help needed with setting up xbox360 in arcade cab

[pudluther]

He has a nice carpet though.

word.

[Le Chuck]

Wait a minute.  I know that hand.  It was in the fall Bulova Watch Catalog.  You're J.P. Prewitt.  The world's greatest hand model.

[pudluther]

Wait a minute.  I know that hand.  It was in the fall Bulova Watch Catalog.  You're J.P. Prewitt.  The world's greatest hand model.

nice. 

[AndyWarne]

Frankly this thread is a mess.
What the OP has not mentioned is that I have been assisting with this via email so in fact posting here does not really add any value.

But, what he is trying to do makes sense. He will end up with a configurable control panel which can easily be switched over from PC to Xbox 360 and plugs into the JAMMA harness. No hacking, wiring or anything else.

The problems he has run into are as follows:

You cant reprogram keycodes on a J-PAC through the Xbox 360 adaptor! The J-PAC must be connected directly to the PC.

When connecting the J-PAC to a PC you cant use a PS/2 to USB converter (not mentioned here). The J-PAC is already a USB device so you would be trying to convert twice. The small adaptor plug pictured above will work, and the J-PAC will run as a USB device using this.

[MTPPC]

I couldn't care less about how you get your ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- wired. Hacking, adapters, easy changeout, blah, blah, blah. People have tried to help you and you pay them back by saying how you like stirring them up. Your j-pac isn't programming because you aren't using it correctly. I don't even know why you are asking for advice when you give terrible details on what you've done and then act as if you know it all and ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on anyone who tries to help you.

The post above says it all and Andy Warne has already wasted way too much time on you and your problem. And frankly so has anyone else reading this.

[pudluther]

What the OP has not mentioned is that I have been assisting with this via email so in fact posting here does not really add any value.

hmmmmm....

no...right now the only problem is i cannot get the JPAC to actually program.  it keeps giving me an error message.  i've been in contact with andy over at ultimarc and he has helped me identify the problem. apparently the JPAC is rather finicky when it comes to getting it to communicate with the PC....only a specific type of adapter will do the trick.  i suspect that once i get that adapter tomorrow, i will be able to program it with no problems.

but i do appreciate your help via email.  you've been fantastic.

[pudluther]

I couldn't care less about how you get your ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- wired. Hacking, adapters, easy changeout, blah, blah, blah. People have tried to help you and you pay them back by saying how you like stirring them up. Your j-pac isn't programming because you aren't using it correctly. I don't even know why you are asking for advice when you give terrible details on what you've done and then act as if you know it all and ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- on anyone who tries to help you.

The post above says it all and Andy Warne has already wasted way too much time on you and your problem. And frankly so has anyone else reading this.

awwwww....somebody needs a hug.  or some vagina. 



giggity.

[Donkbaca]

From what I gathered, its not just that he can't reprogram, its that some buttons aren't showing up.  Really, kudos to you for helping Andy, but this is a mess.  It could be the adapter that is screwed up, or maybe even the controller. Even if you could reprogram them there could be an issue with the adapter not playing nice with the Jpac, or maybe even the 360 itself having issues since they only recognize signed devices.

Really, I don't get the "easy to switch out" thing.  All CP's are pretty easy to switch out, it just a matter of unplugging a couple of disconnects or screw terminals.  What you have here is a jamma harness connected to a PC device, that is being converted to a Playstation 2 device which is then converted to an xbox 360 device.  I guess I could understand if you wanted to switch between some jamma boards and an xbox on the same cab, but that is not the case here, he's not using a jamma board and is using a TV instead of interfacing with a monitor.

Reallly it seems that all this is being done just to avoid rewiring the CP. 

Nobody cares how you interface your machine,  it is just sort of mind boggling as to why you would make something so difficult when there are numerous, simpler examples that are easy to follow.  All of the "why don't you just use 'x' suggestions isn't people being butt hurt, its people trying to help you out.  If you had just hacked pads, or replaced the buttons on a 360 joystick, or something like that, it would take maybe an hour and you would be up and running.  You are just adding complexity with no added benefit.

