Is this monitor too good to be true? (Ebay decision time)

[Guywiththegun]

I have a 22" LCD that I settled on using for my cab, but its been getting to me that I can go bigger with the space I have (23.75" across), so I've kept an eye out on things. Seems if I put all this time, effort, and  money on something, I shouldn't settle with arguably the most important part.

I came across this on Ebay:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Planar-LB2650W-26-Open-Frame-Monitor/122086387965

Only $100 and 1920x1200 (more viewable area for 4:3 games). Response time looks good. Contrast ratio looks good. Open frame so I can mount it pretty easily. I questioned the guy on scratches and he replied they have a bunch and will make sure i get a "clean" one. I looked up the dimensions and this thing is 23.3" wide, so it will fit perfectly while giving me the biggest screen I could fit in the cab.

Anyone see any red flags?

[Slippyblade]

Keep us in the loop on this.  That seems a  really good deal if it's legit.

[DeLuSioNal29]

Yeah, I'm tempted.  But would really like to see if first.

It's already de-cased so would be ideal for MAME.

DeL

[pbj]

Pull the trigger, gunman.

[ed12]

I pulled the "trigger" already

ed

[DeLuSioNal29]

I pulled the "trigger" already

ed

Saw that 2 people already did on the listing.   

Let us know what you think!

DeL

[Guywiththegun]

I ended up biting too. Hopefully it works out. I'll definitely report back.

[yotsuya]

The only thing I would be concerned about are the scratches. If they're really deep, they'll show. Other than that, yes, let us know how they work out.

[paigeoliver]

I wouldn't call $100 for a used monitor with the same 4:3 area as any old 21" CRT monitor that you can get off craigslist for $25 as too good to be true.

Given the choice between that and a 2005 era Viewsonic CRT, I would use the viewsonic every time.

[Guywiththegun]

I wouldn't call $100 for a used monitor with the same 4:3 area as any old 21" CRT monitor that you can get off craigslist for $25 as too good to be true.

Given the choice between that and a 2005 era Viewsonic CRT, I would use the viewsonic every time.

Its actually about the same as  the 4:3 area of a 23" monitor (if one even exists). I did my homework 

http://www.displaywars.com/23-inch-4x3-vs-26-inch-16x10

I gave up on CRTs for many reason. Outside of the hassle, weight, etc. I do intend to play things like Street Fighter 4 along with the classics.

[paigeoliver]

I gave up on CRTs for many reason. Outside of the hassle, weight, etc. I do intend to play things like Street Fighter 4 along with the classics.

If Street Fighter 4 had a native aspect ratio it would be 5:4, that is the only ratio that doesn't crop the backgrounds.

[pbj]

I've got a comparably sized 16:10 from Dell.  Games look great, minimal black bars.  Scratches will likely disappear behind tinted plexi.

[DeLuSioNal29]

If Street Fighter 4 had a native aspect ratio it would be 5:4, that is the only ratio that doesn't crop the backgrounds.

Mine looks fine on my 27" 4:3 CRT.  ~Hadouken!~

[SlammedNiss]

Anybody looking to buy one can get an additional $10 off today only (09/07) using coupon code C10FALLFLASH during checkout. Not my auction, just thought I'd let people know.

[paigeoliver]

Didn't realize from the listing it was 16:10. I'd still pick the Viewsonic crt.

I wouldn't call $100 for a used monitor with the same 4:3 area as any old 21" CRT monitor that you can get off craigslist for $25 as too good to be true.

Given the choice between that and a 2005 era Viewsonic CRT, I would use the viewsonic every time.

Its actually about the same as  the 4:3 area of a 23" monitor (if one even exists). I did my homework 

http://www.displaywars.com/23-inch-4x3-vs-26-inch-16x10

I gave up on CRTs for many reason. Outside of the hassle, weight, etc. I do intend to play things like Street Fighter 4 along with the classics.

[ed12]

well we own 3 of them
so we will soon find out

ed

[ChadTower]

IGiven the choice between that and a 2005 era Viewsonic CRT, I would use the viewsonic every time.

These are surprisingly hard to find now larger than 17".  People dumped them with extreme prejudice and now they're difficult to find.  Maybe a few phishers on CL trying to get $100 for them but that's about it.

[JDFan]

Anybody looking to buy one can get an additional $10 off today only (09/07) using coupon code C10FALLFLASH during checkout. Not my auction, just thought I'd let people know.

