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Opinions Please
« on: October 27, 2014, 03:32:50 pm »
Hi Guys,

I'm building my own Retrocade using the MikeKim's artwork from the HyperSpin forums.

I love the look, as is, but I also love the idea of LED buttons... I just can't tell if they would look good/terrible on this build:



Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2014, 04:34:05 pm »
The button layout doesn't make sense to me, you would have to cock your wrist to the right to use it

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2014, 04:57:13 pm »
Thanks for the feedback, LightningBolt, but that wasn't the question -- and this layout is from SlagCoin's archive.

Any feedback about using LED buttons with the artwork?

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2014, 05:09:50 pm »
After watching Nepsath create the Two Headed beast, I came up with this:



It pales in comparison and doesn't light up yet. But one day I will finish it.

Do whatever you want.  LEDs on that are not going to look any better or worse than the white buttons do.  I would suggest translucent joystick washers if you can find them. 

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2014, 08:51:23 pm »
Lit buttons on such a small CP will be kind overwhelming IMO.  Too much going on in a small space - juice just isn't worth the squeeze for a bartop I'd say.

But don't let that stop you, if you're dream is glowy buttons then glow'em up man. 

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2014, 08:57:39 pm »
The button layout doesn't make sense to me, you would have to cock your wrist to the right to use it

That curved layout is actually fine. If they were straight and diagonal, that's when wrist cocking would occur.
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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2014, 09:23:37 pm »
Thanks guys!

I tend to agree about the LED buttons. I think they can look great on a white bartop... but with the size and the artwork here, I think it's just too much

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2014, 10:07:04 pm »
You can change your buttons and you can change your mind.  But you can't change your button's mind.

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2014, 11:31:29 am »

I have to agree LED button can be rather overwhelming, I would think on a small bartop even more so. 

If you did want to create some LED effect there could be some more subtle options out there for you.  I know on build here lit up standard button so the gap around the button glowed.  I can try to find the thread if someone else doesn't know where it is.  Another option might be to put a much duller/less powered LED in.  Most buttons I've seen just crush the LED output, a subtle glow might work better in this case if you wanted some lighting.

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2014, 11:52:59 am »
I know on build here lit up standard button so the gap around the button glowed.  I can try to find the thread if someone else doesn't know where it is.
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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #10 on: October 28, 2014, 11:55:58 am »
I would say no to the led buttons.   They are good within reason like having 2 on the Star Wars trilogy CP that light up periodically.  But having 12+ buttons lit up constantly will be annoying.  Plus having that and your marquee that close...Trust me.  The marquee alone is annoying enough.  I find myself turning off my marquee most of the time I am playing.

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #11 on: October 28, 2014, 12:24:52 pm »
Hi Guys,

Any opinions would be greatly appreciated!

That looks too small for 2 players.

You can keep your second stick for Robotron.  I'd drop the 6 buttons in favor of the 4 Neo Geo buttons.  I have a purple coin button that gets bumped periodically.  I'd be reluctant to put the power on the front. 

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #12 on: October 28, 2014, 01:28:06 pm »
I think LED buttons are neat, but I wouldnt want them on my cab(s). That being said, I think LED buttons might be a bit much on such a small cab with that art.   No harm in wiring up 2 white LEDs for just the start buttons or something.
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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #13 on: October 28, 2014, 01:31:40 pm »
After watching Nepsath create the Two Headed beast...

Close Bob, no Seger.

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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #14 on: October 28, 2014, 01:43:55 pm »
I know on build here lit up standard button so the gap around the button glowed.  I can try to find the thread if someone else doesn't know where it is.
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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #15 on: October 28, 2014, 01:49:02 pm »
I like lighted pushbuttons, especially when programmed to light up only the buttons you need for the selected game, but to each his own.
On a side note, a not-related-to-topic question: How wide is that control panel?

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« Reply #16 on: October 28, 2014, 01:50:02 pm »
After watching Nepsath create the Two Headed beast...

Close Bob, no Seger.

