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Author Topic: Gulp. Here goes. Time to commit to: Project Legacy  (Read 16557 times)

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Re: Gulp. Here goes. Time to commit to: Project Legacy
« Reply #160 on: July 26, 2018, 10:18:12 am »
I should be focusing on the rotating monitor. Theres gonna be a lot of r&d on that, I'll bet (that is, realizing I've screwed up & starting over).

Iíve got mine up and running.  Posted a tutorial under automated projects if itís if help.  If you havenít figured out already, the minimum width of your cab will be dictated by the diagonals of the display you are using.  Wouldnít want you to start construction and have to tear things apart cause it wasnít wide enough.

Tutorial with parts and links where to buy:

[url=http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,156671.0.html]http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,156671.0.html[/URL]

Every time I see this I think I'm definitely doing this in my next cab.  It's so cool.   :cheers:

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« Reply #161 on: July 26, 2018, 04:22:26 pm »
If you havenít figured out already, the minimum width of your cab will be dictated by the diagonals of the display you are using.

Yes, I almost learned this the hard way. Had my drawings almost done, and thought I'd left lotsa room for a diagonal monitor. Then tried rotating the virtual monitor, & discovered the evil truth. Resulted in a fairly major rework.  Wouldnít want you to start construction and have to tear things apart cause it wasnít wide enough.

Tutorial with parts and links where to buy:

[url=http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,156671.0.html]http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,156671.0.html[/URL]

Thanks! I've got the ideas already worked out, but I still have time to change things if I find something better. I'll definitely be checking it out.
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« Reply #162 on: August 04, 2018, 04:08:29 pm »
Finished the 2nd mockup upside down scrotum. Attached both scrotums at the right width (2'4" apart) & placed the incomplete control panel in place. The look & feel seem pretty good.

Other than this little bit of work, its been a crazy busy week. I got nothing done on the programming/rotating monitor end of things, except to go over weissaupt's notes from his wonderful Ghost in the Machine cab.
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« Reply #163 on: August 05, 2018, 08:24:05 pm »
Project Legacy is blowing my balls away.... page 5
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« Reply #164 on: August 05, 2018, 10:32:09 pm »
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Finished the 2nd mockup upside down scrotum.

LOL... no more pseudo-scrotums!  Let's drop those nuts and make it already!  :laugh:

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« Reply #165 on: August 06, 2018, 01:33:08 pm »
Project Legacy is blowing my balls away.... page 5

I know, sigh. I've been very slow at this. From original 'hmmm...wouldn't a modern computer (which was a 486 then) be powerful enough to play just about every arcade game made?' until now, its been 11 years.

Of course, there've been some major stumbles along the way: wife died, special needs son to raise solo, got back into roller skating in a big way. My lack of knowledge/skills/courage/wood shop has been the major problem. I still don't know how I'm going to do the programming thats going to be required. I gotta figure out how to populate 2 halves of a monitor with different images (RandyT knows, I'm gonna be pestering him), how to use a 'back up monitor' to display the controls for any chosen game, & I'm still scratching my head about the programming of the rotating monitor, even though weissaupt has been very helpful. And of course I gotta figure out how to configure MAME & whatever front end I go with (I`m leaning towards hyperspin) to call up these programs when needed.

I've been so afraid of pouring a lot of money into R&D on this. I'll get it done. Its just gonna be a lotta work.

Maybe the best advice I can give to any newbie considering building a cab, it'd be to join & spend a lot of time on this forum. This project is very unlikely to be completed without the help of all the great people here.
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« Reply #166 on: August 06, 2018, 01:35:16 pm »
The best advice would be to start simple.

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« Reply #167 on: August 06, 2018, 01:45:46 pm »
The best advice would be to start simple.

Very true. But I only wanna do this once, & I only have money & space for 1 great project. So I`m going big (actually, I`m wondering if there`ll be enough money left over from this to do a virtual pinball machine using the occulus rift).
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« Reply #168 on: August 06, 2018, 02:52:26 pm »
How do you know you won't have space 16 years from now when this cab is done?

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« Reply #169 on: August 06, 2018, 05:30:19 pm »
I don't think you'll have any regrets if you simplify some things and enjoy the final product.

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« Reply #170 on: August 06, 2018, 08:15:20 pm »
How do you know you won't have space 16 years from now when this cab is done?

This is always a possibility. But I doubt it. If anything, I'll have probably sold the house & be living in a small apartment. My career/money possibilities aren't good for the distant future, either. I'm 54 now, running my own very small business, which I'm about to quit because I'm barely breaking even. Tim Hortons is looking like my great future career possibility. I wouldn't be doing this project at all if I hadn't bought 95% of the parts years ago, & still have money saved specifically for this.

And I'm sure it won't take me longer than 15 years to complete.
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« Reply #171 on: August 06, 2018, 08:21:35 pm »
I don't think you'll have any regrets if you simplify some things and enjoy the final product.

