Author Topic: GunCon2 driver here!!! (Bacon is tasty) (Read 231235 times)

quarterback · « **Reply #320 on:** May 14, 2005, 06:20:56 pm »

Quote from: AlanS17 on May 14, 2005, 10:45:04 am

There are very few actual details for the stand-alone video amp on his website, but here's the link.

http://www.ultimarc.com/JShopServer/product.php?xProd=12&xSec=2

More info here:

http://www.ultimarc.com/vidamp.html

vibez · « **Reply #321 on:** May 14, 2005, 06:29:35 pm »

Just to confirm, do I hook the RCA ground to a normal ground, or the video ground on the jamma connector?

DaemonCollector · « **Reply #322 on:** May 14, 2005, 06:35:31 pm »

video ground

MiKman · « **Reply #323 on:** May 14, 2005, 07:00:53 pm »

Quote from: vibez on May 14, 2005, 06:13:35 pm

Thats a good point. But I ment how would we wire up 2 guns. How would we connect the 2 rca cables & usb ports.

once you have soldered on an RCA connector (where ever you are going to do that) 2 guns is easy. my guncon2 came with an rca Y splitter so a second gun can be hooked up. Then it's just a matter of having an extra USB port to plug it into and having mame support 2 guns... Should be a cinch

vibez · « **Reply #324 on:** May 14, 2005, 07:41:59 pm »

ok i've hooked it up to my jpac. Not much to say really. Once I plug it in, the cursor just moves to the top right of the screen. Nothing I do with the gun moves it. But when I move the mouse, I can only shift the cursor about 5 pixels up or down. I Dont know what to make of this. Interestingly enough, I tried the control panel & when I try to test the buttons. None of them work

DaemonCollector · « **Reply #325 on:** May 14, 2005, 07:44:48 pm »

if your buttons arn't working it sounds like the driver might not be installed. Did you make sure to install it properly?

vibez · « **Reply #326 on:** May 14, 2005, 07:48:27 pm »

the 'new hardware detected' box poped up & I pointed it to the driver folder. I guess thats all I needed to do?

DaemonCollector · « **Reply #327 on:** May 14, 2005, 08:13:34 pm »

hmmmm...go to your device manager and make sure under pointing devices, theres an "HID-Complient Mouse", if there is right click it anc check properties. Does it say GunCon Device there?

vibez · « **Reply #328 on:** May 14, 2005, 08:42:39 pm »

ok it works at 800x600, but not at 640x480 which is the interlaced display the arcadevga forces at this res. Intrestingly the buttons only show up in the control panel when at 800x600.

DaemonCollector · « **Reply #329 on:** May 14, 2005, 08:43:51 pm »

thats messed up...haha. I had mine running at 640x480 interlaced. How is your gun performing?

vibez · « **Reply #330 on:** May 14, 2005, 09:29:51 pm »

same as yours I think. dead zones on the left of the screen & Tracking is off by an inch. Looks like this wont work with a jpac & arcadevga due to the interlaced modes the arcadevga puts out. unless i'm missing something.........

Smog · « **Reply #331 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:06:53 pm »

Quote

Looks like this wont work with a jpac & arcadevga due to the interlaced modes the arcadevga puts out.

Don't know why you are having this problem but it surely does not depend from interlace. 640x480 is an interlaced res just like 800x600 is, in fact you could not display neither 640x480 or 800x600 in progressive mode on a NTSC monitor....

V.0.04 is OUT. Please update.

MiKman · « **Reply #332 on:** May 14, 2005, 11:54:03 pm »

Anyone else with a real guncon2 not getting all the buttons to register properly? particularily the trigger?

Billkwando · « **Reply #333 on:** May 15, 2005, 01:18:54 am »

I have a real Guncon, but the only thing that isn't working is the B button on the right side (unless the thumbpad is supposed to work which I don't think it is).

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #334 on:** May 15, 2005, 01:31:35 am »

Quote from: Smog on May 14, 2005, 11:06:53 pm

V.0.04 is OUT. Please update.

Quote

domenica, 15 maggio 2005

Since I am facing more problem than expected setting up a piece of code in the driver, I feel I MUST release something even if not complete just to quiet your hunger

This mean that the new release is not a major one but still full of news.Here we go :

Whatsnew v0.04
control panel executable included in driver .zip file, not yet as a real installation pack.

