Is this monitor too good to be true? (Ebay decision time)

[pbj]

16:10 looks legit for arcade games.  The stretching is really minor.

[PL1]

In all seriousness, what gives,  Scott?

That's a good question . . . for Kevin.

Same thing happened last year.

Looks like he forgot to set a reminder in his phone to renew the domain registration . . . again. 

Maybe he was too busy fabricating miniConsole+ cables.   


Scott

[Guywiththegun]

This thing gets HOT. The metal frame. It doesn't like burn you or anything but I had to wait a little after powering down before getting it out of the cab. Does this sound normal? I'm building wood mounts for this thing and its making me a little uneasy.

Do all unframed monitors or arcade monitors get hot like this?

[pbj]

You gonna die in a fire.

[Le Chuck]

I noticed mine gets hot as well.  The plastic components in monitor would melt long before the wood would burn so I wouldn't worry about it, just stick a fan on the back of your build for gp. 

[8BitMonk]

Looks nice, nearly identical to the 23" Apple Cinema Display I used for my Super Mario Strikers, mine runs hot too.

Here specs for comparison: http://www.everymac.com/monitors/apple/studio_cinema/specs/apple_cinema_hd_display.html

You can still find Cinema Displays relatively cheap on ebay or Craigslist, just need to make sure you have the ADC to DVI adapter with it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-23-Cinema-HD-Display-Model-No-M8536-/262618906603?hash=item3d254e7feb:g:95QAAOSwi0RXzgOF

[wbassett]

Gotta love the purists...  Every hobby has them.

Sometimes though people just want to have fun and it doesn't matter if they use authentic widgets and screws from the era... it's all about fun.  I love you purists though, you guys do at least keep this hobby in particular from becoming a hack community... but as Sgt. Hulka said in Stripes, "Lighten up Francis"   

After all this is about having fun and people enjoying the games they played when they were a kid.  If they have an original cab or can afford vintage parts and know how to refurbish them and integrate them, that's fantastic!

I for one see no problem with a monitor like this.  The heat is a bit concerning though.  Does it have a manufacturer's plate?  Try contacting them or look for a repair shop and talk to them and see if this is a known issue.  This could be a reason why they are so inexpensive.

[Guywiththegun]

I noticed mine gets hot as well.  The plastic components in monitor would melt long before the wood would burn so I wouldn't worry about it, just stick a fan on the back of your build for gp.

Good point.

I'm in the process of planning how I want to mount this thing. The way I had my 22" setup was a board attached to the VESA mount, running across the cab to two braces. I'm seeing these holes in the back of the monitor:



Do these look like mounting holes? Looks like they are but I know nothing about the inner workings of monitors so I don't want to be poking around. Would be awesome if I could just drill 3 new holes and use what I already have setup.

[HaRuMaN]

Looks like a 200 x 100 VESA setup to me.  Those three holes directly below each of those look like mounts too

[yotsuya]

Gotta love the purists...  Every hobby has them.

Sometimes though people just want to have fun and it doesn't matter if they use authentic widgets and screws from the era... it's all about fun.  I love you purists though, you guys do at least keep this hobby in particular from becoming a hack community... but as Sgt. Hulka said in Stripes, "Lighten up Francis"   

After all this is about having fun and people enjoying the games they played when they were a kid.  If they have an original cab or can afford vintage parts and know how to refurbish them and integrate them, that's fantastic!

I for one see no problem with a monitor like this.  The heat is a bit concerning though.  Does it have a manufacturer's plate?  Try contacting them or look for a repair shop and talk to them and see if this is a known issue.  This could be a reason why they are so inexpensive.

Thank you for telling us how to enjoy our hobby. You must be fun at parties.

[yotsuya]

Oh, and by clicking on the bunch of links, I accidentally ordered one of these monitors. So yay, I guess?

[ed12]

my touch tunes elo's do the same thing (run hot) ,  a few 2" 12volt fans takes care of that problem

ed

[vwalbridge]

Gotta love the purists...  Every hobby has them.

Sometimes though people just want to have fun and it doesn't matter if they use authentic widgets and screws from the era... it's all about fun.  I love you purists though, you guys do at least keep this hobby in particular from becoming a hack community... but as Sgt. Hulka said in Stripes, "Lighten up Francis"   

After all this is about having fun and people enjoying the games they played when they were a kid.  If they have an original cab or can afford vintage parts and know how to refurbish them and integrate them, that's fantastic!

I for one see no problem with a monitor like this.  The heat is a bit concerning though.  Does it have a manufacturer's plate?  Try contacting them or look for a repair shop and talk to them and see if this is a known issue.  This could be a reason why they are so inexpensive.

Thank you for telling us how to enjoy our hobby. You must be fun at parties.

I like yots.

[markc74]

You gonna die in a fire.

[wbassett]

lol ok...  noted.  Purists complaining that someone is telling them how to do things 

If that's what you like and makes things fun for you then great.  The point is others still have fun and have great looking cabs that aren't 'authentic' but still give them the same feel and fun... to them. 

Again my concern is the heating problem reported about this monitor.  If it's normal and just needs a fan then this sounds like a nice option.