Thanks for the heads up on the code --- been meaning to order a couple Sanwa JLFs  and since the 2 came to $46.50 added a cheap multi card reader ($1.59) and a couple little jumper wire sets ($0.99 for 40) to make the total over $50 and used the code to save the $10 (got the multi card reader and jumpers free and saved $6.50 on the Joysticks.  )

[pbj]

I just tossed two working 15" CGA monitors this morning.  ---fudgesicle--- CRTs.

[keilmillerjr]

After deciding to buy a working arcade machine, i dont think id ever buy an lcd again. Salvation Army is going out of business this month in ct. A CRT tv normally $5 is now 75÷ off.

[paigeoliver]

IGiven the choice between that and a 2005 era Viewsonic CRT, I would use the viewsonic every time.

These are surprisingly hard to find now larger than 17".  People dumped them with extreme prejudice and now they're difficult to find.  Maybe a few phishers on CL trying to get $100 for them but that's about it.

Yeah, you do normally have to look for a couple months now. However asking around can often make them appear as well.

[pbj]

Cool story, bro.

[lilshawn]

well we own 3 of them
so we will soon find out

ed

how much did the guy charge to ship to canada for you?

[ed12]

I had them shipped to my point huron addy

ed

[lilshawn]

I had them shipped to my point huron addy

ed

ahh, the advantages to living close to the border. my friend who lives in BC has stuff from the US that won't ship to canada shipped to a gas station in the US which is only a 20 minute drive away... she just picks it up there. They make a business of it and do it for loads of people.

I'm unfortunately 6 hours away from the closest border crossing.

[ed12]

oh heck ya
if I rem right the boss is going to vena meeting over the weekend
he should have them with him Monday.. we will see
then I will update the thread for u ppl

ed

[pbj]

Mind boggles at all the mundane stuff Canadians are smuggling in from a gas station.

Guns?

Neosporin?

[ed12]

no smuggling going on pbj
it will be legal
just saves us a boat load of $$$ if we do it this way

ed

[HaRuMaN]

Costs me ~$35 to send a weecade to Maine.  Go a few miles north into Canada?  Over $100.  It's nuts.   

[Malenko]

63 cents to send a padded envelope with 2 3D prints from Pennsylvania to California via USPS

[ed12]

example of ding ding ding costs
calif to Canada turntable parts for repair
cost of parts 45$
cost of shipping/duty fees 145.00$
go fiq.

ed

[pbj]

Love how you Canucks always brag so openly about defrauding your government.

[Malenko]

Love how you Canucks always brag so openly about defrauding your government.

says the guy who defrauds Amazon so proudly

[DeLuSioNal29]

says the guy who defrauds Amazon so proudly

Where's that + rep button again?

[Guywiththegun]

Scheduled to arrive today. I'm excited. Hopefully this was worth it! I can't go back to a 22" monitor now.

[pbj]

Love how you Canucks always brag so openly about defrauding your government.

says the guy who defrauds Amazon so proudly

Go be jealous somewhere else.

[ed12]

well pbj all u do is brag how u scoped this that or the other from amazon..
what's wrong dose the shoe not feel right
maybe u can "con" them out of another coupon ?

ed

[lilshawn]

I wouldn't say it's exactly conning the government. Some people just don't want to deal with shipping out of the country. so we would just have it shipped to an address in the US.

The border sometimes (but doesn't usually) just charge you tax on the item when you bring it back.

For those uninitiated in cross-border shopping, there are rules as to what you can and can't bring back with you from the US... Things you 100% can't...Things you can for a fee... and things you can at no additional charge.  Whether or not you have to pay is up to the discretion of the officer. I've bought 200 worth of clothes and shoes and another 300 of grocery items and paid no tax or duty... I've also paid through the teeth for a single bathing suit.

you have anything to declare? yes, i picked up an ebay shipment from the store. okay, bring it in and we will have a look. easy as that. If the officer deems what you have will be resold (50 iphone cases all the same) you will likely get charged full duty... if it's obviously for personal use (2 iphone cases, keyboard, and monitor) , he will likely let you away without paying anything or just charging sales tax.

[pbj]

Lol "con" okay dude.  I'm aware of their policies and expect them to abide by them.  All gift cards have been acquired legitimately - I gave a thorough write up here of how I did it.

