*BACK* Side Design Thread - 2005 BYOAC Tokens

[Santoro]

This thread is for the detailed design discussions and proposals regarding the back side of the 2005 BYOAC tokens.

They will be .984" tokens.

[patrickl]

Woohoo! New tokens

[Lilwolf]

So no nude photos of Ms Pacman wearing Mr. T's necklaces?

[BobbyG66]

When is the deadline?
...we are five months into 2005. 

[Santoro]

At this rate we'll have to go into 2006.  I thought a few people would have had something ready already.

Seriously though, 3 weeks or so depending how things go.

[MrSaLTy]

Santoro,

It might be nice instead of having the same side shown in the 2 design threads... to have the images of the correct side from last year in each thread.  This may give people who did not see the tokens from last year a better idea as to what to do. 

[Flinkly]

what was the CL for under the cabinet?  a signiture from the artist?  the place of minting?

[SirPeale]

It was a signature.  Chris is the one who designed it.

[DrewKaree]

Santoro,

It might be nice instead of having the same side shown in the 2 design threads... to have the images of the correct side from last year in each thread.  This may give people who did not see the tokens from last year a better idea as to what to do. 

Is the atari guy the "heads", since he's got one?  And I agree, where's Pixel's design? 

[Pixelhugger]

I think the heads side should have BYOAC on it and the tails side should have related artwork but no retreatment of BYOAC.

my 2 cents

[Santoro]

I am still trying to fing a B&W GIF of Pixel's front.

[MrSaLTy]

I think the heads side should have BYOAC on it and the tails side should have related artwork but no retreatment of BYOAC.

my 2 cents

Not that it really matters but technically, the front or 'heads' side is known as the 'obverse' and the back is the 'reverse' when talking in terms of coins, tokens, medels etc.

[Felsir]

Not that it really matters but technically, the front or 'heads' side is known as the 'obverse' and the back is the 'reverse' when talking in terms of coins, tokens, medels etc.

[Santoro]

Let's keep the focus of the thread on the graphic portion of the back design for now. We can doink around with slogans, "No Cash Value," etc after the graphic portion of the design is complete.  (Though if any of the text is somehow integral to your design submit it anyway.)  I would like the date to be on the front if possible.

I will post this in the instructions also.

[Chris]

Not that it really matters but technically, the front or 'heads' side is known as the 'obverse' and the back is the 'reverse' when talking in terms of coins, tokens, medels etc.

[GadgetGeek]

I have zero ability to draw, but I have an idea that might look cool if rendered by someone with talent.
Angled view of a coin door with a token going into it, and on the token is an angled view of a coin door...the whole infinity thing
Would go good with a "where the game never ends" type of slogan on it.

[Joystick Jerk]

Another idea I threw together, minus the copyrighted material on my DK Jr. coin! This one is partly based on the american penny.

And about the two coin threads. Can't we just merge them into one thread? A coin face is a coin face, whether back or front. We pick the two best designs and put one on one side, and the other on the reverse.  I think we'd get a lot more designs and responses if people didn't have to keep keep track of two seperate threads that cover the same subject.

[Santoro]

Hey, that's classy.  I like it

As for the threads, there are a few reasons.

I am trying to make it clear from the outset what side you are designing for.

[AmericanDemon]

I really like that JJ.  Very nice.

[Chris]

Another idea I threw together, minus the copyrighted material on my DK Jr. coin! This one is partly based on the american penny.

This is really really nice.  The top text may need to be bolded so the lines aren't too fine to engrave.  I would consider dropping the BYOAC as it should already be on the front and increase the size of the date, and as a very tiny nitpick, the button bezel should probably be a half bullnose rather than a full  bullnose.  But this is an excellent design.  Very clean and right to the point.

[Flinkly]

um...i think the one token thing needs to be dropped for something else.  i mean, it's not like were idiots, we know we're holding a single token.

also, remember that this is just constructive critisizm...

and i'm not too sure abuot that circle stuff around the edge...too busy around the edge and too empty in the middle.

[missioncontrol]

I'd replace the "ONE TOKEN" to "NO CASH VALUE"

my $.02

[Santoro]

To offer another opinion, it is busy, but I think it works nonetheless.

