think it works nonetheless.  I prefer "No Cash Value" , "One Credit", or something 'tokeny' like that.

I like that Idea.

I think the KISS princpal needs to be put into play on the back side of the token.

"GAME OVER...NOT"

"GOOD FOR ONE CREDIT"

"NOT REFUNDABLE" instead of the classic "NO CASH VALUE"

Maybe even a $ symbol with a / or X through it could even be the picture on the back. Remember, "A picture says a Thousand words". This is just a sample of what I mean:

[Pixelhugger]

I think the KISS princpal needs to be put into play on the back side of the token.

I respect that. And agree certainly as far as slogans or taglines go. I do think however that from a graphic standpoint the token ought to have a "special edition" sort of feel to it, since many of us are buying it for it's... errr... collectible feel. I'm guessing many people interested in it bought last years, and maybe the Mame token as well. So I think it ought to be something graphically unique, that feels like a "this year's concept" sorta thing....one design in a lineup that changes every year. If this were going to be the only BYOAC token...an official design thats always available, then I'd say keep things more generic. But as for me I'd prefer something more unique graphically, that sets the token apart from the other year's (hopefully years'). I guess I'm thinking of the tails side of the state quarters for example.

[Pixelhugger]

Revised back. Background stippled to help cabinet stand out. O and Y fixed... thanks Drew. Lines adjusted to conform to mint's minimum dimensions. Superfluous foreground button removed. Super happy funtime phillips head woodscrews added. Neato!

[DrewKaree]

That "Y" now reminds me of the extra-special super-bonus mucho points dude in Galaxian (or Galaga, don't shoot me, but I just enjoyed those games, didn't really become a big fan)

Considering it's for us....that's a cool thing.

I like the screw heads too, especially if, as you suggest, it's done raised, almost like a real screw head.

[AmericanDemon]

I like it PH!  Both side of the coin that you have designed....  now if you could only sneak in your rocket sprocket.