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Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« on: March 21, 2015, 07:08:44 pm »
I figured I'm far enough along with this project to begin sharing it. I've got the cabinet all cleaned up, stripped, primered, sanded, painted, sanded again and the full artwork package installed. The cabinet was originally a War: Final Assault that I picked up a few years ago for $150. No great loss. I originally used black t-molding but decided to change it to white. I think the white makes it look a LOT better. I also changed my mind on the CPO. I wanted something that better matches the theme of the rest of the art, so you can see how much better the new CPO design is over the original one I had.

I'll be using a PS4 to run the game and I have already successfully hacked the controller that came with the system. I just need to get another one and hack it too. So with the control interface figured out, it just boiled down to the monitor interface. I'll be using a 24.8" Tri-mode Makvision like I used in my MK9 and Injustice cabs so they all match. The PS4 only outputs HDMI, so I will be using an HDMI to VGA converter, running at 800x600 to the Makvision and it should work just fine. I may have to use 640x480, but that will remain to be seen.

That's about it for now. Thanks for reading and opinions are welcome! Here are some pics (the last 5 pics are how the machine sits currently)...











































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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #1 on: March 21, 2015, 07:17:50 pm »
Marquee and bezel plexiglass retainers should be white.

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #2 on: March 21, 2015, 07:21:23 pm »
Marquee and bezel plexiglass retainers should be white.

Is that your way of saying there's too much white? lol.
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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #3 on: March 21, 2015, 07:42:22 pm »
Love the simple black and white...classy.

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #4 on: March 21, 2015, 07:47:57 pm »
Marquee and bezel plexiglass retainers should be white.

Gonna agree with PBJ on this one.

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #5 on: March 21, 2015, 11:21:54 pm »
Two PS4 controllers successfully hacked, fully tested and ready to interface with some buttons and joysticks. Total cost of hacking both controllers....$60. One controller came with the PS4 system. Had to buy a second one for Player 2. Already had all the other supplies...

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #6 on: March 21, 2015, 11:28:47 pm »
Looks good. Wouldn't it be better to use a PC for the guts?

I'd expect the PC version of MK10 to be better than the PS4 version. Higher resolution, smoother, and possibly lower latency.

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #7 on: March 21, 2015, 11:40:48 pm »
Looks good. Wouldn't it be better to use a PC for the guts?

I'd expect the PC version of MK10 to be better than the PS4 version. Higher resolution, smoother, and possibly lower latency.

Thanks. Quite possibly, but is would have cost me the same if not more to build a PC that can handle MKX at it's peak as it would be to just use a PS4. Plus, there is the online community to consider. I could use Steam for the PC version, but all the higher caliber players and my friends are all going to be using a PS4.
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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2015, 12:50:34 am »
You're right about the online stuff of course. Based on what I've seen of Street Fighter 4, though, these games look pretty awesome at 3840x2160 and at 2560x1440 @ 144hz. There's also the benefit of being able to use the cabinet as a straight up MAME box on top of playing MK10.

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #9 on: March 22, 2015, 02:23:48 pm »
I successfully interfaced the PS4 with an original arcade monitor just now. The image looks pretty damn awesome in person! The pictures are a poor representation. One step closer to completion of the project!...



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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2015, 04:13:24 am »
Got the machine fully wired up (except for the control panel, that's going to be tomorrow) and working great. I installed a set of 2.1 computer speakers with a subwoofer. I cut the wires to the speakers that came with the set and threw the speakers away. I spliced their wires in with the cabinet's existing speakers because they are so much better and ran the volume control to behind the coin door.

Got everything mounted and secured down. I am using an original arcade power supply to power the coin door lights and the VGA to CGA converter. I installed a power strip to power the PS4, the audio system and the HDMI to VGA converter. I also decided to install a 25" Wells Gardner K7400 monitor instead of the 24.8" Makvision that I was planning on using because since I'm using CGA instead of VGA to run to the monitor, I can use a full 25" monitor instead of the 24.8" one. Trust me, it's a big difference.

