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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #680 on: January 21, 2021, 03:28:17 pm »
 :cheers: Short but awesome update!

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #681 on: January 23, 2021, 11:15:18 am »
Cheers fellas.  Yeah the marquee is etched in the back of a 1/8Ē piece of acrylic.  The graphic will be lined up and adhered to the front, and then sandwiched between another 3/16Ē piece of acrylic.  As with the other etchings they will be side lit to control the lighting on the graphics.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #682 on: January 27, 2021, 06:37:34 pm »
Been so long since I did I write up I had to think about it  :whap.

Got the etchings back and threw them up on the machine:





You can really see the etching when there is a black background behind it.

Next I had a print of the graphics done to scale and aligned the etched panel to the wood with the print as well.



This actually took a little fiddling as the laser etched panel was actually cut slightly smaller than the wood to accommodate for the side firing LEDís:



Here you can see the LEDís ligned up:



With all the alignment out of the way moved on to cutting holes.  Built a template for the router so that I wouldnít make mistakes on the actual piece.  This was the same scrap I used to cut the large diameter curves on the panel exterior.. Also made use of the space buy cutting a U-Trak template when I get to installing that:



Drilled the middle with Forster bit using the same technique I did on the lock for the back door:



Then flipped the piece over and used a bottom bearing flush trim bit too follow the template:



Hereís where Iím at:





Side art and front art are supposed to arrive Monday.  I believe I have everything I need now to get this thing finished.  I am determined to get this done (well playable) in the next two months for some guests I have arriving in early April.  ;)

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #683 on: January 27, 2021, 08:13:15 pm »
Nice work Arroyo - It will be an epic build when done.. in early April.
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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #684 on: January 27, 2021, 08:32:58 pm »
Iíll save the first quarter for you.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #685 on: January 27, 2021, 09:42:52 pm »
Lookin' goooooood
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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #686 on: January 28, 2021, 03:12:28 am »
Proving once again that happiness is...
A good jig!

Looks really nice.
Always loved the idea of lights this fashion.
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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #687 on: January 28, 2021, 07:05:24 am »
Looks great - such clean lines everywhere.  I really canít wait to see it all lit up.  April seems like a reasonable deadline too

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #688 on: January 28, 2021, 12:35:25 pm »
Those etchings look fantastic on the CP.  That's gonna look amazing lit up.  I really can't wait to see how the marquee comes out.  I'm anticipating somewhat of a 3d effect given the etching is offset by plexi on top of the artwork that's lit up behind it.  Hope you light that bad boy up sooner than later and give us all a taste.  Keep going!  :cheers:

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #689 on: January 28, 2021, 02:37:27 pm »



You can really see the etching when there is a black background behind it.


Nice!  You will really like that it looks awesome even when turned off.   :cheers:

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #690 on: January 28, 2021, 07:35:35 pm »
Gonna try to get the marquee up soon but right now wanna make headway on the panel.  Weekend unexpectedly cleared for work on the project so fingers crossed a lot gets done.


Nice!  You will really like that it looks awesome even when turned off.   :cheers:

Yeah hopefully the graphics that go on top of the etching will look good without light as well, Iím happy with the way it turned out in the small CP test project that I did.  Wish me luck the next stuff is very detailed and hopefully I donít screw it up.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #691 on: January 29, 2021, 02:09:05 pm »
I recently dug into the addressable LED's. I'd say they would be a STRONG candidate for the side firing strips on the panel.

Check out the WS2812B and WS2815 style, non-waterproof strips from BTF-Lighting on Amazon. You can get 5,12, and 24v versions of some of the strips they make, and can even use different controllers that can be pre-programed, or noise responsive, both Bluetooth and wifi controller versions.

https://www.amazon.ca/BTF-LIGHTING-Flexible-Individually-Addressable-Non-waterproof/dp/B01CDTEJBG?ref_=ast_sto_dp

https://www.amazon.ca/stores/page/BC2F3329-4DED-49A7-8EF6-5C4BACD4847E?ingress=2&visitId=64d32f47-a487-4357-8988-3267d5421056&ref_=ast_bln

I just finished putting 3 sections of 24v WS2011 behind some new glass display cases, a shelf, and an 7x3 foot nerf gun peg board in my new home office.