And yes, yes, I'm aware of import duties and circumventing them.  Family in the Caribbean = you gonna remail packages.

[opt2not]

One of the "freedoms" i'm enjoying living here in the US now: Fast and cheap shipping, plus deliveries on Saturdays.
No more sitting-on-the-fence with an item due to shipping charges and time it would take to ship to me in Canada. Now my disposable income can be truly FREEEEEEEE!

Other than that, cheap booze and gas is amazing. But the little snippets of racism I catch in conversations here and there sucks. It's sometimes like I've traveled back in time.

[ed12]

pbj my poke at u was to extract that exact answer
but I will add we do pay tax and we do have a shipping handler we pay a yearly fee to . to do the importing crap.
again as I run my own company I do from time to time get a sample product to test.
by no means is it illegal

ed

[BadMouth]

I find Amazon's deliveries on Sunday to be a little annoying.
I'm always like "Awe geeze, this wasn't important enough to run you out here on a Sunday" to the postman.
The last one was a 2017 calendar I'd pre-ordered a month ago.
Really, it could have waited.

[lilshawn]

One of the "freedoms" i'm enjoying living here in the US now: Fast and cheap shipping, plus deliveries on Saturdays.
No more sitting-on-the-fence with an item due to shipping charges and time it would take to ship to me in Canada. Now my disposable income can be truly FREEEEEEEE!

Other than that, cheap booze and gas is amazing. But the little snippets of racism I catch in conversations here and there sucks. It's sometimes like I've traveled back in time.

being able to walk into a walmart and buy liquor at 3am is awesome too.

canada post has been threatening to strike for months now...but my mail delivery (as well as delivery at work) is sporadic at best. might as well be on strike... seems like they deliver junk mail on one day...deliver lettermail on the next...maybe parcel deliveries if not...the next day... then take a day or two off. repeat. I'm tempted to mail myself something every day and see how it "piles" up and all gets delivered on 2 separate days.

the postal service at this point is not even worth using. and they have the nerve to ask for MORE money for services?

[pbj]

Yeah, not much racism in homogenous countries that have wiped out the natives.

[Le Chuck]

Mine arrived today.  Pretty nice, I'll hook it up this weekend and see how she looks. 

[Malenko]

Mine arrived today.  Pretty nice, I'll hook it up this weekend and see how she looks.

can you give me exact measurements?

[opt2not]

Yeah, not much racism in homogenous countries that have wiped out the natives.

Fortunately for First-Nations people, Canada gives them more than just gambling licenses.

[lilshawn]

Yeah, not much racism in homogenous countries that have wiped out the natives.

First-Nations people

we are calling them "indigenous" today. Calling them something else every time I turn around FFS.

[lilshawn]

Mine arrived today.  Pretty nice, I'll hook it up this weekend and see how she looks.

can you give me exact measurements?

http://www.planar.com/media/273473/mn-planar-lb2650w-020-0973-00b.pdf

couplea pagers in there bud with the millimeters. if'n you need inches just put the number in the old gargler...it'll tell ya.

[ed12]

ya that's them
they will look great in pga's and gt's

ed

[SlammedNiss]

you have anything to declare? yes, i picked up an ebay shipment from the store. okay, bring it in and we will have a look. easy as that. If the officer deems what you have will be resold (50 iphone cases all the same) you will likely get charged full duty... if it's obviously for personal use (2 iphone cases, keyboard, and monitor) , he will likely let you away without paying anything or just charging sales tax.

What happens if you just tell them 'no' when they ask if you have something to declare? Do they physically search your vehicles or just take you at your word.

[opt2not]

Yeah, not much racism in homogenous countries that have wiped out the natives.

First-Nations people

we are calling them "indigenous" today. Calling them something else every time I turn around FFS.

Not sure what area you're from, but out in BC the "indigenous" people I know even call themselves First-Nations. My cousin's girlfriend and mother of his child is of the Semiahmoo People, and they even call their political party Semiahmoo First Nations.

I have a couple buddies from the Squamish Nation (from the area around Whistler BC), and Haida Gwaii from Vancouver Island. Haida Gwaii's are awesome, they're the ones with the incredibly large beautiful totem poles they craft by hand. If you ever go to Vancouver BC, check out Granville Island (touristy, artsy area). You'll most likely get to see a group of Haida Gwaii people carving large peices of wood art for the tourists.