Anyhow.  Good luck, I hope you get it up and running, there are a TON of fun xbox games to play on a cab, I am glad I added mine to my cab

[pudluther]

From what I gathered, its not just that he can't reprogram, its that some buttons aren't showing up.  Really, kudos to you for helping Andy, but this is a mess.  It could be the adapter that is screwed up, or maybe even the controller. Even if you could reprogram them there could be an issue with the adapter not playing nice with the Jpac, or maybe even the 360 itself having issues since they only recognize signed devices.

yes, andy has been very helpful.  but it's not "a mess"....it's just that i could not get the JPAC programmed.  turns out i had it connected to the PC incorrectly during programming.  i have done what andy suggested and it now works.

Really, I don't get the "easy to switch out" thing.  All CP's are pretty easy to switch out, it just a matter of unplugging a couple of disconnects or screw terminals.  What you have here is a jamma harness connected to a PC device, that is being converted to a Playstation 2 device which is then converted to an xbox 360 device.  I guess I could understand if you wanted to switch between some jamma boards and an xbox on the same cab, but that is not the case here, he's not using a jamma board and is using a TV instead of interfacing with a monitor.

it's easy to "switch out" because the buttons take about 10 seconds to set up and program (once you hook the JPAC to the PC correctly.  lol). 

i've connected and disconnected the CP in that cab 4 or 5 times total...it started off as an MK1 cab, then i actually hooked up golden tee complete to it while i was repairing my dedicated cab (seriously...you shoulda seen it.  ha!), and i've had a multicade in there along with something else i can't remember at the moment.

i didn't want that this time.  i wanted controller adapters.  thankfully the JPAC exists.

Reallly it seems that all this is being done just to avoid rewiring the CP. 

yeah...that's pretty much it.  this way is plug 'n play.  simple.  that's what i wanted this time around.

Nobody cares how you interface your machine,  it is just sort of mind boggling as to why you would make something so difficult when there are numerous, simpler examples that are easy to follow.  All of the "why don't you just use 'x' suggestions isn't people being butt hurt, its people trying to help you out.  If you had just hacked pads, or replaced the buttons on a 360 joystick, or something like that, it would take maybe an hour and you would be up and running.  You are just adding complexity with no added benefit.

Anyhow.  Good luck, I hope you get it up and running, there are a TON of fun xbox games to play on a cab, I am glad I added mine to my cab

dude.....please don't tell me you whiffed on that little exchange with what's-his-name back up in the thread.  come on.  i made a comment....A JOKE....about people being taken aback when i tell them i'm not hacking (which they are.  nearly to a man).  i even included an "lol" and this little effer:   

what's-his-name then came along and jumped to an inaccurate conclusion.  it wasn't until the second time that i jabbed back with the butt-hurt comment. 







appreciate your responses in this thread.  now it's time to play some 360 in a cab. 

[pudluther]

just out of curiosity, donk....what 360 games do you have running in your cab?  i saw a few more fighters last night while i was looking around in the LIVE arcade (the marvel/street fighter one in particular). 

[MTPPC]

I don't think he has the PC and output of the j-pac all hooked up right. But it's really hard to help someone who knows it all already and can't even explain in pictures how the devices (j-pac in particular) are connected.

but it's not "a mess"....it's just that i could not get the JPAC programmed.  turns out i had it connected to the PC incorrectly during programming.

Thanks for all your wise-ass comments instead of the simple thanks you should be giving everyone who tried to help you. How old are you? 12 or 13?

[pudluther]

I don't think he has the PC and output of the j-pac all hooked up right. But it's really hard to help someone who knows it all already and can't even explain in pictures how the devices (j-pac in particular) are connected.

but it's not "a mess"....it's just that i could not get the JPAC programmed.  turns out i had it connected to the PC incorrectly during programming.

