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[ed12]

hi
ok a fast up-date here
if u can :slave: your drive
and place it in a running xp box >xp-olny<
u can edit file's
ie 318 runtime.ini :interesting little diddie there:
55 .autoexec.bat  >key number ref file<

now welp we are at add and delte's
cd\gvr
u will find :nvidia_installer_61771:
niftie little file for the call to your video card serial# >build<

now your best way to do this is to use it as a 2nd drive >slave<
just rember the cmd's i posted
so u can find the .dir's

ed

[simonw]

Hi Ed

Great work so far!
Will I be able to boot my PGA machine without the dongle by:

Slaving the drive to a XP machine.
Copying the missing drivers to system 32:PCI simple communications controller, Multimedia Audio Controller, Sisagp.sys.
Run CMD: locate and delete the c:\hercules del gvrdonglemonitor.exe.
Install the hard drive back into the PGA machine.

Please could you point me in the right direction if I've missed any steps?

Cheers
Simon

[stpcore]

I've tried deleting the donglemonitor.exe file in multiple combinations in the past and it never worked for me. Just offering my experience.

[simonw]

Oh no. With your help, it's so close to working!
I don't suppose you have any dongles for sale?

Cheers

[stpcore]

It seems like Ed is close to getting this done.  He has the day off today and he may finish it up.  Let's see what happens today and if you need a dongle I will get one to you.  I think his above post was more showing his approach on how he is going to kill the dongle versus a tutorial on how to do so.

[ed12]

hi
stpcore your 50/50 on that call
yes it is a way to do it,and what i found
i am going to slave this drive today to find out if i am correct
what i did find yesterday is u CANNNOT edit in winxpe
so i am going to try a backdoor way today

now on to your card reader problem
i olny have 1 question for u
once your machine fire's up dose it no go to a screen that say's no card reader found press start to contuine ?
and if press start dose the machine truly start :ie course's etc :?

ed

[stpcore]

I do get the card reader error stating that it is not connected and I have to press the start button to continue and the game starts.

[ed12]

hi
stpcore
ok i was looking into the file's
i will list them out for it is a long list and u CANNOT get at them normaly like
they are hidden in the player's/course's/cardreader,then they link back to the reader's..it's wack but they are there

now i did remove
c:\hercules\gvrdonglemonitor.exe
but it did biatch at me for the dongle...it has something to do
with the game serial# or such
will work at it today to totaly kill this cmd

now back to your pressing problem
would u be ok with just removing the card-reader ?
for all reasons i do not use it anyway's
as i repoint to save to harddrive.
reason for this is i do not think ppl are going to move that info with them >a<
and with it on line with your password u can log into the putter in question >your's<
if it is on.

ed

[ed12]

hi
ok this is your key hash
><RSAKeyValue><Modulus>nig9wrauWsH/aJK9Ogs/kEcZ+BkpsyDVqWH8c+YhAVKuR6UDBtSXZ1Km+ZHfqCbsc71MLwoVGhUlHzTIU03TgFq5kEhWU9tSR+zD9Njk3ELV1Me4wbQP/MHBtW85TovColpg/07FqLfRjBDNKGQCKk/FkuIeXJXJrBuRNPEUPKc=</Modulus><Exponent>AQAB</Exponent></RSAKeyValue><

must be removed
sit's here >what ever the drive letter become's in your main box:\GvrPlus\4<
it is a xml file
it goes also
more to follow

ed

[stpcore]

I have two reasons I would like to get the card reader going.

1.  I have someone picking up a machine that would like to use the card reader as there is no other way to customize a golfer for him at this point.
2.  I personally would like to create and save my golfer info and up to now the only option to do this is with the card reader.

I think the create a golfer is a great feature that I don't want to shut off and ignore.

[ed12]

hi
ok understood
bear with me

ed

[stpcore]

Ed, thank you for helping but PLEASE don't let my card reader issue slow the progress of your software patches.  It's not very important and I can figure it out later.  Thanks!