I have compromised on some early ideas, but there're some things I simply must have. I think I've given up on the detachable periscope idea, & the glowing silicone brain under the glass dome I was gonna put on top of the machine (I was imagining something like the brain creatures from 'the gamesters of triskelion'; it would have been awesome eye candy) has been traded for the lcd marquee.

I'll enjoy the final product alright, but I'm enjoying the road there, too. I'm in no rush
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« Reply #172 on: August 24, 2018, 10:35:26 pm »
At last, another update. We used Al's homemade cnc (this guy operates at a level way above mine) to convert my google sketchup to a mockup of an 8" modular panel. This 1 could hold the track ball, or, as weissaupt suggested in his 'what I would have done different' considering his wonderful 'Ghost in the Machine' cab, a spinner panel.

Al used simple double sided tape to hold the piece in place while the machine operated. A slightly sloppy belt in the base resulted in a tiny bit of slippage in the final cut. We'll tighten up the machine for the real panel (again I'm glad we're making a mock up of cheap material).

We also made a 4" panel...I thought I took pics but I can't seem to find them  ???

In other news, my search to find another old clunker computer continues.
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« Reply #173 on: August 24, 2018, 10:54:27 pm »
Are you still doing mock ups or are you cutting the real deal?

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« Reply #174 on: August 27, 2018, 12:31:49 am »
This is mockup. I wanna mount a control or 2 to get a better feel for the final product. But I could almost use the pieces Al & I cut--they were both off less than 1/16" due to the slippage in a belt. I'm considering it.
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« Reply #175 on: August 27, 2018, 04:11:19 am »
I don't think that CNC machine is going to cut actual wood correctly if the belt is slipping when you are cutting that super thin stock. Is it a homemade machine? Those rotozips aren't designed for CNC spindle duty. You would be better off cutting your pieces manually.

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« Reply #176 on: August 28, 2018, 12:54:13 am »
Al's quite confident that he can fix the tiny bit of slippage going on. That stock is 1/2"mdf. But I'll talk to him about it. Manually is how I originally thought I'd be cutting it anyway.
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« Reply #177 on: August 28, 2018, 01:53:37 am »
Al's quite confident that he can fix the tiny bit of slippage going on. That stock is 1/2"mdf. But I'll talk to him about it.
Not sure if Al's system can generate g-code for the Trochoidal milling method, but it could help reduce cutting forces ==> less chance of belt slippage.


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« Reply #178 on: August 29, 2018, 12:01:40 am »
Thats a good idea! Those panels have to be machined to a pretty fine tolerance to fit right. That method might be the solution. Thanks PL1! I'll talk to Al about it
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« Reply #179 on: August 29, 2018, 04:22:25 am »
If an axis belt is slipping you are cutting too fast. Slow down the feed speed. If the belt slips at low speed than find a real CNC machine that uses screws or rack and pinion. Better yet, it's a freaking arcade cab. Cut it with a jigsaw and sand it to fit. You are only building one cab, not 50.

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« Reply #180 on: September 16, 2018, 12:16:41 am »
If an axis belt is slipping you are cutting too fast. Slow down the feed speed. If the belt slips at low speed than find a real CNC machine that uses screws or rack and pinion. Better yet, it's a freaking arcade cab. Cut it with a jigsaw and sand it to fit. You are only building one cab, not 50.

All very true. It's Al's work space & equipment, though, & he's convinced he can get the machine up to snuff. Also, he plain likes to play with it.  ;D
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« Reply #181 on: September 16, 2018, 12:43:49 am »
At last, an update! I've been busy with real life stuff (roller skating, working for our roller skating grand imperial poobah, getting my son settled back in school, did I say roller skating?), but finally did some work on the 8" 6 button panel.

Once again, the value of starting with a mock up is proving invaluable. We discovered that the button holes were a bit too small, despite the sketchup drawings being accurate. It turned out that Al had mismeasured the router bit in his cnc. A quick editing, & the problem is fixed. It was cool to see a gold leaf push button mounted.

On my own I'm still working on the rotating monitor design, via google sketchup for the moment. I'm concerned about the weight of the monitor on the support. When I finish some options I'll post them for your feedback.

Also, just as with Doc's Modular Mame, & Weissaupt's Ghost in the Machine, I have to pick a way to attach these individual controller panels to the box, in a way that they stay in position well despite rough handling, but can be quickly removed without tools. Doc used a peg & hole arrangement, Weissaupt used velcro. Both seem to work great, but a roller skating friend of mine offered me these powerful earth magnets, I'm considering trying them to hold down the edge of the panels closest to the player. The farther end I intend to try Doc's peg & hole setup. Of course, I'll have to consider the issues magnets bring with them...(I don't want to wipe a friend's credit cards)
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