Author Topic: 21" OEM PC Monitors $50 (Read 11807 times)

AlanS17 · « **Reply #80 on:** May 18, 2004, 03:30:30 pm »

Regarding mounting, I noticed these things don't come with any rails. There are still a couple of alternatives, though. First, make some rails out of angle iron. Second, build a shelf. I don't know about these monitors, but my ELO has holes across the bottom to lock it into place on a shelf as well as railings on the sides to lock it into place.

Second, it's a lot easier to mount the monitor onto a board and then mount the board into the machine. This gives you something to hold onto and you can screw the board down directly instead of trying to hold a monitoe in mid air and line it up. You just need to make sure the board fills up the full interior space where the monitor will go so it will catch the side railings of the machine. Maybe this is what everybody does anyways, but just in case... it's a good diea.

cica · « **Reply #81 on:** May 18, 2004, 05:29:13 pm »

Quote from: AlanS17 on May 18, 2004, 03:17:42 pm

How well would one of these work for a cocktail cabinet? Would it fit (at least decently) well into a standard 19" machine? Also, did the price go up or something? It says $109 on the website. Perhaps thee things got popular cuz of this site.

By the way, I'm not finding this deal on shipping that everybody is talking about. It's only quoting me full-priced shipping (and even mentions it in the item description).

This thing's a monster. I don't think you could fit it in a standard-sized cocktail cabinet. You wouldn't have enough ventilation around it.

As for the price, it was $50 + $70 shipping, then it went to $59 + $70 shipping. Now it's $109 + $2.99 shipping. You won't see the reduction in shipping costs until the final screen before placing the order. If you go to their homepage though, it says the $2.99 shipping is applied to this monitor.

-Tom

oldskoolcade · « **Reply #82 on:** May 18, 2004, 07:11:32 pm »

what truly sucks is the fact that the 2.99 only applies to shipping within the U.S..

I put it in a cart to see how much shipping would be to Ontario, and it was something like $315....

Cripes...it's only about an hour and a half away from Buffaloto my place...not like it'd take that much more to get to me :-)

oh well...looks like it's back to the 25" TV idea...

Witchboard · « **Reply #83 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:11:08 pm »

Well, I plugged my monitor in today to show my neighbor what was going on with it (He

Arcadiac · « **Reply #84 on:** May 18, 2004, 09:35:25 pm »

Quote from: AlanS17 on May 18, 2004, 03:17:42 pm

How well would one of these work for a cocktail cabinet? Would it fit (at least decently) well into a standard 19" machine? Also, did the price go up or something? It says $109 on the website. Perhaps thee things got popular cuz of this site.

By the way, I'm not finding this deal on shipping that everybody is talking about. It's only quoting me full-priced shipping (and even mentions it in the item description).

If you remove the metal case it MIGHT fit, measure carefully. Mine fit into my upright cab, in the same wooden frame used for the 19" monitor AFTER I removed the metal case and cut 1" from the top horizontal area of the wooden frame. I simply used the metal front frame of the monitor to attach it to the frame. Be aware that the tube length will add some to the depth of the monitor area, mine sticks out of the cabinet about 1/2".
See this for mounting pic: http://www.arcadecontrols.org/yabbse/index.php?board=10;action=display;threadid=17788

Witchboard I don't have any suggestions other than try to find a repair shop in your area that will treat you right, I still have gotten NO response to the e-mail I sent when I thought I had a lemon. Again for that reason alone I would not recommend buying from these folks to anyone else. Its too big of a gamble because of the support/return shipping issues IMO. Best of luck all and thanks again for your help. ARCADIAC!

Witchboard · « **Reply #85 on:** May 22, 2004, 09:27:54 pm »

Well, it's been 4 days since I requested an RMA from CSO. No word yet. I guess I'll be going to local route and hopefully I'll be able to get it fixed for less than the price of another one. I'm glad I'm the only one that had problems. I guess it's hit and miss with these sort of things.

Lilwolf · « **Reply #86 on:** May 24, 2004, 01:27:38 pm »

ohh bad sign.... the first bad review here.

btw, I got an email back from sales a day later when I asked about shipping.

So you might try emailing to sales..

Arcadiac · « **Reply #87 on:** May 24, 2004, 07:45:24 pm »

Quote from: Lilwolf on May 24, 2004, 01:27:38 pm

ohh bad sign.... the first bad review here.

btw, I got an email back from sales a day later when I asked about shipping.

So you might try emailing to sales..

Read back thru the thread, I still haven't received a response from sales (sent on Mar. 3) or request for a RMA (sent Mar. 10). Fortunately my monitor worked out, but as I stated in previous posts, lack of support and return shipping costs will keep me from buying from CSO in the future. I think that constitutes a bad review.
Lilwolf I'm glad that your experience has been better than mine, maybe CSO will get their stuff together. Still hoping that those who have current experiences with CSO will also keep us posted, as you guys have. Lets hear from more of you who have actually placed an order so in future other cab builders will have this base of knowledge to draw from. After all isn't that what we are really here for, to help each other out by sharing our experiences with building a cab, thru all phases including dealing with parts vendors? Keep up the good work all!
ARCADIAC!