[wbassett]

Looks like the guy still has 4 left, I think I might snag one of these.

[Guywiththegun]

Looks like a 200 x 100 VESA setup to me.  Those three holes directly below each of those look like mounts too

Interesting. I wouldn't even know where to start with those big bottom holes. How would you secure/mount to those?

[vwalbridge]

Looks like a 200 x 100 VESA setup to me.  Those three holes directly below each of those look like mounts too

Interesting. I wouldn't even know where to start with those big bottom holes. How would you secure/mount to those?

Not 100% sure about those 3 mounting holes.  But if you look at the PDF of the manual, on page 5, it looks like Planar intended for only the outside mounting brackets to be used.

[yotsuya]

Yeah,  well if you consider me a purist, so be it. I don't consider it a pejorative.

[Malenko]

Purists complaining that someone is telling them how to do things 

No one has said anything about these monitors in a "purist light". Just mentioning image stretch and it not being so bad in 16:10 . I dont consider making people aware of the aspect ratio acting like a purist, it's more akin to someone coming in here and trashing the monitor cause its LCD not a CRT but that didnt happen.

[pbj]

Apparently there's a lot of invisible arguments going on around here lately.

[Le Chuck]

I'd like to be invisible.  I'd use my special power to fart loudly near people that sit on the same side of the booth in restaurants. 

[pbj]

After I got tired of the locker rooms, I'd probably use that ability to shoplift beef jerky.

[vwalbridge]

Apparently there's a lot of invisible arguments going on around here lately.

Apparently there are arguments of invisible arguments going on too.

[Le Chuck]

Shits overpriced.  10/10 would theive.

[yotsuya]

I'd like to be invisible.  I'd use my special power to fart loudly near people that sit on the same side of the booth in restaurants.

Just nut up bro and let them rip when you gotta. Make America great again.

[wp34]

Apparently there's a lot of invisible arguments going on around here lately.

I'd rep you if I could.   

[yotsuya]

Apparently there's a lot of invisible arguments going on around here lately.

They fit in great with the invisible restorations and undisclosed full-size builds being not posted.

[ed12]

well mine are in
the first one out of the gate , running on pga golf looks great. will post pictures as soon as I mount it
not as high as I would like, but is but on that matter.
for the cost u cannot beat them

ed

[pcss911]

Do we know what type of panel this is?   (PVA, TN, IPS, etc)?   The user guide doesn't specify.  On an all-black screen, is there a "glow"?   On 4:3 games, where the sides will likely be black, many otherwise good IPS panels have that annoying (and to me, distracting) glow...

[ed12]

no side glow
and they do run hot
will need a few fans
pictures are coming of pga running

e

[pcss911]

Thanks for the quick feedback.  As for the heat, what specifically do you find to be a proper solution in terms of fans?  (type and placement of fan(s), any airflow at all, or definitely highest possible airflow with a strong wind aimed directly at the metal frame, etc)   Or, do you feel it could also remain perfectly usable, for hours at a time, with no fans, knowing that although there will be heat, there would not be enough to be any cause of concern for safety?  For example, if mounting with wood, would the wood truly cook without multiple strong fans?   As encouraged as I thought I was about this panel, maybe dealing with the heat isn't worth it?

[ed12]

the heat will be a problem if ran for more then 4hrs
2 small 2" fans pushing air down to the top inside will keep it from thermal run away
u know there running hot when the mounting brackets are hot to the touch (after a few "2" hours of run time)
so u must then get your mind wrapped around cooling it off and or face drying out caps or worse (full failure)

ed

[pcss911]

This then begs the question - what makes this panel worth the effort to mitigate this issue?  If one is perfectly happy with, for example,  a 24" 16x10 that costs, say, twice as much (new and with very good brightness, viewing angles, etc), I have to wonder if this annoying con outweighs its pros.
Is the screen quality just that unbelievably good, or is it worthwhile only in light of its lower cost?

[ed12]

the trade off is both ways
if u want right out of the box perfect ? then they are not for u.
if u can deal with a few hick up's ? then they are well worth the price
u need to pick

ed

[lilshawn]

this panel would be cold cathode illuminated. even though the name has COLD in it, they are far from it. they actually run cold cathode tubes pretty hard so they tend to throw a lot of heat.

I mounted a similar panel  i scabbed from a pokertek table in a Golden Tee Cabinet a while back. I just used a chunk of angle bracket to mount a computer fan (90mm) blowing up the back of the monitor from the bottom. not a problem with it yet.

I this type of monitor was designed with being upright in the open air using convection currents to cool it or in an enclosure with a fan.

[ed12]

ya after 24hrs of solid run time
thermo seems to have evened out
not as hot to the touch etc etc
still will be putting a few fans in, because of the fact that the brightness will need to be high
hence more heat
besides that well worth it so far

ed

[ed12]

here is the finished pga with this monitor

ed

[lilshawn]

not too bad a fit.

take the glass out, mask the glass where the monitor is and spray it black on the rear side. nobody will know.

[yotsuya]

I ended up selling mine for what I paid for it.