Its hard to see in the picture, but the display cases are (currently static), the bookshelf has a flowing blue/purple wave effect, and the peg board has a dripping matrix rain animation.
These would be LEGIT on your panel. I also put them in a Bally Space Invaders back box art pice I did for our local pinball bar. it rotates through a 180 animations with the controller I'm using.  I'm never buying regular LED strips again, haha.













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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #692 on: February 01, 2021, 02:11:13 pm »
I recently dug into the addressable LED's. I'd say they would be a STRONG candidate for the side firing strips on the panel.

Yeah I actually have 6 addressable LED strips already being driven by an Arduino (see post 647 for a video).  And as youíll see below I am planning on using more.  The ones I used for the Control Panel are very small:

They also give off a specific cool white color only as I wanted that to be the look to get the Tron effect going.  It was necessary to get this size so it would fit under the T-Molding.  Here is a pic for comparison:



Standard 5050 LED, (5mm) next the strip I am using.



Kept at it this weekend.  Got the idea awhile back to make the disc surrounding the track ball light up dynamically so I got to work:



The circle Jig makes this feasible with the router and straight bit.  The deeper cuts house the addressable LED ring (ws2812b protocol), while the lip on the outside ring, and lip on the inside ring hold up the plastic to diffuse the light.







Iíve tried many different plastics to see which would be the best at diffusing the light:



The ďSmooth MatteĒ so far has worked the best although I am looking for more options online.  The biggest problem is cutting around where the trackball will be held.  Canít go too deep as there needs to be enough material for it to be attached to.  The LED diffusion however works best the further the lights are from the plastic.  So thereís a bit of trade off going on.  Iím down to 3/16Ē of material and wonít go any further so weíll see where this goes.



Most holes are cut, now onto the mounting plates, which I have cut the template for, so should go relatively quick.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #693 on: February 01, 2021, 02:30:18 pm »

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #694 on: February 01, 2021, 02:43:48 pm »
This is so awesome.  So you can get the rings to light whatever color you want off of whatever trigger event you want?  And also have the lights go around in circles too?  I'm just sitting here laughing at my monitor as I think about the skills required for this and I can't even wire a coin door.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #695 on: February 01, 2021, 03:59:38 pm »
That's looking amazing as usual!  Nothing but top notch from you it seems. :)  One thing I'm not clear on is if you are linking the Arduino to Led Blinky or similar apps so the system can control everything, or if it's just a looped animation it always runs?  Hoping it's the former because that's what I'm after.... in which case then I need to start learning Arduino and will probably hit you up for some insights.

One other consideration for you on the track ball.  I'm the type that plans on hardware failing.  I don't know what these strips life spans are rated for but I wouldn't be surprised if they have issues in 10 years or less.  Then the question becomes, how is all this amazing stuff serviceable without destroying your CP?  Have you considered an undermounted approach so the thickness of your insets doesn't matter as much?   What you're doing on the trackball is pretty much what I'm trying to do on all my joysticks as well.  You might also play with window glass diffusers.  I recently picked up some RabbitGoo window film that is suppose to be good at diffusing light when applied to windows / glass.  I haven't gotten to the place I need to be to really test it yet.  Perhaps something like that in addition to the plastics you're playing with will help get a nice even light spread?

I would imagine the color choices on the LED effect things too.  From the pic it looks like the green is real easy to see the individual LEDs while the pink is looking really nice.

Anyway keep up the amazing work man.  Always fun to see your progress!


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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #696 on: February 01, 2021, 07:54:19 pm »
My apologies if this has already been covered but how in the heck did you cut those plastic circles so precisely.  That is impressive.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #697 on: February 02, 2021, 08:26:28 am »
So you can get the rings to light whatever color you want off of whatever trigger event you want?  And also have the lights go around in circles too?

Yeah there is a lot of flexibility on what you can do (color, movement, brightness).  The intent is to probably keep this white to match the rest of the look, but introduce movement and assure even lighting as itís the most distant spot from the CP LED etched lighting.  This way I can ďmoveĒ the lights on the disc on the outside to give it the same spinning effect as in the movie.