[ed12]

when asked at the border "what do u have to declare" if u say no ,  and they "think" u are not telling the truth
u get a full search..... simple sweet... if they find anything that u should have declared ? the fines start right there and then
and go up in price.  about that simple
>What happens if you just tell them 'no' when they ask if you have something to declare? Do they physically search your vehicles or just take you at your word. <

Mohawk here thank-you very much.
up here the proper term is "FIRST NATION PEOPLE"

ed

[Malenko]

http://www.planar.com/media/273473/mn-planar-lb2650w-020-0973-00b.pdf

couplea pagers in there bud with the millimeters. if'n you need inches just put the number in the old gargler...it'll tell ya.

Awesome, thanks. Now how easy are the brackets to remove?

[Le Chuck]

Mine only came with 3 brackets, rather than the five shown in lilshawn's link but it's right on the money.  Brackets looked bolt on to me, I'll confirm tonight. 

[Le Chuck]

I'll go ahead and fire it up and get some pics from different angles as well this evening

[pbj]

I'll go ahead and fire it up and get some pics from different angles as well this evening

Finally.  Damn.

[Guywiththegun]

Mine's still MIA despite still showing an estimated delivery of yesterday. Hopefully it shows up today.

[lilshawn]

up here the proper term is "FIRST NATION PEOPLE"

there was recently a big schmolze about missing/murdered first nations women in the media here and an inquiry was to be raised by the government regarding this investigation as to what happened to them and/or why they seemed to have given up on investigating their disappearance or murder...

the word of choice for these people by the media was "indigenous women." and/or "Aboriginal women" which I felt was kind of odd since we have basically settled on calling them "First Nations" for quite some time now.

Can't really call them "Indians" because they aren't from India...
Can't really call them "Native" because they may not be from around here...
Can't really call them "Metis" because they are not all from that band...
I personally think we can't really call them "First Nations" because maybe they weren't first...

Perhaps "Pre-european-settlers-people" I feel is more accurate.

What happens if you just tell them 'no' when they ask if you have something to declare? Do they physically search your vehicles or just take you at your word.

absolutely. If you left for a few minutes, came back and you have nothing to declare and didn't go down for anything...you'll get the fine tooth comb. they'll spend as much time as they feel necessary (hours) to pull the seats out of your car, pull up your carpet, look under your hood, dump out your glove box, pull speakers out of your speaker boxes, stick a borescope in your gas tank...literally leave the pile of your stuff and parts beside your car for you to put back together for wasting their time. Lord help you if you ever repaired a rusty door with a piece of sheet metal or replaced a fender and the panel's inside color doesn't match...if a borescope camera can't go in there, it's coming off.

they can be super ---Deutsche Frankfurters--- if they want to. Best bet is to just be honest and upfront with them all the time. Besides, if you go down all the time (they absolutely keep track of who you are and what you do when you go down...it's all in their computer there) anything out of the norm is cause for concern to them.

[vwalbridge]

This is a bazaar thread.

[opt2not]

up here the proper term is "FIRST NATION PEOPLE"

there was recently a big schmolze about missing/murdered first nations women in the media here and an inquiry was to be raised by the government regarding this investigation as to what happened to them and/or why they seemed to have given up on investigating their disappearance or murder...

the word of choice for these people by the media was "indigenous women." and/or "Aboriginal women" which I felt was kind of odd since we have basically settled on calling them "First Nations" for quite some time now.

Can't really call them "Indians" because they aren't from India...
Can't really call them "Native" because they may not be from around here...
Can't really call them "Metis" because they are not all from that band...
I personally think we can't really call them "First Nations" because maybe they weren't first...

I take it you don't know any First Nation people, or much about the history? The media is written by the white man, don't believe the hype.
Ask any First Nation person what term they'd prefer. bet you they say First Nation.
Until there is proof they weren't the First civilized Nation to occupy this land, i think its safe to call them that.

[ed12]

yes first nation (people) as a group
the reason for this is easy >for white people to understand<
there is simply to many tribes. so white man as they call us grouped the people into a single
category
ˈkadəˌɡôrē/
noun
noun: category; plural noun: categories

    1.
    a class or division of people or things regarded as having particular shared characteristics.

ed

[8BitMonk]

Ok, this has gone way OT. Kind of annoying when you have an alert setup to come back to the thread to see a post about the actual topic.

