Author Topic: Maybe Next Year :( 2011 BYOAC Tokens - FRONT Side design thread (Read 32746 times)

Santoro · « **on:** September 24, 2010, 08:05:06 pm »

Update July 17 2011.

We are moving forward again. See here:

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=106114.msg1201693#msg1201693

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This thread is for the design discussions and proposals regarding the FRONT side of the 2011 BYOAC token.

We are designing .984" (25mm) tokens. So that all entries are judged equally, submissions should be in grayscale only, without bling. (Bling refers to color, photorealistic renderings. If we get a volunteer to bling all entries at the end equally, we can do that.) White should indicate the lowest point of the token, black the highest. If you want to show partial-height details use shades of gray, Different levels of gray are OK. Of interest as you design, the 'lowest' or 'deepest' point on the token will usually be shiny because it doesn't require machining.

So that those of us who are not Photoshop Gurus are given a fair shot , no 'blinged' renderings should be posted.

Guidelines/Rules
-No R-Rated material
-No trademarked or copyrighted images. (Pacman, etc...)
-MAME references are OK though, we have approval to use the logo if we like as long as we respect the spirit of MAME - i.e. no references to playing thousands of games, etc.
-No Bling - refer to the 2004 thread below to see how blinged line art turns out.
-Should display "Build Your Own Arcade Controls" (or at least "BYOAC") and the www.arcadecontrols.com URL because BYOAC is the whole point of the tokens.
-If at all possible you should have your art in vector format. (Adobe Illustrator AI for example.) Next best is very high-res raster (Hi-res meaning greater than or equal to 300DPI,) but I discourage it because we have always used vector with superb results. Low-res artwork won't work, you will need to have someone fix it up for you.
-Vector fonts need to be converted to curves.
- .002" is the absolute minimum line width. While lines can be reproduced at this scale, text may not be readable for being too small.
-The 'lowest' or 'deepest' point on the token will usually be shiny because it doesn't require machining.
-Keep in mind that almost 30% of my customers are outside the USA, so specific references to US currency, flags, etc may hurt your chances of winning.
-If you are submitting what you consider your final proposal, please say so in your post. Otherwise we will assume you are submitting it for group discussion and tweaking.

This is a good sample from 2004:

I like to sketch my ideas first and I am awful at freehanding circles so I created a template that is just a page full of circles. I have attached it if anyone wants to use it.

Here are previous years' threads for reference.
2010 Front
2010 Back
2007 Back
2006 Front
2006 Back
2005 Front
2005 Back
2004 combined thread

Final Designs must be submitted to this thread no later than October 24, Midnight Eastern Time. This is a strict deadline so that we don't wind up delivering the tokens after the holidays.

After that date I will create voting threads with the final entries.

Santoro · « **Reply #1 on:** September 25, 2010, 02:44:05 pm »

Just a note that I added a few items to the guidelines and I also added circle template for those that want to sketch out some token ideas by hand first.

Santoro · « **Reply #2 on:** October 03, 2010, 09:05:11 am »

It's been a week, nothing yet? Everyone is feverishly at work... right? RIGHT?

Marsupial · « **Reply #3 on:** October 03, 2010, 08:29:44 pm »

how about that?

how does it work for the front VS back? should we post the same design on both threads?

Marsupial · « **Reply #4 on:** October 03, 2010, 08:56:38 pm »

altough playing with deepness might do it good

Santoro · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2010, 10:50:42 pm »

It seems a bit too familiar, but here's an idea I was toying with. I still need to add the rest of the text, just wanted to get reactions and suggestions for tweaks. I kind of like the idea of the Atari guy winning and the 'men's room' guy losing.

Is anyone else working on designs?

Pixelhugger · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2010, 11:13:19 pm »

I hoping to.

Santoro · « **Reply #7 on:** October 28, 2010, 07:02:49 am »

Well consider the contest extended. We may not make Christmas, but I'd prefer to have a wider selection of choices before the voting.

Vigo · « **Reply #8 on:** October 28, 2010, 03:00:38 pm »

I'll see if I have time to do a design this weekend. No promises, but we gotta have some design choices.

saint · « **Reply #9 on:** October 28, 2010, 03:49:35 pm »

Some of my favorites from past years that might be considered?

Quote from: sez on August 19, 2008, 09:43:32 am

Last attempt by me.

Front design.

Quote from: Pixelhugger on August 25, 2008, 12:17:17 am

AAAARRRRRRGH.

Out of time. Please understand this is rough. I would still need to add tools to the tool belt, redraw the measuring tape, add byoac to the swimsuit etc. And of course vectorize the whole thing since this is still a pencil sketch compiled from a bunch of different drafts in an attempt to save precious time.

Ran out of time doing the matching (and appropriately designed "tails") side.

Guess there's no pleading for an extension.... :'(

Quote from: Pixelhugger on September 07, 2008, 04:53:31 pm

Here is the t shirt and shorts version. Still rough. Added tshirt, carpenter shorts and reduced certain "proportions"

Quote from: Pixelhugger on October 23, 2008, 06:20:33 pm

Ouch this was painful to vectorize and keep the details big enough.