Yeah, man, leave Nap alone!  >:D
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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #17 on: October 28, 2014, 02:06:57 pm »
After watching Nepsath create the Two Headed beast...

Close Bob, no Seger.

Two-Headed Beast

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« Reply #19 on: October 28, 2014, 02:57:04 pm »
After watching Nepsath create the Two Headed beast...

Close Bob, no Seger.

Two-Headed Beast

F for eFfort...

Spelling your name wrong makes it difficult to find you in a search.   

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« Reply #20 on: October 28, 2014, 03:03:17 pm »
Wasn't it you that wanted an email notification every time someone mentioned your name? I want it too. ;D

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« Reply #21 on: October 28, 2014, 03:42:03 pm »
Wasn't it you that wanted an email notification every time someone mentioned your name? I want it too. ;D

I did mention that.  For the Beetlejuice effect

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« Reply #22 on: October 28, 2014, 06:06:48 pm »
Wasn't it you that wanted an email notification every time someone mentioned your name?

If there was an alert for that, Jennifer would get an email every time she posts.

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« Reply #23 on: October 28, 2014, 06:08:28 pm »
Kaneda.... Kaneda... Kaneda...
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« Reply #24 on: October 28, 2014, 06:10:44 pm »
Kaneda.... Kaneda... Kaneda...

NO!!!NO!!!NO!!!

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« Reply #25 on: October 28, 2014, 06:17:07 pm »
For that, you need the Kaneda-signal

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For that, you need the Kaneda-signal

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« Reply #27 on: October 28, 2014, 06:26:14 pm »

Right back at ya!


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Re: Opinions Please
« Reply #28 on: October 28, 2014, 08:54:55 pm »
18.5" wide

I love the look with power on the front

Worst case, I'll fill it in with Bondo and replace the artwork on the CP

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« Reply #29 on: October 28, 2014, 08:58:23 pm »
I LOVE those partially illuminated buttons...

Still nowhere to buy them, right? I'd pay a pretty penny.

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« Reply #30 on: October 28, 2014, 09:04:19 pm »
I don't like the woodgrain of the cut ends of wood panels...  Painting it black doesn't help hide the grain.  T-molding would look much better.

The Shadows in your marquee don't look good either.   

Everything else looks good.... You want to illuminate the buttons, check out the milky white IL buttons that Paradisearcadeshop sells... or used to sell...

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« Reply #31 on: October 28, 2014, 09:11:02 pm »
Agreed. Mine uses T-Molding.

Thoughts on black vs white?

Agreed about marquee too. Will play w LED and cathode to see which looks best, as well as placement

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« Reply #32 on: October 28, 2014, 09:12:06 pm »
I'm the picture, MikeKim used tape instead of t molding

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« Reply #33 on: October 28, 2014, 09:14:41 pm »
I don't like the woodgrain of the cut ends of wood panels...  Painting it black doesn't help hide the grain.  T-molding would look much better.

The Shadows in your marquee don't look good either.   

Everything else looks good.... You want to illuminate the buttons, check out the milky white IL buttons that Paradisearcadeshop sells... or used to sell...

Agreed on the end panels.
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« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2014, 09:25:29 pm »
See previous response...  :)

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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2014, 10:02:51 pm »
I LOVE those partially illuminated buttons...

Still nowhere to buy them, right? I'd pay a pretty penny.

Do you mean these ones with the black centre and the clear outer ring? http://www.paradisearcadeshop.com/il-translucent-buttons/898-clear-il-translucent-convex-pushbutton-psl-l-cv-black-plunger.html

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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2014, 10:06:01 pm »
Oh sweet!!

Any links to them in a build, lit up?

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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2014, 10:24:15 pm »
Oh sweet!!

Any links to them in a build, lit up?
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2014, 10:25:40 pm »
Thanks!

Don't see them available with white buttons... How hard would it be to swap out the plunger?

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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2014, 10:42:13 pm »
Thanks!

Don't see them available with white buttons... How hard would it be to swap out the plunger?
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