[lilshawn]

Ok, this has gone way OT. Kind of annoying when you have an alert setup to come back to the thread to see a post about the actual topic.

okay one more then i'm done. 

I take it you don't know any First Nation people, or much about the history? The media is written by the white man, don't believe the hype.
Ask any First Nation person what term they'd prefer. bet you they say First Nation.
Until there is proof they weren't the First civilized Nation to occupy this land, i think its safe to call them that.

Actually quite a few. Lots of them prefer to be called just straight "Indian" saying that the name "first nation" feels derogatory to them. (being that it is assigned to them by the government) While others prefer to be called "First Nation" or as far as "First Nation Indian" while still others prefer to be called by their band heritage (Blood Tribe, Metis, Enoch, Chipewyan, Atikameg, Cree) Indian.

It's hard to please everyone so we go with the most politically correct. (which happens to constantly change.)

[opt2not]

Ok, this has gone way OT. Kind of annoying when you have an alert setup to come back to the thread to see a post about the actual topic.

Ok sorry, I'll stop. This conversation has gone full retard anyways.  Carry on.

[Le Chuck]

I'll go ahead and fire it up and get some pics from different angles as well this evening

Finally.  Damn.

Worse than my wife you are.

Pics are attached.  Viewing angles are solid.  Turns out I did get all five brackets - which are attached by threaded post and nuts.  Posts are integrated into the frame so either chop them or leave them.  Mine does have some minor scratches, only one small line shows when on and only then on a static image.  Looked great displaying videos.  Colors are okay, there are menu settings but I didn't mess with them yet so might be able to make it a bit richer.  All in all, a solid purchase.  I'm happy, it's a damn good size, and it'll look great in a cocktail once I get around to building the cocktail for it. 

[yotsuya]

Wait, is it 4:3 or widescreen?

[lilshawn]

1920x1200 would be 16:10.

[Slippyblade]

Awesome choice of demo video.

[Le Chuck]

Wait, is it 4:3 or widescreen?

1920x1200 would be 16:10.

What he said.  I like 16:10, you can get away with fullscreen on 95% of stuff without it being noticeably stretched.  Its a nice bit of real-estate that I look forward to shmuping on. 

Awesome choice of demo video.

Just won an Emmy!

[ed12]

nice unit

ed

[Guywiththegun]

I couldn't be happier. Can't see any scratches (knock on wood) or dead pixels (double knock on wood) or anything like that. I did have a slight panic attack when I noticed icons and text was kind of skittish and blurry. It was almost nauseating to read anything. Then I went to display settings and saw that I was still in 1920x1080 

Changing it to 1920x1200 made everything crystal clear. Colors seem very bright. Games look amazing! The 22" was just ok with 19" 4:3 area, but a 23" 4:3 area and now I'm playing arcade games! Super psyched that I bit on this. If anyone's on the fence, I highly recommend.

Now to shut it down and take it all apart so I can finish the cab ::sigh::

[yotsuya]

1920x1200 would be 16:10.

In metric or Imperial measurements?

I don't know why I thought this was for a 4:3 monitor. But it's wide, so I'm out. Lates!

[yotsuya]

I couldn't be happier. Can't see any scratches (knock on wood) or dead pixels (double knock on wood) or anything like that. I did have a slight panic attack when I noticed icons and text was kind of skittish and blurry. It was almost nauseating to read anything. Then I went to display settings and saw that I was still in 1920x1080 

Changing it to 1920x1200 made everything crystal clear. Colors seem very bright. Games look amazing! The 22" was just ok with 19" 4:3 area, but a 23" 4:3 area and now I'm playing arcade games! Super psyched that I bit on this. If anyone's on the fence, I highly recommend.

Now to shut it down and take it all apart so I can finish the cab ::sigh::

See,  now THAT'S a review!

[Le Chuck]

1920x1200 would be 16:10.

In metric or Imperial measurements?

I don't know why I thought this was for a 4:3 monitor. But it's wide, so I'm out. Lates!

It's only "wide" if you stretch.  If you maintain original aspect its a 23" instead of a 26".  Not shabby at all, and given the form factor it's too easy to mask off the unused portion with your bezel.  Toss a SLG on and you've got yourself a pretty tasty little flatscreen option. 

[yotsuya]

1920x1200 would be 16:10.

In metric or Imperial measurements?