@vertexguy : the intention is to have the Arduino trigger off an output from the iPac from an LED output.  So rather than the iPac powering an LED it will be used as an input on the Arduino that will then run a scripta that will make the lights do whatever I want.  In the event this fails I can run a static script for all the peripheral lighting.  As for failure, while these lights are supposed to have run times of tens of thousands of hours, they could be replaced by taking apart the panel (while a pain, is very doable and wonít damage anything).  Iím not too worried about it.  It would be work but not damaging.

My apologies if this has already been covered but how in the heck did you cut those plastic circles so precisely.  That is impressive.

I hadnít, but itís the same process as the wood circle cutting with one exception.  The smaller circles required me to  double stick tape to keep them from moving.  So the process was:

1.) cut outer diameter circle. (This didnít require tape I could pin it down with my hand.  If it were small enough I suppose this would be a challenge)
2.) cut the inner diameter.  For this I used some double sided tape that was occupying the space of what would remain of the disc.  I also taped together on the outside the 3 pieces of plastic that I cut at the same time so the top pieces wouldnít move around also.  Picture to more easily see:


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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #698 on: February 02, 2021, 12:00:45 pm »
I'm curious how you got the ends of the plastic to match up so well with the wood (see picture).  The router bit automatically leaves you with a nice rounded end on the wood but getting the same profile when routing on the outside of the plastic piece seems tricky---unless I'm missing something.


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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #699 on: February 02, 2021, 12:09:41 pm »
I'm curious how you got the ends of the plastic to match up so well with the wood (see picture).  The router bit automatically leaves you with a nice rounded end on the wood but getting the same profile when routing on the outside of the plastic piece seems tricky---unless I'm missing something.

No magic.  It's because Arroyo is a "swole Chad" as my teenaged son would say.

If it were me, I'd make the ring, cut it and then slowly file it down until I got a perfect fit.  Arroyo probably has a better method...

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #700 on: February 02, 2021, 12:24:20 pm »
I'm curious how you got the ends of the plastic to match up so well with the wood (see picture).  The router bit automatically leaves you with a nice rounded end on the wood but getting the same profile when routing on the outside of the plastic piece seems tricky---unless I'm missing something.

Ah I see, that was taken before the inner circle and inlay was done.  What you are looking at there is just the etching on the interior.  Here is the current state of things:



The inner plastic is just a disc, the etching will absorb the light from the diffusion below.  The area that I don't want light I will need to mask off, and that is where matching that "C" ring might get interesting.  I can control the lights from showing up in that area, and with the masking AND the blacked out graphic going on top I am pretty sure I can control it to be lit where I want.

If it were me, I'd make the ring, cut it and then slowly file it down until I got a perfect fit.  Arroyo probably has a better method...

Nah that sounds like a good way to go about it.  It's too small of a diameter to cut with power tools.

On another note, the graphics arrived yesterday. 



No excuses now to not get this done.
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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #701 on: February 02, 2021, 04:57:47 pm »
 :applaud: Yep, that's Legit :D


(make sure you get those graphics out of the tube and lay them out flat asap if you havn't already.)

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« Reply #702 on: February 02, 2021, 06:36:56 pm »
Nice work, brother Arroyo.  :cheers:

This is shaping up to be an edge-of-your seat finish! Love the look of the CP, it's going to come out so dope! Glad you went with Szabos, his prints are quality and incredibly accurate.

Hopefully you've got a Vinyl Squeegee, makes the job really simple.


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« Reply #703 on: February 02, 2021, 09:13:31 pm »
Hopefully you've got a Vinyl Squeegee, makes the job really simple.

This is the way.  I finally replaced the side art on my DK today after 7 years (it peeled off while in a storage container during a renovation in 2013) and it took me less than 10 minutes per side with that thing.  Went on super easy.

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Re: The Grid....
« Reply #704 on: February 26, 2021, 11:27:05 am »
I thought I replied to these.  Cheers for the suggestions fellas.

Going to do a write up, but figured Iíd throw out the progress:


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« Reply #705 on: February 26, 2021, 05:10:41 pm »
Looking awesome as always :D
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« Reply #706 on: February 26, 2021, 08:18:23 pm »
That marquee is great.  You gotta be chuffed to get that thing onto the cabinet.

Home stretch, man!   :cheers:

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« Reply #707 on: February 26, 2021, 10:40:35 pm »
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« Reply #708 on: February 27, 2021, 01:15:59 am »
Always cool to see the level of work that the crew here is creating.
That looks really nice
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