Added support for :
. Custom Edge values
. Enable/Disable selfcalibration
. Button Remapping
. Pointer sensitivity regulation

VIM (Very Important Missings) / Todo list :

. Saving results of selfcalibration

. Implement centering

. Write manuals / help

. HID interface selection

Postato da: SmogDragon a 04:55 | link | commenti (2)

http://lightgun.splinder.com/

vibez · « **Reply #335 on:** May 15, 2005, 07:11:45 am »

Below are my findings to date with a jpac/arcadevga setup. If anyone is running a similar setup, please post your finding.

Here is my setup

XP pro sp2
ArcadeVGA 9200 videocard
j-pac
15Hz hantarex polo monitor
Guncon2 Compatible Logic3 P99L Laser Blaster

I didn't need to build the circuit as the jpac does everything the circuit does. I hooked the gun up to the Vsync &Vgnd on the jamma connector.

I have tested this setup on all the modes supported by the arcadevga. Starting at 240x240 & going all the way up to 1024x768

The guns seems to work as well as everyone else says. There are a few dead spots & the cursor seems to be tracking about an inch off.

The trouble is that the gun doesn't even register at the following resolutions.

512x448
512x512
640x480 <<<- Big worry, as this is my prefered res!!!
1024x768

The buttons don't even work when in the control panel. The gun never takes over from the mouse & it is as if the gun isn't attached.

The arcadevga manual states that "the Windows desktop, by default is displayed at 640 X 480" Maybe this has something to do with it?

Another point worth mentioning is that the accuracy of the gun changes at different resolutions. Does this mean we need to re-calibrate if we switch resolutions?

dabone · « **Reply #336 on:** May 15, 2005, 10:33:07 am »

Doesn't the jpac take the sync to a 5v point to point signal??

I thought the gun needed a 1 volt.

Later,
dabone

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #337 on:** May 15, 2005, 07:48:44 pm »

vibez, where exactly did you connect the gun to the jpac?
which pins?
looking at this page: http://www.ultimarc.com/jpac2.html on the J-PAC JAMMA Edge connector pinouts
it says that there is a composite sync on "P" (Solder Side) and a video ground on "14" (component side)

Have you connected "P" to the center connection of the RCA connector and "14" to the outside connection of the RCA connector?

AlanS17 · « **Reply #338 on:** May 15, 2005, 08:32:02 pm »

Getting this working with a J-Pac shouldn't be much different from using the video amp. Just splice the sync signal leading from the JAMMA edge connector into the monitor. If you're having a hard time singling out that specific wire, check below. It'll show you what's what. Make sure you're pulling from the correct side (solder side). Just look for the placement of the "key" (the plastic notch that tells you which side is up).

Anyways, here's a JAMMA pin configuration diagram...

http://www.mameworld.net/pc2jamma/images/jamma.gif

MiKman · « **Reply #339 on:** May 15, 2005, 10:11:06 pm »

Well I decided to take my 'new' gun apart and I found out why my trigger doesn't work. Yhe plastic peice that hits the switch when you squeeze the trigger is cracked at the thinnest point and just flexes when you squeeze the trigger instead of pushing the switch

not a happy camper... gonna try and glue it with some epoxy tonight, hope it holds...

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #340 on:** May 15, 2005, 11:51:07 pm »

Quote from: MiKman on May 15, 2005, 10:11:06 pm

Well I decided to take my 'new' gun apart and I found out why my trigger doesn't work. Yhe plastic peice that hits the switch when you squeeze the trigger is cracked at the thinnest point and just flexes when you squeeze the trigger instead of pushing the switch not a happy camper... gonna try and glue it with some epoxy tonight, hope it holds...

don't feel bad..
this is a great excuse to try hacking a real arcade gun with guncon2 parts!

daveg2000 · « **Reply #341 on:** May 16, 2005, 01:21:24 am »

Hey guys.. I just flew threw the 9 pages of stuff here and looks as if
brandon's S-video to Composite 'hack' still is not able to be calibrated?
(or did I miss an update to that somewhere through the posts?)

I'm ready to pick up a GunCom2 and start hacking up wires to help
out if I can.

I have a S-Video out (not composite) on my Video Card and
am interesting in testing stuff out if need be.

I wasnt able to get the TV-Out ActLabs gun to work on my 32" tv,
(it wouldnt go down past a certain point on the screen - whatever that meant)
and am ready to start goofin around w/something new.

I tried to pick out all of the S-Video chat in the last few pages, but it looks
as if discussion went to force feed back and VGA connections....