[ed12]

hi
stpcore your request is by no main's out of the relm
for what i am doing
trust me here

dongle offender cmd will need edit's
reason is simple if u remove it >windows/system32/gameenum.sys<
the game will not boot
putting it back into system32 make's all it to happey
so as it is written in c++? why i do not know
but it is there so we find the >linker's< or :edit: the .cmd using vb6 or 7

ed

[ed12]

hi
i did a disasmably on gameenum.sys
and it point's to
hal.dll
and
ntoskrnl >kernel file< ie register file
i just yanked them out
let the testing begin,they all sit in windows/system32

ed

[stpcore]

So Ed, where you able to get anything finished for PGA on your off day yesterday?  It looks as if you where working on it for a good part of the day.  Curious about your results.

[ed12]

hi
yes stpcore i did
i am off today so i can play again

i did remove ntoskrnl.exe
and hal.dll
and it complained
so i put back hal.dll and it still complained
then i placed back in ntoskrnl.exe and it fired right up
so there we have it
i have missed a linker from hall.dll
will process the dll today to find it

ed

[stpcore]

Good job.  Keep us posted today (I look forward to these updates).

[ed12]

hi
look's like i am off tommrow and friday also
so now we have lot's of play time

stpcore
 i am still puzzled as to why your card reader will not work
when as u state windows xp sp3 will c it i do think there is a test s/w for it
let me dig out my lappie,i should have it


dirt
my boss shipped..

ed

[stpcore]

It's a mystery to me as well.  Although Windows XP recognizes both card readers neither of them register anything when I swipe a card in PGA or in my Windows XP laptop.  I don't really know what's going on there.

I'm selling my last Team Challenge with dongle next week.  I have one more tower running Team Challenge that I'm keeping for myself but I lost the Team Challenge dongle so hopefully your software patches will be in place by next week as I will be without Team Challenge and that is disappointing!

[simonw]

Sounds like positive progress.
Please let me know if there is anything I can test in regards to deleting the dongle.

Cheers
Simon

[stpcore]

It would be great to contact someone on the original PGA Golf development team to see if they could shed some light and point us in the right direction.  I wonder where they are now?!  I will be in and out all day but if I can help test anything let me know as well.

[simonw]

They are no more in the UK. There is very little available for Global VR products.

[ed12]

hi
i have a little timbit for ya

in the main .dir
ie c:\
look for boot.ini
remove this cmd at the end of the line >/noguiboot
save
place drive back into machine
wala 10-x faster boot
and it will show windowsxpembeded
right in the start up screen

stpcore
i know i went over this
but the s/w team was disbanded 10+ year's ago
that is right out of gobalvr's mouth
and it was a team >10 or more< coder's
this is the reason i was given the okie dokie to tear the s/w down
and rebuild it to our now new need's

now back to this dongle

ed

[ed12]

hi
ok the fun begins

>herculesui.exe<
open it
a popup  will show
start/stop service's
interesting how they hid that 1
the dongle/coin mech/marquie how ever must be in the machine
this run's counter.. as they stripped out our abilty to strip cmd's
from there running s/w
let me look futher into this
decompile here i come

ed

[ed12]

hi
ok u can safley remove \hercules  >patchagent.exe<
it is a useless file
watch the game boot even faster

also i removed
\hercules vssserv.scc
that is verison service's file

for them that do not know or cannot
 figuire out what >\< that is
it put's u to the root of the drive
this put's u into the :tree: >/<

just the slashs and not the arrow's
ed

[stpcore]

I remember working on the patchagent with the donglemonitor.exe thinking that the two may depend on one another for the dongle call.  Getting closer to killing it?

[ed12]

hi
yup
just doing another test
biatch is i have to reboot main putter everytime i load in the drive
oh well such is life
next is kill monitor
for lcd user's i do believe they will love this kill..
off to test

ed

[lilshawn]

just for shits and giggles stpcore, you have a working machine no?

how about booting up the system, then one it's booted to the game, removing the dongle...does the game still properly operate or does it work for a bit and then complain about the dongle being gone?

the reason i ask is... If the system only checks for the dongle on game start, and doesn't ask about the dongle again, it will be simple to remove the call for the dongle.

if it continuously asks for the dongle throughout the operation, (called "envelope") it's more to it than you are seeing.

i know the newer USB style of Hasp HL locks are usually locked "envelope" style and are called continuously (every few minutes), if the software calls for a dongle shoutout and it doesn't get one it shuts down. It's extremely hard to bypass this type of system because the call system is injected into the programs code using some software. the only way ive seen to remove the envelope is to load the program and use the master key (that was used to apply the dongle code to the software in the first place) to remove it.