Chris · « **Reply #88 on:** May 24, 2004, 08:22:07 pm »

I had gotten great sales service from http://www.bizsyscon.com, but I don't know if they do any tech support for anything they sell. They still have a number of these monitors available...

--Chris

Lilwolf · « **Reply #89 on:** May 25, 2004, 04:49:22 pm »

btw, the good reviews where on the monitors... Not the company.

I haven't received mine (tomorrow I'm hoping) so hopefully they will work well.

I would still be happy if I bought 3 for 100 bucks shipped... if only 2 worked. Crossing fingers...

Quote from: Arcadiac on May 24, 2004, 07:45:24 pm

Quote from: Lilwolf on May 24, 2004, 01:27:38 pm
ohh bad sign.... the first bad review here.

btw, I got an email back from sales a day later when I asked about shipping.

So you might try emailing to sales..

Read back thru the thread, I still haven't received a response from sales (sent on Mar. 3) or request for a RMA (sent Mar. 10). Fortunately my monitor worked out, but as I stated in previous posts, lack of support and return shipping costs will keep me from buying from CSO in the future. I think that constitutes a bad review.
Lilwolf I'm glad that your experience has been better than mine, maybe CSO will get their stuff together. Still hoping that those who have current experiences with CSO will also keep us posted, as you guys have. Lets hear from more of you who have actually placed an order so in future other cab builders will have this base of knowledge to draw from. After all isn't that what we are really here for, to help each other out by sharing our experiences with building a cab, thru all phases including dealing with parts vendors? Keep up the good work all!
ARCADIAC!

Lilwolf · « **Reply #90 on:** May 26, 2004, 08:33:06 pm »

Well, I just got two of them beauties..

WHERE IS THE HIDDEN BUTTONS??

The look great! Huge! easy! Came with cables!

Only trouble with them....

They are !@#!@$%! HEAVY and my computers are on the 3rd floor.... after getting the second upstairs I was sweating like a pig.

Witchboard · « **Reply #91 on:** May 26, 2004, 09:25:12 pm »

Don't rub it in.

j/k

The hidden buttons are on the left side of the monitor when your looking from the front. The screws are a dead give-away that hold them to the metal housing.

vputz · « **Reply #92 on:** May 27, 2004, 04:13:11 pm »

How are these stacking up as PC workstation monitors? Good enough quality for that, or pretty much best used as Mame monitors?

-->VPutz

Witchboard · « **Reply #93 on:** May 27, 2004, 08:31:58 pm »

Okay... I'm about to be damned impressed. I just got a shipment notification from UPS for a package that weighs 90lbs from CPO. It's not in the system yet, but it's an automatic generated email. This looks like to me that CPO has sent me another monitor WITHOUT having to ship the first one back. I'll see if there is instructions to ship the first one back and I'll keep an eye on my credit card to see if I'm charged for two. If this shows up and they don't require a return, I'll be exremely happy. Odd thing is, there has been absolutely no email dialog between us besides me requesting a RMA and explaining the symptoms of the monitor.

Xiaou2 · « **Reply #94 on:** May 28, 2004, 12:27:36 am »

Woohooooo! Im typing this on my new 21" monitor ^_^

I have to say - that i was definitely worried. Its a big gamble with monitors due to the fact that shipping can damage the internal shadow mask's.

A work of WARNING - Thier included monitor cord is GARBAGE.
When I first fired her up... i noticed that I was getting a 'ghosting' effect... I first thought it was a convergence issue... or worst case - a bad shadow mask...

Luckily... After searching for a monitor testing program or snapshot... I found this site:

http://www.monitorsdirect.com/toolkit/

Click on the bottom to run the tests.

One note it mentioned was about power levels... which led me to the discovery. It looks like the SVGA cord they provide is about half as thick as most of todays cords. I swapped it with another cord I had - and BOOM! AWESOME PICTURE - No Ghosts! ^_^

I was trying to use the 5 BNC connectors in the rear... but they arnt labled on mine as far as I can see. This probably would result in an even better picture. Can anyone identify thier order?

My pc picked the driver automatically as a

" Visual Sensations - vs21e "

It lets me go up to 1920*1440 !!!!!! Which is uselessly small - but sickly cool that it can do it!

You can find info about vs21e on KDS's site. Pixeltouch had no data on it that I could find. I believe that this kds monitor was just outfitted in a pixeltouch shell for mounting purposes. It has no touch screen capabilities as far as its listed.

The picture is damn near perfect. Theres no burn. Colors are brilliantly saturated, and great contrast / brightess.

Theres a Ton of adjustments... more so than ive seen on many newwer monitors. I was able to make an almost perfect straight line on both sides of the screen - which is usually only possible with the new flatscreen tubes.