Can anyone get me up to speed so I can figure out how I can help?
(I just re-cooped from frying out my Motherboard AND Powersupply in my
PC... so Im ready to start blowin stuff up agian! haha)

brandon · « **Reply #342 on:** May 16, 2005, 01:50:10 am »

Quote from: daveg2000 on May 16, 2005, 01:21:24 am

Hey guys.. I just flew threw the 9 pages of stuff here and looks as if
brandon's S-video to Composite 'hack' still is not able to be calibrated?
(or did I miss an update to that somewhere through the posts?)

I'm ready to pick up a GunCom2 and start hacking up wires to help
out if I can.

I have a S-Video out (not composite) on my Video Card and
am interesting in testing stuff out if need be.

I wasnt able to get the TV-Out ActLabs gun to work on my 32" tv,
(it wouldnt go down past a certain point on the screen - whatever that meant)
and am ready to start goofin around w/something new.

I tried to pick out all of the S-Video chat in the last few pages, but it looks
as if discussion went to force feed back and VGA connections....

Can anyone get me up to speed so I can figure out how I can help?
(I just re-cooped from frying out my Motherboard AND Powersupply in my
PC... so Im ready to start blowin stuff up agian!

vibez · « **Reply #343 on:** May 16, 2005, 04:00:59 am »

To IntruderAlert & AlanS17

Yes I have connected it up correctly to the jamma board. The inside wire of the rca connects to 'P' & the outer braid connects to pin 14. As mentioned, This is working in 90% of the resolutions I can choose. In fact I would say the gun tracking is working better than what most people are experiencing. The cursor is lining up perfectly with the gun, just experiencing about 10mm of dead spots in the corner of my screen.

The problem is that when I run in either of these resolutions

512x448
512x512
640x480 <<<- Big worry, as this is my preferred res!!!
1024x768

The composite signal from the arcadevga/jpac must be changing, as the gun is no longer detected.

Those of you using a videoamp, are you using an Arcadevga too? I really cant understand why the signal is changing at those resolutions causing the gun not to work?

EDIT:: Andy is a top guy!! I have emailed him about the problem with the gun & an arcadevga/jpac setup. He's buying a gun & will inverstigate

Stay tuned........

AlanS17 · « **Reply #344 on:** May 16, 2005, 10:14:10 am »

Quote from: vibez on May 16, 2005, 04:00:59 am

To IntruderAlert & AlanS17

Yes I have connected it up correctly to the jamma board. The inside wire of the rca connects to 'P' & the outer braid connects to pin 14. As mentioned, This is working in 90% of the resolutions I can choose. In fact I would say the gun tracking is working better than what most people are experiencing. The cursor is lining up perfectly with the gun, just experiencing about 10mm of dead spots in the corner of my screen.

The problem is that when I run in either of these resolutions

512x448
512x512
640x480 <<<- Big worry, as this is my preferred res!!!
1024x768

The composite signal from the arcadevga/jpac must be changing, as the gun is no longer detected.

Those of you using a videoamp, are you using an Arcadevga too? I really cant understand why the signal is changing at those resolutions causing the gun not to work?

EDIT:: Andy is a top guy!! I have emailed him about the problem with the gun & an arcadevga/jpac setup. He's buying a gun & will inverstigate Stay tuned........

Are you saying that 800x600 is actually working? Did you try that one?

vibez · « **Reply #345 on:** May 16, 2005, 10:58:14 am »

800x600 is working fine here. BUT the big problem is my monitor (and most arcade monitors) only support up to 640x480, therefore the picture doesnt fit on the screen, so you wont see the edges of your games

Flinkly · « **Reply #346 on:** May 16, 2005, 12:10:42 pm »

i said it before, but everyone seems bent on the video amp and jpac connnections. couldn't you just hook the gun up to the second video port on an arcade vga card and do a dual screen with the video card? in my mind it should work, and you wouldn't have to worry about video quality since it doesn't go to the screen, but it would be the same image...

feel free to point out my mistakes. the only problem i can see is all the extra work (and heat) for the video card. i guess it might not target as well due to poorer quality of image...but i still haven't checked what kind of second port connection is on the newer arcade vga.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #347 on:** May 16, 2005, 12:27:33 pm »

Quote from: Flinkly on May 16, 2005, 12:10:42 pm

i said it before, but everyone seems bent on the video amp and jpac connnections.

vibez · « **Reply #348 on:** May 16, 2005, 12:51:11 pm »

I think I read somehwhere that the video quality isnt very good at all. Which would backup your point about the tracking being off. If you tell me what to do, then I can give it a road test

markb · « **Reply #349 on:** May 16, 2005, 05:38:10 pm »

Looks like Smog and Andrea at advancemame have had some success in getting 2 guncons working.

http://lightgun.splinder.com/

AlanS17 · « **Reply #350 on:** May 16, 2005, 10:10:23 pm »

I finally got my guncon2 in this afternoon. Got my VGA universal mount monitor up and running too. Now I just gotta get it all working together...

daveg2000 · « **Reply #351 on:** May 16, 2005, 11:41:54 pm »

I dont know how far this will get,
but is there any chace the topic of GunCon development
can get spit up into the 4 main categories?