I know this because I ordered a hasp usb dongle learning/development kit from Aladdin (later Sentinel and now safe-net) some time ago because our jukebox software uses them. (planed on attempting to bypass the system) There was an attempt (by me) to utilize a program "BrainStudio HASP emulator" that scans the system for HASP calls and then emulate those calls via software running in windows so you didn't need the original key. I was never able to get it to work (though i never tried very hard.)

perhaps this might be a plan "B"?

[stpcore]

lilshawn, I will check when I get home and let you know.

Ed, I use a 39" LCD. What will killmonitor do?

[stpcore]

It seems that the game will not fully function when the dongle is removed after it initially loads.  After Team Challenge loaded on my computer I removed the dongle.  The menus where fully functional (selecting a game, number of golfers, specific golfer, and course) but when the course should be loading the game switches to  the "Thanks for playing" screen and returns you to the main menu.  So it looks like it's calling for the dongle before each game is launched.  Oh well...looks like envelope.

[ed12]

hi
not really stpcore
i am just picking it apart
it is all pointing to c:\hercules\autoexe.bat
i have removed \hercules\stallmonitor
and hercules\crashmonitor
had to put back both in
or it will not be stable
or not load
so they are intertwined
this point's me to the .bat file
as the game will reload after a short break..? just not right for what we want to do
now it loads without stallmonitor.exe
guess it had to rebuild itself
let me chk into more

ed

[stpcore]

Sounds good.  What is the kill monitor you are referring to?  This dongle call may as well be installed in our National Security as it seems rather effective in doing it's job.  LOL!

[lilshawn]

how about if we just just got the game to the attract screen let it run for a bit, then pull the dongle. does it stall or quit if left alone on the attract screen or does it continue to run. (don't try to start a game this time, just let it run)

it may just call the dongle as each section runs. in which case ed is on the right track. if it's enveloped, he might be barking up the wrong tree.

i'll dig up my kit out of the basement storage tonight and do some reading.

[stpcore]

Alright man, I'm on it.  I will test it for a few minutes and see what happens.  I do know that it stuttered in attract mode with the dongle removed after I tried to load a game but haven't tried to let attract mode run without starting a game.  Give me a few minutes and I will report back.

[stpcore]

I let the game load and during the attract mode I pulled the dongle.  After about 2 minutes of attract mode I received the "Dongle is invalid or missing" screen.

[lilshawn]

we might be in for quite a haul to get this hacked.

i'm not 100% about the parallel port hasp keys (as the info i have pertains mainly to the Hasp HL USB keys. I imagine the technology is similar...) but there is basically 2 ways you can go about protecting software "envelope" and writing the call checks directly into the software.

while not impossible to remove the call checks from the code, it will be tedious.

if it's enveloped, you need the original vendor key used to apply the SRM in the first place to remove the SRM from the software. In this case, we would need to get that from global VR directly.

[stpcore]

Well that doesn't sound very encouraging. I do appreciate your honesty. Ed has been in contact with Global VR so maybe they can help?

[lilshawn]

of course the Parallel hasp keys could be completely different. HASP keys are very well documented... which means there should be lots of workarounds.

this is where i first started out learning about the HASP keys: http://www.brstudio.com/dongles.html i went back and re-tried to get a log of our HASP and i managed to get a log of our juke software key and i sent it off this afternoon we will see if/what gets sent back.

if this guy is still running software, this may be a suitable plan "B".

[ed12]

hi
thk-u for the site
let me give er a go
might be alot easier

ed

[ed12]

hi
well i am at it and your e-me is not i have the toutune's 4 way patch fresh off of the priniting press
ploy 10/20 4-way
little side track there i know
sorry channel

ed