I'm also utilizing the cabinet's original wiring to supply voltage to the monitor, power supply and and power strip. The only thing I had to splice into the original cabinet wiring was the power strip. I simply used a spare 115vac connection.

Anyway, here are the pics. Thanks for looking and stay tuned for the control panel build tomorrow and the finalization of the machine!...











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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2015, 05:18:54 am »
Great project

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2015, 07:07:54 am »
Nice looking cab.
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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #13 on: March 23, 2015, 08:33:20 am »
The control panel and white t-molding are both solid choices.  Looks great!

Those little Portta video converters work surprisingly well.  I've used their component>HDMI converter and found it performed reliably with good quality.  What's the other converter you're using to get the VGA signal to the monitor? 

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #14 on: March 23, 2015, 10:18:01 am »
How are you going to get the PS4 to play friendly with a 4:3 screen?

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #15 on: March 23, 2015, 10:36:35 am »
Yeah I'm not sure how that's going to work. The PC version of Mortal Kombat 9 didn't even run at 4:3 resolutions. It letterboxed the image.

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #16 on: March 23, 2015, 12:45:36 pm »
Nice Work!!

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #17 on: March 23, 2015, 12:54:41 pm »
Regarding the 4:3 issue, I don't have a game at the moment, but I did test a native 16:9 Blu Ray and is displays at full screen, non-letterboxed 4:3, so I can only assume MKX will do the same. If so, and the lag is negligible, then I'm in business! I'll go get a PS4 game to test and see for sure.
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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #18 on: March 23, 2015, 12:56:39 pm »
The control panel and white t-molding are both solid choices.  Looks great!

Those little Portta video converters work surprisingly well.  I've used their component>HDMI converter and found it performed reliably with good quality.  What's the other converter you're using to get the VGA signal to the monitor?

It's a VGA to CGA converter.
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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #19 on: March 23, 2015, 09:34:50 pm »
Regarding the 4:3 issue, I don't have a game at the moment, but I did test a native 16:9 Blu Ray and is displays at full screen, non-letterboxed 4:3, so I can only assume MKX will do the same. If so, and the lag is negligible, then I'm in business! I'll go get a PS4 game to test and see for sure.

That's just cropping the sides of the screen, then. Not sure how well that's going to work for a video game.

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #20 on: March 23, 2015, 11:51:46 pm »
The control panel build is complete! Still need to wire it all up, but the construction and assembly is done. I had to modify the CPO to say "Start/Options" because it turns out that I will need an "Options" button because that took the place of the "Start" button, so as you can see from the first two pictures, I soldered some wires to the appropriate connections and tested it out. It's good to go. I'll be running it to the Start/Options button. I can also hear some of you saying "Wow, that's a lot of white." True, but I bought those buttons/sticks when I was still planning on using the original fan art CPO of Smoke. I'll change them out to a different color if there's too much negative feedback on them.

Also, I bought "MLB 2014" to test out the controls when I get them wired up but I went ahead and put the disc in the PS4 to see if it displayed in 4:3 without being cut off or display in letterbox. Success! The game plays full screen with no cropping and looks great! I'll post some pics of that later, so it's VERY hopeful that MKX will display the same. Worst case scenario, I'll change the monitor to an LCD if MKX ends up not being viable with a CRT.



























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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
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Good grief that thing is burtiful........... :cheers: :cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
   

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #24 on: March 24, 2015, 08:51:20 am »
too monochrome for my tastes but I can still appreciate it
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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #25 on: March 24, 2015, 05:33:35 pm »
Yeah I'm not sure how that's going to work. The PC version of Mortal Kombat 9 didn't even run at 4:3 resolutions. It letterboxed the image.

MLB The Show 2014 displaying in 4:3 full screen, non-letterbox with no cropping. The image is very crisp and clear with no issues. Still may end up going the LCD route in the end, but for now, this looks pretty damn good...(make sure to watch in HD)...

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« Reply #26 on: March 24, 2015, 05:39:15 pm »
Yeah you can't beat that.......nice job...
   

