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Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« on: December 04, 2012, 03:13:35 pm »
Hello All,

Is there an interest in pulling funds so we can win this auction?
It would be great to get this game emulated in MAME.

For more information, please follow this thread:
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,128452.msg1318349.html#msg1318349

Thanks,
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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2012, 03:21:26 pm »
I don't think it'll be a MAME-type emulation, but rather an executable that could be run from a front end.

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #2 on: December 04, 2012, 03:48:58 pm »
It runs on a PC.  It won't be emulated at full speed anytime soon, but very well could be pirated.  ;)

If Disney is letting the machines escape into the wild now, it won't be long.
It will probably be floating around on the web in the next month depending on how much protection was built in.
Since it was more a promotional display, than commercial machine to be sold to operators, I'm guessing none.

EDIT: Way to implicate the BYOAC forum in offering the seller money for a pirated copy of the game.
       
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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #3 on: December 04, 2012, 03:53:12 pm »

I will be surprised if it's a full game.  It's probably just a software mockup.

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2012, 04:24:31 pm »
@BadMouth  :)  Just to clarify, since you seemed to jump to conclusions on my discussion with the employee.  He and I talked for a while, and I only asked him if he would take pictures of the inside of the cabinet.  He volunteered that they have been getting A LOT of requests via email for copies of the game and for pictures of the inside.  I told him I was only interested in seeing the inside, because I wanted to know if the game was on disc, USB, or some other form.  Then we talked about his memory that it is on USB and dongle.  I actually never asked him to copy the game or request him to pirate it.  I did tell him that if he put some pictures up on the ebay listing it might cut down on the amount of email they are getting.  That is when he said he would ask his bosses about that.

I can totally see how you came to your conclusion, but I just want to clear the air.  I didn't request a copy of the game.  I am pursuing the game through the auction and through Disney Legal.

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2012, 04:31:32 pm »
Is it the same as the flash game on Disney's site?  It's pretty atrocious actually.

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2012, 04:32:17 pm »
I can totally see how you came to your conclusion, but I just want to clear the air.  I didn't request a copy of the game.  I am pursuing the game through the auction and through Disney Legal.

Wasn't directed at you in particular.

I just sent this to the seller.
Now just wait and see?

Hello,

I represent a small group of people on the BYOAC forums.
That have built replica's of this cabinet already.
We are just wondering if you would consider selling the ROM/SOFTWARE?
Whatever is on the computer inside the cabinet that is the game.
Privately, As not to interfere with you getting the maximum profit for the machine.

Speaking for myself here, My Son loves this movie!
And would love to be able to play this game on my already built cabinet.

Thank you so much!

I look forward to hearing from you.

Good Day.

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2012, 06:08:31 pm »
Quote
Wasn't directed at you in particular.

Yep that would be me.
So what?
Most people i know?
Do not do anything for free. He's not giving the machine away for free. That's for sure!
In fact building a MAME cabinet (BYOAC) and using Pirated roms you don't own?
Isn't supposed to take place either.
But looks like it does.

I also keep a set of v.80 roms for installation on old computers.
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« Reply #8 on: December 10, 2012, 11:14:00 pm »
That sucker just sold for 20k!

At least the shipping is free. Lol.

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #9 on: December 10, 2012, 11:58:04 pm »
Bad news on the software front.

It runs on a PC. The bios is encrypted. It boots an encrypted version of windows on one drive then loads the game from a second encrypted drive. The drives do not show up to other computers or copying equipment, it has already been tried by pros.

As soon as one of those 2 drives fail, the motherboard goes or the motherboard battery fails that game will be toast, assuming it doesn't already have a self destruct date in software.

It is relatively unlikely anyone is going to break modern encryption when the bios itself is encrypted.
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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2012, 12:29:47 am »
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2012, 12:30:24 am »
screw you Disney!

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #12 on: December 11, 2012, 09:58:49 am »

I guess I don't understand the obsession.  It's not a full game.  It's not even a full game in the movie.  All they ever show is one screen.

It doesn't look like that hard of a game for someone to write themself and add a couple of levels.  Especially if nobody cares what hardware it runs on.

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #13 on: December 11, 2012, 10:09:19 am »

I guess I don't understand the obsession.  It's not a full game.  It's not even a full game in the movie.  All they ever show is one screen.

It doesn't look like that hard of a game for someone to write themself and add a couple of levels.  Especially if nobody cares what hardware it runs on.