Thanks for all your wise-ass comments instead of the simple thanks you should be giving everyone who tried to help you. How old are you? 12 or 13?

look, corky....you decided to interject your smart ass BS from the jump.  i didn't ask for it. 


now....kindly go away. 

#internetmessageboardtoughguysrulz

[MTPPC]

I don't think he has the PC and output of the j-pac all hooked up right. But it's really hard to help someone who knows it all already and can't even explain in pictures how the devices (j-pac in particular) are connected.

but it's not "a mess"....it's just that i could not get the JPAC programmed.  turns out i had it connected to the PC incorrectly during programming.

Thanks for all your wise-ass comments instead of the simple thanks you should be giving everyone who tried to help you. How old are you? 12 or 13?

look, corky....you decided to interject your smart ass BS from the jump.  i didn't ask for it.  


now....kindly go away.  

#internetmessageboardtoughguysrulz

Nice.

[codefenix]

[pudluther]

nah, i don't think MTPPC is a troll.....he's just grumpy. 

[Donkbaca]

You'll turn on him, you always turn on them....

There are a ton of cool things to play on the cab, I think there is a thread dedicated to it somewhere.  I mostly play MK9 and SFIV on it

[pudluther]

You'll turn on him, you always turn on them....

There are a ton of cool things to play on the cab, I think there is a thread dedicated to it somewhere.  I mostly play MK9 and SFIV on it

yeah....i'm REALLY looking forward to playing the new MK on it.

SF4 looks really cool...I may download that at some point as well.

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[BobA]

Boring 

[pudluther]

Boring 

word.  thanks for stopping by our little neck of the intraweb woods.   

[ChrisK]

Pudluther, a suggestion: after this thread is over create a new account.  You're a train wreck.

[pudluther]

Pudluther, a suggestion: after this thread is over create a new account.  You're a train wreck.

hey look....somebody else stopped by the thread to offer absolutely nothing helpful. 


i love you guys.  best site on the interwebz.   

[emphatic]

Hey, give the new guy a break. 

[pudluther]

Hey, give the new guy a break. 

i'd be careful using that emoticon.  apparently the folks around here have a hard time with it....especially when used in conjunction with humor.

[Le Chuck]

Pud - are you still having issues?  If so what are your current issues and do you need any help or advice with them?  I don't necessarily have the answers you seek but I would like to see this train back on it's tracks.  If somebody posts something that isn't helpful I recommend you ignore and move on, it's an awfully big interwebz as you say and there is room for everybody... or you can keep shoveling and eventually the tide will come in behind you.  Either way I wouldn't criticize the site from which you are trying to get help.  Users tend to get very protective of this site.  This has been a PSA, so grain of salt, opinions are like ---uvulas---, yada yada, take it of leave it.   

[pudluther]

Pud - are you still having issues?  If so what are your current issues and do you need any help or advice with them?  I don't necessarily have the answers you seek but I would like to see this train back on it's tracks.  If somebody posts something that isn't helpful I recommend you ignore and move on, it's an awfully big interwebz as you say and there is room for everybody... or you can keep shoveling and eventually the tide will come in behind you.  Either way I wouldn't criticize the site from which you are trying to get help.  Users tend to get very protective of this site.  This has been a PSA, so grain of salt, opinions are like ---uvulas---, yada yada, take it of leave it.   

i'm not criticizing the site.  i have no problems with the site itself.  i'm trying to tell the a-holes here to go pleasure themselves anally without actually saying it.  i loathe stupid...unfortunately some folks are slap eat up with it.   i'm sure you understand that sentiment.



to the point of your post:  i am no longer having issues.  andy helped me out tremendously.  the problem wasn't in the way the JPAC was connected to the cab or the way the adapters were set up....the problem was that i was trying to use the same setup when programming (basically taking the USB end away from the 360's control port and plugging it into my laptop).  in order to program it properly, you have to plug the JPAC directly into the computer with either the ps/2 keyboard/mouse plug or use an adapter like the one mentioned earlier. 

once andy corrected my programming mistakes, the thing worked like a charm.  took all of about 2 seconds to program it. 

i appreciate your comments and you trying to get the thread back on track. 