Background (carpet and "sky") would be stippled to give the image lots of depth.

Quote from: Pixelhugger on May 18, 2007, 04:52:28 pm

Here's my backside. Errr. Entry.

And here's the blinging I'm talking about. I decided to post this (even tho it makes me a hippocrite) because it seems like enthusiasm for the design process doesn't really pick up until the bling stage. So again, if anyone has final entries they'd like blinged send them my way. Final entries only. It definitley makes a big difference seeing how the designs will look in relief. Santoro.... let me know if you're OK with this. If not I'll pull it.

Now lets see more designs!!

Quote from: Pixelhugger on August 15, 2007, 08:36:26 pm

I should probably post these in their respective threads for front and back, but to keep things simple I'm just gonna put all blinged entries here. Is that OK santoro?

Quote from: missioncontrol on March 29, 2006, 11:33:32 pm

If Troz is still around I would like to see him work on this some more:

Quote from: Pixelhugger on April 28, 2006, 05:57:45 pm

Blinged so far:

Quote from: Pixelhugger on April 28, 2006, 05:59:25 pm

and

Quote from: Pixelhugger on May 20, 2005, 05:36:19 pm

And another. Background stippled.

EDIT: Ooops. Forgot to put ball tops on the foreground cab. Will fix later....

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Quote from: Santoro on September 28, 2009, 08:57:33 pm

jfunk

Pixelhugger

xbakesx

MrCurmudgeon

Missioncontrol

sez1

sez2

dstone

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Quote from: Santoro on September 28, 2009, 08:45:41 pm

I am really sorry for the delays in getting the polls up. Life's been hectic, thanks for your patience.

I will leave them open until October 16th, and a few days after that I will begin preorders. If there is enough demand we will order, and I hope to have the tokens ready for shipping before the Christmas Holiday.

Pixelhugger:

fatfingers

xbakesx

missioncontrol

dstone

sezzie

Vigo · « **Reply #10 on:** November 01, 2010, 12:34:02 am »

OK! I found some time this evening, so I have an entry to submit.

I was going for a very official, yet simple design. I tried to translate "Build You Own Arcade Controls" to Latin, I'm not 100% sure on the translation, but I'm pretty sure it's an okay translation.

Also, I know there is some dead space on the Shield, i can try filling it with something, but I'm getting some sleep soon. I just wanted to get something out tonight.

Marsupial · « **Reply #11 on:** November 03, 2010, 12:34:14 pm »

I like this one. It could be cleaned up or modified a bit, but this is a great concept!
I'd remove the 3-d aspect of tha asteroletters.

How does it work... do we need to have separate threads for the front and back, or all the art should be shown here?

Aithos · « **Reply #12 on:** November 08, 2010, 10:34:14 pm »

Not sure if this is dead or not, but I would be interested in ordering if something gets figured out. I'll also try my hand at a submission if I get some time here, I have a couple 4 day weekends coming up and since I haven't been able to order my parts for my MAME machine yet I might be able to whip something together! I'm not great with computer art programs, but I'm pretty good with designs!

dstone · « **Reply #13 on:** November 09, 2010, 03:03:25 pm »

How did I miss this? I'll have to hop on it tonight and see what I can come up with.

dstone · « **Reply #14 on:** November 09, 2010, 07:04:40 pm »

Edit: This one is not going to be used for a BOYAC token. Thanks.

Marsupial · « **Reply #15 on:** November 09, 2010, 09:13:02 pm »

For some reason, the mushroom rings with console games for me. but the 1up on the other thread, I really like.

saint · « **Reply #16 on:** November 09, 2010, 09:28:28 pm »

Quote from: dstone on November 09, 2010, 07:04:40 pm

Heh. Direct sprite rips or close proximities to copyrighted characters will get us in trouble unfortunately.

dstone · « **Reply #17 on:** November 09, 2010, 10:56:09 pm »

The fighter ship and invader were a 'close proximity' from last year...

I'll see if I can cook up something different to go with the back.

dstone · « **Reply #18 on:** November 10, 2010, 12:00:38 am »

A more generic, non-infringing design. 1up= extra man.

dstone · « **Reply #19 on:** November 10, 2010, 05:22:13 pm »

Another go, not so sure I like this one now that I've drawn it up.

Marsupial · « **Reply #20 on:** November 30, 2010, 09:24:55 pm »

nobodyelse?

dstone · « **Reply #21 on:** December 14, 2010, 06:52:26 pm »

Apparently not... It's been over a month since my last submission, and it's only had 7 views. I'm kinda surprised by the low turnout of designs this year.

lilshawn · « **Reply #22 on:** December 23, 2010, 03:01:44 pm »

Quote from: dstone on December 14, 2010, 06:52:26 pm

Apparently not... It's been over a month since my last submission, and it's only had 7 views. I'm kinda surprised by the low turnout of designs this year.

most unfortunate.

i would take a stab at this, but i suck at drawing.

how about a coin that just says "continue?" on one side and "continue!" on the other. adorned with BYOAC stuff around the outside of course.

