Can I use a PS/2 spinner & a USB mouse at the same time?

[Dougmeister]

What happens when you cross:
...a PS/2 spinner with a USB mouse?
...a serial spinner with a PS/2 mouse?

(NO, this isn't a joke... no punchline coming)

I have a USB mouse w/ a PS/2 converter on it, but want to get one of TheNasty's spinners.  I can get either a PS/2 or a serial connection, but my vast experimentation (5 minutes) on 2 Windows '98 systems I have show that 2 mice cannot co-exist on a computer at the same time.

Now, maybe if you did the "Add Hardware" wizard, loaded other drivers, I dunno.

Just wondering if I can have my cake and eat it, too.

Please advise.  Thanks.

[Goz]

Yeah it should work.

Example: Laptops with 98 usually have PS2 ports for mice / keyboard and they also have built in pointing devices.

Spinners and trackballs connected to an optipac are seen as two mice.

I don't recall there being an OS restriction, however if there was, you might be able to use a Y splitter.

-Goz

[Dougmeister]

Thanks.

Tried a PS/2 mouse on a machine that had an existing (working) USB Mouse.  PS/2 didn't work.  O/S = Win98SE.

Same thing on another Win98SE machine w/ a PS/2... added a serial and it didn't work.

Do you think I need to run the "Add Hardware" wizard or something?

[NoOne=NBA=]

You'll probably need to run the Analog+ version of MAME to do this.
It supports multiple mice.

[quarterback]

Thanks.

Tried a PS/2 mouse on a machine that had an existing (working) USB Mouse.

[Thenasty]

this can't be true. I have Win98se on  mine with ps2 mouse and serial mouse and both work, of course only one mouse pointer but my ps2 trackball can move it or my serial spinner moves it to.

You need to install your serial mouse driver, your ps2 mouse drivers.

[quarterback]

this can't be true. I have Win98se on

[penjuin]

i have use dual mice on my computer (it was not for mame though) one being ps2 one being usb and they both worked, although they controled the same pointer, making it kind of annoying

[quarterback]

i have use dual mice on my computer (it was not for mame though) one being ps2 one being usb and they both worked, although they controled the same pointer, making it kind of annoying

XP or Win98?

[penjuin]

xp sorry

[quarterback]

xp sorry

No problem man, I'm just trying to figure this out.
Thanks

[apeekaboo]

Using a ps/2 mouse together with a usb mouse should present no problem in xp.

[Dougmeister]

You need to install your serial mouse driver, your ps2 mouse drivers.

Where does one acquire serial or ps2 drivers?  The computers are pieced together from various other computers ("Frankenstein syndrome"), and the mice are, well, extra mice that someone gave me.

Just use the default ones on the Win98 CD?  Via the "Add Hardware" wizard?

[Thenasty]

Just use the default ones on the Win98 CD?

[u_rebelscum]

Using a ps/2 mouse together with a usb mouse should present no problem in xp.

Shouldn't be (much of) a problem in 98 either.  However, you should install the ps/2 mouse first, then plug and play the USB mouse.

You might have some problems if both the drivers try to totally control all mice, but the default windows drivers that come with window should be fine.  Buttons 4+ might be missing this way, but the rest of the mice should work.

[Ravant]

Here's a quick question... say I'm not running any version of windows... I've just stripped the PC down to a version of FreeDos and am shelling directly into a dos MAME front-end... could it be possible to have the spinner and ball connected simultaneously?

[OSCAR]

Here's a quick question... say I'm not running any version of windows... I've just stripped the PC down to a version of FreeDos and am shelling directly into a dos MAME front-end... could it be possible to have the spinner and ball connected simultaneously?

Absolutely, as long as you still aren't talking about USB! 

Download http://www.oscarcontrols.com/files/MOUSE.EXE.  This is a dual mouse DOS driver that works with PS/2 and serial mice simultaneously.  For the help file, type ' mouse /?' at the command prompt in the directory where you downloaded the driver.  For basic operation, all you should need is something like "c:\mouse\mouse dual".

[Ravant]

Only serial and PS/2. I refuse to submit to the omnipotence of USB yet... I'm a nostalgic psychopath that would still use a 5-pin DIN if I had the chance. Come on, I still have my TRS-80 Color Computer II. :-P

[Thenasty]

Only serial and PS/2. I refuse to submit to the omnipotence of USB yet... I'm a nostalgic psychopath that would still use a 5-pin DIN if I had the chance. Come on, I still have my TRS-80 Color Computer II. :-P

If you find a DOS USB Driver, please let everyone know here (Shout it out loud), cause we been looking for years and can't find any USB DOS Drivers

[quarterback]

If you find a DOS USB Driver, please let everyone know here (Shout it out loud), cause we been looking for years and can't find any USB DOS Drivers

[Thenasty]

I have seen the USB4DOS and tried that but it don;t work w/my mouses. Did you have success using it in PURE DOS ? Which one of those is a working MOUSE USB DOS Driver ?

[quarterback]

I have seen the USB4DOS and tried that but it don;t work w/my mouses. Did you have success using it in PURE DOS ? Which one of those is a working MOUSE USB DOS Driver ?

I've not tried any USB-DOS drivers, I had just heard/read about the Motto Hairu

[Thenasty]

I have seen the USB4DOS and tried that but it don;t work w/my mouses. Did you have success using it in PURE DOS ? Which one of those is a working MOUSE USB DOS Driver ?

I've not tried any USB-DOS drivers, I had just heard/read about the Motto Hairu

I think this Motto Hairu are not for Mouse Drivers.

[moonpatrol 4 lyfe]

Does mame view the 2 mice as 2 seperate devices?  In otherwords, if i'm playing warlords with Mouse A and Mouse B attached, will both A and B control p1, or will I be able to assign A to p1 and B to p2.

Thanks,
Bill

[Ravant]

That sounds fairly logcial, as it should work. If you're using a serial port and PS/2 port, they become two seperate devices. Pointing devices or not, they're still two seperate devices. By the same logic, if they didn't work, then if I plugged my Sidewinder Force Feedback Joystick into the game port interface, and my USB Gamepad into a PS/2 interface via a USB/PS-2 converter, then neither of the devices should work simultaneously. ZSnes picks them up as two seperate devices, and can be mapped individually. So... yeah.