I don't know why I thought this was for a 4:3 monitor. But it's wide, so I'm out. Lates!

It's only "wide" if you stretch.  If you maintain original aspect its a 23" instead of a 26".  Not shabby at all, and given the form factor it's too easy to mask off the unused portion with your bezel.  Toss a SLG on and you've got yourself a pretty tasty little flatscreen option.

Yeah, sounds good.  Keep us updated.

[yotsuya]

Eek, double post. Buy a KADE!

[JDFan]

Eek, double post. Buy a KADE!

Are they still selling them ?? Been trying to get to the store for several days and nothing comes up - figured they might be having a hard time getting any stock since everywhere seems to be about out of the minimus'

Just checked the north america site again and get

" NOTICE: This domain name expired on 9/2/2016 and is pending renewal or deletion. "

[yotsuya]

Eek, double post. Buy a KADE!

Are they still selling them ?? Been trying to get to the store for several days and nothing comes up - figured they might be having a hard time getting any stock since everywhere seems to be about out of the minimus'

Just checked the north america site again and get

" NOTICE: This domain name expired on 9/2/2016 and is pending renewal or deletion. "

[yotsuya]

In all seriousness, what gives,  Scott?

[pbj]

16:10 looks legit for arcade games.  The stretching is really minor.

[PL1]

In all seriousness, what gives,  Scott?

That's a good question . . . for Kevin.

Same thing happened last year.

Looks like he forgot to set a reminder in his phone to renew the domain registration . . . again. 

Maybe he was too busy fabricating miniConsole+ cables.   


Scott

[Guywiththegun]

This thing gets HOT. The metal frame. It doesn't like burn you or anything but I had to wait a little after powering down before getting it out of the cab. Does this sound normal? I'm building wood mounts for this thing and its making me a little uneasy.

Do all unframed monitors or arcade monitors get hot like this?

[pbj]

You gonna die in a fire.

[Le Chuck]

I noticed mine gets hot as well.  The plastic components in monitor would melt long before the wood would burn so I wouldn't worry about it, just stick a fan on the back of your build for gp. 

[8BitMonk]

Looks nice, nearly identical to the 23" Apple Cinema Display I used for my Super Mario Strikers, mine runs hot too.

Here specs for comparison: http://www.everymac.com/monitors/apple/studio_cinema/specs/apple_cinema_hd_display.html

You can still find Cinema Displays relatively cheap on ebay or Craigslist, just need to make sure you have the ADC to DVI adapter with it.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-23-Cinema-HD-Display-Model-No-M8536-/262618906603?hash=item3d254e7feb:g:95QAAOSwi0RXzgOF

[wbassett]

Gotta love the purists...  Every hobby has them.

Sometimes though people just want to have fun and it doesn't matter if they use authentic widgets and screws from the era... it's all about fun.  I love you purists though, you guys do at least keep this hobby in particular from becoming a hack community... but as Sgt. Hulka said in Stripes, "Lighten up Francis"   

After all this is about having fun and people enjoying the games they played when they were a kid.  If they have an original cab or can afford vintage parts and know how to refurbish them and integrate them, that's fantastic!

I for one see no problem with a monitor like this.  The heat is a bit concerning though.  Does it have a manufacturer's plate?  Try contacting them or look for a repair shop and talk to them and see if this is a known issue.  This could be a reason why they are so inexpensive.

[Guywiththegun]

I noticed mine gets hot as well.  The plastic components in monitor would melt long before the wood would burn so I wouldn't worry about it, just stick a fan on the back of your build for gp.

Good point.

I'm in the process of planning how I want to mount this thing. The way I had my 22" setup was a board attached to the VESA mount, running across the cab to two braces. I'm seeing these holes in the back of the monitor:



Do these look like mounting holes? Looks like they are but I know nothing about the inner workings of monitors so I don't want to be poking around. Would be awesome if I could just drill 3 new holes and use what I already have setup.

[HaRuMaN]

Looks like a 200 x 100 VESA setup to me.  Those three holes directly below each of those look like mounts too

[yotsuya]

Gotta love the purists...  Every hobby has them.

Sometimes though people just want to have fun and it doesn't matter if they use authentic widgets and screws from the era... it's all about fun.  I love you purists though, you guys do at least keep this hobby in particular from becoming a hack community... but as Sgt. Hulka said in Stripes, "Lighten up Francis"   

After all this is about having fun and people enjoying the games they played when they were a kid.  If they have an original cab or can afford vintage parts and know how to refurbish them and integrate them, that's fantastic!