[Chris]

To offer another opinion, it is busy, but I think it works nonetheless.

[ChadTower]

Those half circles have got to go... that is what is pulling the eye.

"One Token" seems a bit wonky, considering that you can tell it's one token by counting it.  "One.  I must have one token.  Oh yeah, I must, it says it right here.  Oh, there's another... now I have two one tokens.  What does that mean..."

[RayB]

Chad, you're being overlay critical. Those half-circles pull the eye only because they are in BLACK, but when pressed, they would be the same color as the rest of the coin, but raised up. In other words, it wouldn't distract the eye at all.

As for the "one token", I agree and disagree. A penny says "1 cent" on it does it not?

[ChadTower]

Chad, you're being overlay critical. Those half-circles pull the eye only because they are in BLACK, but when pressed, they would be the same color as the rest of the coin, but raised up. In other words, it wouldn't distract the eye at all.

Disagreeing is not being overly critical.

[quarterback]

Great submission JJ.

To offer another opinion, it is busy, but I think it works nonetheless.

[Troz]

Does anyone have an image of an actual coin that uses this type of border.  I'm having problems visualizing it myself.  Aside from that I really like the design of the joystick!

[Troz]

Also, the "One Token" text is actually used on some arcade tokens...

[ChadTower]

Also, the "One Token" text is actually used on some arcade tokens...

Yeah, because they modeled them too closely after real coins, IMO.  If it's not legal tender, no reason to follow someone else's model...

[Troz]

I'm not saying I agree with having that text, just supplying an example of it.  I'd rather have "No Cash Value" as well.

[DrewKaree]

This is really really nice.  The top text may need to be bolded so the lines aren't too fine to engrave.  I would consider dropping the BYOAC as it should already be on the front and increase the size of the date, and as a very tiny nitpick, the button bezel should probably be a half bullnose rather than a full  bullnose.  But this is an excellent design.  Very clean and right to the point.

Top text definitely needs to be bolded, whatever it ends up being.  The BYOAC will be on the front, as should the date as well, so both could/should be dropped.

As for a tiny nitpick, I'd like to point out something in order to back up your view there.  Take a look at the joystick base.  The button should match up with the joystick.

The stars have to be a single star on either side, or three on either side.  Two will look odd to the eye.

All in all though, excellent design!  I especially like the "shading" on the balltop, and think it will translate well to the actual pressing.

[Joystick Jerk]

Thanks for the feedback guys. I'll make some changes when I get home later.

BUT, if any of you want to take my design and tinker with it yourself in photoshop, go right ahead. I'll post the base psd file later on as well for those that do want to mess around with it.

[DrewKaree]

Now, I know the basics and the "feel" of it won't come close to equaling the real thing, but what about the back as a button...that curvy shape, your thumb just seeming to fit it just so as you hold it....some plain text around the outer edge.....I know it'd be plain as hell and boring and HIGHLY unlikely that folks would want it, but now that I've said it, just picture it in your mind.

[Flinkly]

i'm with you drew...then again, i think we're being overly nitpicky when we want the flip to be the same as real coins.  quite frankly, i never noticed or logged in memory the way a coin flips in order to read the text upright.

[Pixelhugger]

I really like those highlights on the ball. Nice clean design, and the worms eye view works well.

As far as the text goes, we might want to stick to something sans serif unless the mint confirms they can press those fine lines. I think they requested sans serif type last time, but I can't remember... Dave? Chris? Regardless, I think it would look better with a single typeface.

I also really like the bumps around the edge. That'd really look cool in relief.

[Chris]

I think they requested sans serif type last time, but I can't remember... Dave? Chris? Regardless, I think it would look better with a single typeface.

They suggested them, but I think big chunky serifs like the headline in your Mission Control "Radical^max" poster would be fine.  It's the thin serifs in that font (looks like Garamond?) that would be problematic.

[Joystick Jerk]

I unfortunately won't have time to make any changes tonight or tomorrow, but here's the PSD file I promised for those that want to play with my design:

Coin-Design PSD File

[xar256]

Not to be "overly critical"...But I really don't like that "In joysticks we trust" quote.  It totally doesn't work for me.  I wish I had an alternate suggestion, but I can't come up with any right now.

Just my 2 cents,
Xar256