I'm with you. I'm more interested in indie developers that create new full arcade-style games.
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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #14 on: December 11, 2012, 10:40:05 am »
I think it's the fact that people can't have it.  If it were leaked when the movie came out, people would have added it to their cabs, got bored with it, and then forgotten about it by now.

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« Reply #15 on: December 11, 2012, 10:47:34 am »
I'm with you. I'm more interested in indie developers that create new full arcade-style games.


I'm not up on this scene.  Where do you recommend I start poking around?

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #16 on: December 11, 2012, 11:09:07 am »
I'm with you. I'm more interested in indie developers that create new full arcade-style games.


I'm not up on this scene.  Where do you recommend I start poking around?

You could make them yourself.
http://www.arcadegamestudio.com/

The creator has some other games available for download/
Click the My Games tab.
http://www.bruneras.com/index.php

I bookmarked them, but haven't tried any.
Too busy chipping away at multiple unfinished projects.  :'(

Someone should make a BYOAC themed game.   :lol
You would hunt trolls while avoiding confused noobs.
There could be a level themed for each sub-forum.

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #17 on: December 11, 2012, 11:45:55 am »
You could make them yourself.
http://www.arcadegamestudio.com/


Oh.... oh my.   My older son is a serious VP developer.  He is going to love this.  Thanks for pointing this out!   :cheers:


EDIT:  Just poked around some more.  Watched some of the demo videos.  This is, to understate it, amazing!  So cool. 
 
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« Reply #18 on: December 11, 2012, 12:52:36 pm »
I'm with you. I'm more interested in indie developers that create new full arcade-style games.


I'm not up on this scene.  Where do you recommend I start poking around?

You could make them yourself.
http://www.arcadegamestudio.com/

The creator has some other games available for download/
Click the My Games tab.
http://www.bruneras.com/index.php

I bookmarked them, but haven't tried any.
Too busy chipping away at multiple unfinished projects.  :'(

Someone should make a BYOAC themed game.   :lol
You would hunt trolls while avoiding confused noobs.
There could be a level themed for each sub-forum.

I like that idea,
And you can have some mini game content like a fighter where the character selections are Randy T, Brian and Andy.

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2012, 01:00:29 pm »

This IDE looks like someone could knock out a Fix It Felix clone pretty quickly.  And probably finish the game too.

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« Reply #20 on: December 11, 2012, 02:42:02 pm »
Do I get to be one of the boss levels?  >:D

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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #21 on: December 11, 2012, 02:46:44 pm »

You get to be Evil Otto.

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« Reply #22 on: December 11, 2012, 02:57:22 pm »
Not to get anyone super excited about home-brewed arcade games, but my nephews and I have created an arcade game for the Lime-Aid arcade machine. The game itself was completed using YoYoGames' Gamemaker last summer, and is nearly 100% complete. All the hard stuff is done, we've just been making the levels. My nephews stay with me all summer every summer [they live far away] and they have asked me to not finish it without them. The "story" is that you are a can of Lime-Aid concentrate who is not welcome in the freezer. You wage war against the contents of the freezer and fridge to earn your right to be there, facing off against your much-more-popular nemesis Lemon Aid and the final stage you battle the refridgerator itself. The gameplay is similar to space invaders except they come at you horizontally.

It is not a great game, but it's not bad either. Here's an early version screen shot.



This summer I have stepped it up a bit as my nephews are older and the gamemaker software, while excellent, has a really awkward way of doing things. I have spent the last few months learning how to use Blender to make characters and animations, soon will be delving into motion capture and am already pretty good at Unity 3d game engine with the basics. I'm working on an arcade-style game right now as a project to learn what I am doing so next summer we can create a greater game with some 3d graphics. I have some preliminary animations done for it if anyone wants to see. The premise of my test game is kind of silly, but whatever. You play as my wife Lauren in her work place which is a veterinary hospital. You run around catching escaped puppies of varying intelligence and speed, while avoiding the other employees and clientelle.

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I'll not derail this thread any longer.
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Re: Fix-It Felix, Jr. - Auction on Ebay
« Reply #23 on: December 11, 2012, 03:37:36 pm »
Several other possible characters:
PBJ spouting bile and chasing you off his lawn.   :oldman

Driverman in Hydra mode -- if you chop off one of his limbs and don't use fire to cauterize it, it grows back double.