I for one see no problem with a monitor like this.  The heat is a bit concerning though.  Does it have a manufacturer's plate?  Try contacting them or look for a repair shop and talk to them and see if this is a known issue.  This could be a reason why they are so inexpensive.

Thank you for telling us how to enjoy our hobby. You must be fun at parties.

[yotsuya]

Oh, and by clicking on the bunch of links, I accidentally ordered one of these monitors. So yay, I guess?

[ed12]

my touch tunes elo's do the same thing (run hot) ,  a few 2" 12volt fans takes care of that problem

ed

[vwalbridge]

Gotta love the purists...  Every hobby has them.

Sometimes though people just want to have fun and it doesn't matter if they use authentic widgets and screws from the era... it's all about fun.  I love you purists though, you guys do at least keep this hobby in particular from becoming a hack community... but as Sgt. Hulka said in Stripes, "Lighten up Francis"   

After all this is about having fun and people enjoying the games they played when they were a kid.  If they have an original cab or can afford vintage parts and know how to refurbish them and integrate them, that's fantastic!

I for one see no problem with a monitor like this.  The heat is a bit concerning though.  Does it have a manufacturer's plate?  Try contacting them or look for a repair shop and talk to them and see if this is a known issue.  This could be a reason why they are so inexpensive.

Thank you for telling us how to enjoy our hobby. You must be fun at parties.

I like yots.

[markc74]

You gonna die in a fire.

[wbassett]

lol ok...  noted.  Purists complaining that someone is telling them how to do things 

If that's what you like and makes things fun for you then great.  The point is others still have fun and have great looking cabs that aren't 'authentic' but still give them the same feel and fun... to them. 

Again my concern is the heating problem reported about this monitor.  If it's normal and just needs a fan then this sounds like a nice option.

[wbassett]

Looks like the guy still has 4 left, I think I might snag one of these.

[Guywiththegun]

Looks like a 200 x 100 VESA setup to me.  Those three holes directly below each of those look like mounts too

Interesting. I wouldn't even know where to start with those big bottom holes. How would you secure/mount to those?

[vwalbridge]

Looks like a 200 x 100 VESA setup to me.  Those three holes directly below each of those look like mounts too

Interesting. I wouldn't even know where to start with those big bottom holes. How would you secure/mount to those?

Not 100% sure about those 3 mounting holes.  But if you look at the PDF of the manual, on page 5, it looks like Planar intended for only the outside mounting brackets to be used.

[yotsuya]

Yeah,  well if you consider me a purist, so be it. I don't consider it a pejorative.

[Malenko]

Purists complaining that someone is telling them how to do things 

No one has said anything about these monitors in a "purist light". Just mentioning image stretch and it not being so bad in 16:10 . I dont consider making people aware of the aspect ratio acting like a purist, it's more akin to someone coming in here and trashing the monitor cause its LCD not a CRT but that didnt happen.

[pbj]

Apparently there's a lot of invisible arguments going on around here lately.

[Le Chuck]

I'd like to be invisible.  I'd use my special power to fart loudly near people that sit on the same side of the booth in restaurants. 

[pbj]

After I got tired of the locker rooms, I'd probably use that ability to shoplift beef jerky.

[vwalbridge]

Apparently there's a lot of invisible arguments going on around here lately.

Apparently there are arguments of invisible arguments going on too.

[Le Chuck]

Shits overpriced.  10/10 would theive.

[yotsuya]

I'd like to be invisible.  I'd use my special power to fart loudly near people that sit on the same side of the booth in restaurants.

Just nut up bro and let them rip when you gotta. Make America great again.

[wp34]

Apparently there's a lot of invisible arguments going on around here lately.

I'd rep you if I could.   

[yotsuya]

Apparently there's a lot of invisible arguments going on around here lately.

They fit in great with the invisible restorations and undisclosed full-size builds being not posted.

[ed12]

well mine are in
the first one out of the gate , running on pga golf looks great. will post pictures as soon as I mount it
not as high as I would like, but is but on that matter.
for the cost u cannot beat them

ed

[pcss911]

Do we know what type of panel this is?   (PVA, TN, IPS, etc)?   The user guide doesn't specify.  On an all-black screen, is there a "glow"?   On 4:3 games, where the sides will likely be black, many otherwise good IPS panels have that annoying (and to me, distracting) glow...