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« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2015, 05:42:05 pm »
Yeah you can't beat that.......nice job...

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #28 on: March 24, 2015, 11:59:01 pm »
Well, the project is 100% complete. Finished up the final touches tonight and added the machine to my own "Goro's Lair." I'm patiently waiting for April 14th (release date for the game). Until then, here are pictures and a video. Overall, I'm pleased with how the project turned out...



























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« Reply #29 on: March 25, 2015, 12:03:29 am »
how do you score these empty cabs?
   

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« Reply #30 on: March 25, 2015, 12:24:25 am »
how do you score these empty cabs?

Actually, the cabinet I used for this project was a fully populated and working War: Final Assault. I only paid $150 for it. I gutted it and sold off the boards for a decent profit. I get them cabinets locally from a warehouse. The owner used to work with one of my father's best friends, so I kind of have a good "in" with the guy and he gives me good deals from time to time.
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« Reply #31 on: March 25, 2015, 12:54:23 am »
Nice resource to have...nice add to your KA collection
   

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #32 on: March 25, 2015, 06:16:26 am »
Marquee retainers should be white
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« Reply #33 on: March 25, 2015, 05:12:49 pm »
Dude that came out great! It looks like the PS4 is displaying MK 9 in 4:3 just fine.  God I love CRT screens.

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« Reply #34 on: March 25, 2015, 05:30:05 pm »
Dude that came out great! It looks like the PS4 is displaying MK 9 in 4:3 just fine.  God I love CRT screens.

I assume you mean MKX. :)

Actually, yes. The image is great!....but....I've decided I'll be using an LCD/LED. While the image is great for the CRT, the deciding factor will be that the game icons are so small (because they are meant for HD), you really can't read them at all at 480p on a CRT. I was able to get away with using a CRT for my MK9 and Injustice projects because the PS3 outputs Component video at 1080p that the Gnobes converter can convert to VGA without quality loss. The image may only be 480p, but I swear it still looks like 1080p. There is no visible quality loss on the MK9 and Injustice monitors.

The MKX is a different story because it's outputting HDMI only, which is digital and has to be converted to analog, via a converter, then to CGA via another converter and the quality loss is too great. Again, the image looks crisp and clear, but the little details are lost. Stay tuned for a monitor swap! I promise to make it look professional.
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« Reply #35 on: March 25, 2015, 09:11:51 pm »
It looks like a lot of the screen is missing due to 4:3, but some of it is compensated for by overscan.

This is what MK9 looks like on a 16:9 display:



The energy bars are pretty cut off. It still doesn't look terrible, but if I were doing it, I'd use a 16:9 screen for MK9/10.
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« Reply #36 on: March 25, 2015, 10:17:12 pm »
Excellent work! Thats one hell of a collection.  :applaud:

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« Reply #37 on: March 25, 2015, 10:40:37 pm »
Excellent work! Thats one hell of a collection.  :applaud:

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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #38 on: March 25, 2015, 11:30:19 pm »
The decision has been made. I found what I consider a great monitor. It's a 27" LED Acer computer monitor. It has an HDMI input so I can connect it directly to the PS4. I got it mounted and installed in the machine with relative ease. I needed to have it flush up against the glass, which required modifying the original bezel rests on the sides of the cabinet because the monitor is 24.5" wide and the cabinet is 25" side. I couldn't fit the monitor between them. It's no big deal though. It turned out great.

I also was able to perform some surgery on a spare bezel along with the original CRT bezel that was on the machine to make a custom bezel for the new LED monitor. It looks really clean and has a 'factory' feel to it since it's the original bezel material/plastic.

Overall, I am much more happy with the LED monitor versus the CRT. I just couldn't make the CRT work and be happy with it. Having the signal from the PS4 go through TWO converters and then to lower the intended resolution was just too much. Anyway, here are some pics. Opinions are always welcome!





































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Re: Mortal Kombat X Arcade Machine
« Reply #39 on: March 26, 2015, 12:09:16 am »
Image is better, it was too vertically stretched with the crt.

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