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« Reply #24 on: December 11, 2012, 03:50:06 pm »
Do I get to be one of the boss levels?  >:D

I had you as a narrator/guide type, but it's your Forum.
It could be a twist in the plot!
(you did angle your joysticks.....
 
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Actually, I was thinking it could be titled......

BYOAC Episode 1: The Search for Pinballjim.
Maybe that should be saved for the sequel.

I picture Xaiou as a boss who is on a steam roller looking thing that has various arcade controls attached to the roller.

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« Reply #25 on: December 11, 2012, 05:01:06 pm »
Bad news on the software front.

It runs on a PC. The bios is encrypted. It boots an encrypted version of windows on one drive then loads the game from a second encrypted drive. The drives do not show up to other computers or copying equipment, it has already been tried by pros.

As soon as one of those 2 drives fail, the motherboard goes or the motherboard battery fails that game will be toast, assuming it doesn't already have a self destruct date in software.

It is relatively unlikely anyone is going to break modern encryption when the bios itself is encrypted.

Sounds like someone would be out 20k with no way to fix it if it fails. Wish I had the 20k to spend.  :dizzy:
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« Reply #26 on: December 11, 2012, 05:07:27 pm »
I picture Xaiou as a boss who is on a steam roller looking thing that has various arcade controls attached to the roller.

Special move is the Shaolin Toe Stab?

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« Reply #27 on: December 11, 2012, 05:09:25 pm »

This IDE looks like someone could knock out a Fix It Felix clone pretty quickly.  And probably finish the game too.

It is a finished game.  Play it on OSX.  Fun too. 

How long before you're an expert at this too?  Week?  Three tops?  >:D

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« Reply #28 on: December 11, 2012, 05:16:34 pm »
Maxvolume could be a character, thumb based attacks.  Superman Trackball moves are effective against him.

PL1 could be the in game help character that appears at gives you in game advice.

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« Reply #29 on: December 11, 2012, 05:28:58 pm »
Maxvolume could be a character, thumb based attacks.  Superman Trackball moves are effective against him.

PL1 could be the in game help character that appears at gives you in game advice.

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« Reply #30 on: December 11, 2012, 08:09:26 pm »

I guess I don't understand the obsession.  It's not a full game.  It's not even a full game in the movie.  All they ever show is one screen.

It doesn't look like that hard of a game for someone to write themself and add a couple of levels.  Especially if nobody cares what hardware it runs on.

It is a full game and even has a kill screen.


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« Reply #31 on: December 12, 2012, 01:04:26 am »
Bad news on the software front.

It runs on a PC. The bios is encrypted. It boots an encrypted version of windows on one drive then loads the game from a second encrypted drive. The drives do not show up to other computers or copying equipment, it has already been tried by pros.

As soon as one of those 2 drives fail, the motherboard goes or the motherboard battery fails that game will be toast, assuming it doesn't already have a self destruct date in software.

It is relatively unlikely anyone is going to break modern encryption when the bios itself is encrypted.

This isn't exactly unique, many of the (cracked) PC based systems do similar (encrypted bios, encrypted truecrypt volumes within volumes etc.)

There has to be a way to dump the actual drive (usually involves booting it on the real system then finding some way to hotplug it to a real linux device etc. or sniffing the bus to find the unlock mechanism)

Of course an encrypted drive, and encrypted bios won't get your very far for playing it, and if the security keys are something secure, and stored in the dongle you still need a way to extract them.

The real problem is people go to all this work, then only distribute the @?!#ing hacked up images for play on a regular PC, which when then end up being bootlegged, and wiping out all hope of getting the encrypted originals!

The online distribution ones afaik are more secure because without an account they're worthless and most legitimate businesses aren't trying to crack them.
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« Reply #32 on: December 12, 2012, 09:31:26 am »

It should also be noted there is serious question about the information paigeoliver mentioned (provided by someone else over at KLOV).  The original description is not a likely hardware configuration.  The source is also known for self promotion at the expense of integrity.

Anything can be opened up and copied in the right hands.

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« Reply #33 on: December 12, 2012, 09:50:11 am »
So this means there is hope yet?
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« Reply #34 on: December 12, 2012, 09:58:50 am »
So this means there is hope yet?


I think it means we know less than people think we know about the game.

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« Reply #35 on: December 12, 2012, 11:34:41 am »
So this means there is hope yet?

Unlikely, there isn't enough money to be made in warezing it / creating bootlegs (and it would cost too much to try)

don't be fooled, that's the only reason people have made those Taito loaders etc. in the first place.

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