[ed12]

no side glow
and they do run hot
will need a few fans
pictures are coming of pga running

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[pcss911]

Thanks for the quick feedback.  As for the heat, what specifically do you find to be a proper solution in terms of fans?  (type and placement of fan(s), any airflow at all, or definitely highest possible airflow with a strong wind aimed directly at the metal frame, etc)   Or, do you feel it could also remain perfectly usable, for hours at a time, with no fans, knowing that although there will be heat, there would not be enough to be any cause of concern for safety?  For example, if mounting with wood, would the wood truly cook without multiple strong fans?   As encouraged as I thought I was about this panel, maybe dealing with the heat isn't worth it?

[ed12]

the heat will be a problem if ran for more then 4hrs
2 small 2" fans pushing air down to the top inside will keep it from thermal run away
u know there running hot when the mounting brackets are hot to the touch (after a few "2" hours of run time)
so u must then get your mind wrapped around cooling it off and or face drying out caps or worse (full failure)

ed

[pcss911]

This then begs the question - what makes this panel worth the effort to mitigate this issue?  If one is perfectly happy with, for example,  a 24" 16x10 that costs, say, twice as much (new and with very good brightness, viewing angles, etc), I have to wonder if this annoying con outweighs its pros.
Is the screen quality just that unbelievably good, or is it worthwhile only in light of its lower cost?

[ed12]

the trade off is both ways
if u want right out of the box perfect ? then they are not for u.
if u can deal with a few hick up's ? then they are well worth the price
u need to pick

ed

[lilshawn]

this panel would be cold cathode illuminated. even though the name has COLD in it, they are far from it. they actually run cold cathode tubes pretty hard so they tend to throw a lot of heat.

I mounted a similar panel  i scabbed from a pokertek table in a Golden Tee Cabinet a while back. I just used a chunk of angle bracket to mount a computer fan (90mm) blowing up the back of the monitor from the bottom. not a problem with it yet.

I this type of monitor was designed with being upright in the open air using convection currents to cool it or in an enclosure with a fan.

[ed12]

ya after 24hrs of solid run time
thermo seems to have evened out
not as hot to the touch etc etc
still will be putting a few fans in, because of the fact that the brightness will need to be high
hence more heat
besides that well worth it so far

ed

[ed12]

here is the finished pga with this monitor

ed

[lilshawn]

not too bad a fit.

take the glass out, mask the glass where the monitor is and spray it black on the rear side. nobody will know.

[yotsuya]

I ended up selling mine for what I paid for it.

[ed12]

ya I thought about painting the borders in. but the owner said no
so no it is

ed

[lilshawn]

 

I does what they tells me.

[ed12]

I think on the gt golf I will do the paint trick though. just to piss him off

ed

[ed12]

the thing I am going to like about the gt6 is it fits into a h5 cab "edge to edge"
so I used the vesa mounts to do it
thank you dynamo
the pga's I had to cut and build wood prop mounts (which I do not like the idea off)
reason is the person moving these things thinks he is moving a battle ship (true)

ed

[JDebler]

Checking in on this...new guy here and doing my first mame arcade cabinet build but the project is halted not knowing the size of the monitor I can use.

Are there any more updates on the heat and performance for this panel?

Also...are you guys mounting them horizontally or vertically?

[Guywiththegun]

I couldn't be happier with it. I'm mounting it horizontally with wood. I have it leaning on two brackets and re-enforced with wood going across the cab, using the brackets on the monitor. Heat was a little concerning at first. I had glass leaning on it and the glass itself would get pretty hot after 30 minutes or so. I mounted two big (silent) computer fans behind it (blowing upward at an angle towards the back). No issues with heat since.

If this is still available I'd grab it. Just get the fans. I payed like $15 for them and just mounted them quickly with a strip of wood and L brackets. I wired them directly to 12v lines of some molex adapters I'm using for LEDs. Easy fix.

[Jakobud]

I have a 23.1" 4x3 LCD that's been sitting in my closet a few years. Been waiting to build a Mame cabinet with it. But I'm not sure if maybe I should just sell it to someone on byoac or not...

[Thormus]

I just purchased one. Hoping for the best. Going to be putting this into a converted 4 player stand up cabinet.