[Le Chuck]

i'm not criticizing the site.  i have no problems with the site itself.  i'm trying to tell the a-holes here to go pleasure themselves anally without actually saying it.  i loathe stupid...unfortunately some folks are slap eat up with it.   i'm sure you understand that sentiment.

   I am disappoint.  Props to Andy Warne as usual. 

[pudluther]

 I am disappoint.

ok.  not sure why. 

[notaburger]

Good lord. Welcome to the site.

...I don't know what's going on around here. I remember this forum being the nicest one that I visited regularly. Maybe we're all just getting grouchy in our old age.

I just figured that I'd come out of my posting hiatus to say hello and to enjoy your 360 setup.

Dave

[pudluther]

Good lord. Welcome to the site.

...I don't know what's going on around here. I remember this forum being the nicest one that I visited regularly. Maybe we're all just getting grouchy in our old age.

I just figured that I'd come out of my posting hiatus to say hello and to enjoy your 360 setup.

Dave

thanks dave. 

hopefully it will be finished by next week...got my TV on the way from best buy.  it should be a big hit though....my kids are already enjoying the temporary setup i showed them!!! 

[pudluther]

speaking of getting that TV next week.......anybody have a suggestion on a mounting bracket to use?  i've been googling around and have a few ideas, but haven't really figured out which way i'm gonna go yet. 

i'm gonna pull the monitor.....i want to mount the TV right there.  it's a 24" panasonic LED LCD.  it should work nicely with my existing bezel, assuming the dimensions listed on the best buy site are accurate.  lol.

[HaRuMaN]

Make your own bracket out of plywood?  Just use the VESA mount holes on the back of the TV and get the correct machine screws.

[Le Chuck]

Make your own bracket out of plywood?  Just use the VESA mount holes on the back of the TV and get the correct machine screws.

^this.

[Drnick]

Unless you are planning on rotating or anything then as Le Chuck and HaRuMaN said, make your own.  If for whatever reason you don't want to then just get the cheapest flat standard mounting kit for a 24" led you can find. It Shouldn't cost much really.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Flat-TV-Wall-Mount-For-VESA-200-X-200-LCD-LED-TV-LCD-LED-Monitor-10-to-32-/300683920356?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item46022883e4

Its got Supported VESA patterns: 75x75, 100x100, 200x100, 200x200

Probably not the cheapest on ebay, but was the first that came up.

[pudluther]

cool.  thanks!

[opt2not]

Got a better picture of that cool carpet?

I need to work on my gaming decor...

[pudluther]

Got a better picture of that cool carpet?

I need to work on my gaming decor...

yeah....lemme see what i can find.  i think i have one in my photobucket account.  stand by...

[pudluther]

this is the only one i could find:




i would go take another one, but it's a wreck in there right now since i'm working on that 360 cab.  also, my setup isn't like that anymore.....i still have the 4-player cab, the silver strike/golden tee, the KI cabinet (actually running NFL BLITZ '99 in that one), and the dynamo cab on the right (which is the one i'm gonna be using for the 360).  sold the area51/max force a while back. 



here's my pin lineup, for anybody interested in things other than arcades:

[opt2not]

Very nice line-up!

Yeah I like that carpet. Where'd you get it from?  I can't tell by the picture but it looks like it would look great black-lit.

[Le Chuck]

Very nice line-up!

Yeah I like that carpet. Where'd you get it from?  I can't tell by the picture but it looks like it would look great black-lit.

http://www.astrocarpetmills.com/

For all your crazy carpet needs

[pudluther]

Very nice line-up!

Yeah I like that carpet. Where'd you get it from?  I can't tell by the picture but it looks like it would look great black-lit.

thanks.


yeah...the carpet looks fantastic when you throw a black light to it. 

you can definitely get it online, but you may want to check and see if your local carpet company has it in stock OR can order it.  i was able to buy it at the local place here and have them install it for me.....saved a bunch of money over the online price.