VGA, Composite, SVideo and Arcade Monitors?

For example someone (like me) who has been trying to follow
the converstaion on SVideo development has just had to weed through
9 (soon to be 20) pages of conversation on all of the various topics.
It gets fustrating for some of us that wouldnt have interest in all of these
different areas..... Or for someone new trying to figure out what
is being talked about every few posts....

If you dont like the idea, thats okay..... its just a thought.

It seems as this topic is HOT right now and will continue to be for a while....

Laterl

Flinkly · « **Reply #352 on:** May 17, 2005, 02:28:45 am »

someone could do a recap for those respective kinds of monitors every once in a while, but you'd have to get one of the spearheaders to do it since most of us are like you and just following one kind, or someone who understands all this could do it...

as for the arcadevga tryout (vibez), just hack the appropriate cable to plug into the second arcadevga output, and then go to preferences (from the desktop) and output to a second monitor. since i can't try it out, i can't tell you exactly what to do. you might not be able to do it at all since windows might not see another monitor hooked up, or like alan said, it might not work due to a different signal or poorer quality. it's not too big of a deal to try out, since we should be able to do it our original way by splicing in our gun between the monitor and the card. good luck if you do try it.

DaemonCollector · « **Reply #353 on:** May 17, 2005, 02:31:31 am »

I tried hooking up to the composite and windows won't let me, because as you said windows dosn't see a monitor hooked up. So unless somone knows how to force the TV display, theres no real way to test this.

forbiddenlyrics · « **Reply #354 on:** May 17, 2005, 03:46:29 am »

Man I got a GunCon2 at goodwill like 2 months ago for $3. Now I can finally use it! I'll be trying this as soon as I have a few spare moments.

brandon · « **Reply #355 on:** May 17, 2005, 11:05:57 am »

Quote from: DaemonCollector on May 17, 2005, 02:31:31 am

I tried hooking up to the composite and windows won't let me, because as you said windows dosn't see a monitor hooked up. So unless somone knows how to force the TV display, theres no real way to test this.

your video card has to be connected to a TV to get the composite sync from the TV out. if you are trying to use a PC or arcade monitor but get the sync from the TV out that wont work as far as I know.

Flinkly · « **Reply #356 on:** May 17, 2005, 12:42:13 pm »

actually, my radeon on my normal comp lets me turn on dual monitors displaying the same screen even when i don't have anything hooked up to it, so it should work to be able to turn it on...windows shouldn't give you any problems.

the more i think about it though, the less i think it will work (or could).

brandon · « **Reply #357 on:** May 17, 2005, 12:50:48 pm »

Quote from: Flinkly on May 17, 2005, 12:42:13 pm

actually, my radeon on my normal comp lets me turn on dual monitors displaying the same screen even when i don't have anything hooked up to it, so it should work to be able to turn it on...windows shouldn't give you any problems.

the more i think about it though, the less i think it will work (or could).

yeah.. because the gun has to sync with the display that its pointing at. Getting sync from a TV and pointing at a PC monitor doesnt work.. I tried clone mode already for the heck of it.. I dunno about with an arcade monitor instead of PC but I have my serious doubts about it as well.

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #358 on:** May 17, 2005, 01:45:29 pm »

I've got a "How To" web page made but I need a host

IntruderAlert · « **Reply #359 on:** May 17, 2005, 02:06:07 pm »

Quote from: daveg2000 on May 16, 2005, 11:41:54 pm

I dont know how far this will get,
but is there any chace the topic of GunCon development
can get spit up into the 4 main categories?

VGA, Composite, SVideo and Arcade Monitors?

For example someone (like me) who has been trying to follow
the converstaion on SVideo development has just had to weed through
9 (soon to be 20) pages of conversation on all of the various topics.
It gets fustrating for some of us that wouldnt have interest in all of these
different areas..... Or for someone new trying to figure out what
is being talked about every few posts....

If you dont like the idea, thats okay..... its just a thought.

It seems as this topic is HOT right now and will continue to be for a while....

Laterl

OK i've posted over here but it has banners

http://intruderalert.bravehost.com/GUNCON.htm

If someone else wants to host it instead please do so

Thanks to everyone who contributed


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