The thing is a BEAST... Its monster huge - and Heavy! (pictures ive seen do not do its size justice! you have to see to understand) Youll prolly need to add thicker or additional piece of wood to your desk to hold it without fear of sevear desk warpage.

Ive just ran a few games with mame - and all look good. Scanlines do help. This isnt the best arcade-ish display... as its just a pc monitor... so its gona look blocky as usual. However - it makes a great pc monitor and or cheap alternative display.

The packing was nice. They shippied it in a huge box that had plenty of room all arround the sides for adequate foam surround. They used the 'expando- styro' type foam, that molds to the monitor shape.

Shipping time was good. I think was about a week.

Ive got to put a nice black bezel arround the front tho - as the silver front is an eyesoar ! heh

Ohh - and finally... the description about where the hidden control are was a bit confusing for me. They are located on the left side of the metal case, next to the green power LED. Theres 5 buttons right behind the metal holes in that area.

I was also worried about the open frame design causing some huge static charge near the edges... but the thing seems to be grounded very well.

At 100$ this monitor turned out to be a steal. Hope all are as fortunate.

Sincerely,
Steve

edit: I dont know how i missed this last night... but there is very faint burn in on the thing. I think i thought it was just dirty. However... its very light and hard to see so alls good. Just wanted to warn.

Witchboard · « **Reply #95 on:** June 03, 2004, 07:27:33 pm »

Just thought I would let everyone know that I got my second monitor in today. I'm glad to say that this one works. I wasn't told to ship the old one back so that means I'm not out of shipping costs. I'm glad it all turned out and glad that CSO shipped me another one.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #96 on:** June 03, 2004, 07:34:01 pm »

Witchboard, what exactly is wrong with the one you have? Wanna sell it for cheap?

Witchboard · « **Reply #97 on:** June 03, 2004, 07:36:55 pm »

My neighbor said it was the transformer. He works on TVs, so I'm thinking about letting him take a look at it. I was waiting to make sure they didn't want me to send it back before I broke the stickers on the case. Besides.. this thing is a beast... The shipping probably wouldn't make it cheap.

AlanS17 · « **Reply #98 on:** June 03, 2004, 07:37:38 pm »

Exactly how much shipping are we talking about???

Witchboard · « **Reply #99 on:** June 03, 2004, 07:45:56 pm »

The shipping weight was 90lbs and the size was 26"x27"x27". I don't know how much it cost, but if CSO is still running thier special, it would probably be cheaper to buy one from them with the $2.99 shipping.

jmh139 · « **Reply #100 on:** June 03, 2004, 10:08:11 pm »

I have two of these non working that I would be happy to have someone pick up for free. I am located in West Monroe, Louisiana.

I bought one from GroupMidwest.com. It came in bad, and the next one came in bad. Third time worked great. I think I paid about $150 shipped., and would highly recommend Bill at GroupMidwest.com, he really helped out with the bad monitors. Price seems to be cheaper from the other place though.

The bad monitors both do the exact same thing. Grey screen with lines in it. You can bring up the on screen display and see it, but get nothing from the computer. I tried the BNC plugs and the regular VGA plug.

If anyone wants to swing by and pick these up, let me know. I will NOT ship, sorry. I will throw them out in the next few weeks.

Jay

jmh139 · « **Reply #101 on:** June 03, 2004, 10:09:07 pm »

Forgot my email address. maps@leagh.com

Jay

GCS · « **Reply #102 on:** December 22, 2004, 01:59:06 pm »

Just to bump this as I just finished my sister's cab for X-mas last night using this monitor and it turned out AWESOME!

This monitor is really the easy way to go -- had some minor issues getting it mounted right in the cabinet but once done it looked good and I am very pleased.

Thanks to the original poster for this deal.

Now if they only had these in 25" size I would replace the TV that's in my cabinet with one of these ASAP!!

Happy Holidays folks!

Greg

Chris · « **Reply #103 on:** December 22, 2004, 03:39:30 pm »

I wonder if there's a big enough difference going from 19" to 21" to make it worthwhile...

Gunstar Hero · « **Reply #104 on:** December 22, 2004, 03:43:12 pm »

If they still have them, those KDS 21 monitors rock. MUCH bigger than a PC monitor.

A 19 inch PC monitor is really only like 17.5 inches viewable.

Chris · « **Reply #105 on:** December 22, 2004, 03:52:58 pm »

Quote from: Gunstar Hero on December 22, 2004, 03:43:12 pm

If they still have them, those KDS 21 monitors rock. MUCH bigger than a PC monitor.

A 19 inch PC monitor is really only like 17.5 inches viewable.

I have a Wells-Gardner D9100. It's listed as a 19", but since it's a PC monitor on an arcade frame, it's about 18" viewable. But it goes almost all the way to the back door; a 21" would probably hang out the back...

Gunstar Hero · « **Reply #106 on:** December 22, 2004, 03:54:42 pm »

Yeah, the KDS monitors come in a steel shell and are big... but I understand you can remove it no problem.

Mine JUST barely fit.


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