Marsupial · « **Reply #23 on:** December 23, 2010, 06:28:12 pm »

Quote from: Santoro on October 28, 2010, 07:02:49 am

Well consider the contest extended. We may not make Christmas, but I'd prefer to have a wider selection of choices before the voting.

yeah, I think we won't make christmas. Now... my question is. People might suck at design, they might still want tokens. Is this still going to happen?

ChadTower · « **Reply #24 on:** December 24, 2010, 09:29:16 am »

Quote from: saint on November 09, 2010, 09:28:28 pm

Quote from: dstone on November 09, 2010, 07:04:40 pm

Heh. Direct sprite rips or close proximities to copyrighted characters will get us in trouble unfortunately.

As nice as that one is it seems more like a console icon anyway.

gaffner · « **Reply #25 on:** December 31, 2010, 10:03:54 pm »

Any way we can get a reprint of the 2010 tokens? They were pretty awesome; they sold out so quick! It was a good design, and I would love to buy some of those.

I think the big issue is that it's going to be tough to beat the design of those.

lilshawn · « **Reply #26 on:** January 01, 2011, 02:57:26 pm »

Quote from: gaffner on December 31, 2010, 10:03:54 pm

Any way we can get a reprint of the 2010 tokens? They were pretty awesome; they sold out so quick! It was a good design, and I would love to buy some of those.

I think the big issue is that it's going to be tough to beat the design of those.

you could scratch out the 2010 and write 2011 by it. XD lol

Marsupial · « **Reply #27 on:** January 01, 2011, 10:24:03 pm »

or use only one face, changing the other one.

dstone · « **Reply #28 on:** January 18, 2011, 08:11:01 pm »

Since there was some interest in last year's design, I tweaked it a bit, merged it with what I had going for this year, and changed up the invader (removed the 3D effect, made it less "chunky").

yotsuya · « **Reply #29 on:** January 18, 2011, 08:34:45 pm »

I would buy that design.

bleargh · « **Reply #30 on:** January 19, 2011, 03:21:50 am »

Ditto; I'd buy a hundred or two of those. dstone++

tsaylor · « **Reply #31 on:** January 21, 2011, 01:31:54 am »

Yeah, thumbs up on that. I'm getting out my wallet...

Garebear911 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 21, 2011, 07:03:47 pm »

I never noticed this thread before. I usually don't pay attention to the sticky threads. I can dig the last design.
I really wanted to get some last year but they sold out. If anyone has some for sale I'd be interested.

Nephasth · « **Reply #33 on:** January 22, 2011, 02:51:29 pm »

Quote from: dstone on January 18, 2011, 08:11:01 pm

Since there was some interest in last year's design, I tweaked it a bit, merged it with what I had going for this year, and changed up the invader (removed the 3D effect, made it less "chunky").

You know what would be punny, if "Build Your Own Arcade Controls" above the invader was replaced with "In Vader We Trust."

gaffner · « **Reply #34 on:** January 22, 2011, 02:58:30 pm »

Same... I'd buy some of last year's tokens and this year's if it was the design above.

Also, let me know if anyone has last year's tokens for sale as well. Thanks!

tho · « **Reply #35 on:** January 31, 2011, 01:16:02 pm »

I'm no artist, but what about one side having a hand holding a trophy that's in a shape of an arcade cabinet? Not my most creative idea, but this year I'm finishing (relatively speaking) my arcade cabinet and I definitely feel that I've won something.

Marsupial · « **Reply #36 on:** February 06, 2011, 01:03:12 pm »

I think santoro completely abandonned the idea altogether.

somehow, I feel that the participation in design contest has nothing to do with intention to acquire tokens, so I think this is a shame.

Garebear911 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 15, 2011, 12:09:39 pm »

Quote from: Marsupial on February 06, 2011, 01:03:12 pm

I think santoro completely abandonned the idea altogether.

Sigh...

Santoro · « **Reply #38 on:** February 21, 2011, 05:18:20 pm »

I'm here. I am very sorry for the non-response, but I have been struggling with what to do. Here is my dilemma:

1) Even in previous years when we had 10+ page-long design threads (indicating heavy interest) we usually just eeked by the 'break-even line' for the minimum order. In fact often I wound up taking a minor risk and funding some some tokens before the break-even point just to get it done. In the past I was reasonably confident I would sell the rest anyway. In this economy I am not so confident and my family finances would not allow me to cover it even if I wanted too.
2) This year the interest level has been very, very low, no offense to the few that spoke up here or on my website. I cannot see any scenario where we will get critical mass for a full order.
3) My family and professional lives don't give me much online time lately to manage the design threads/polling/etc.
4) Brass prices have gone up again, which will not help demand either.

My gut tells me it would be wasted effort to continue right now, and so I am considering freezing this years's run for 6 months and then evaluating things then. I am interested in other's thoughts however before deciding for sure.

bleargh · « **Reply #39 on:** February 21, 2011, 06:32:20 pm »

Quote from: Santoro on February 21, 2011, 05:18:20 pm

My gut tells me it would be wasted effort to continue right now, and so I am considering freezing this years's run for 6 months and then evaluating things then. I am interested in other's thoughts however before deciding for sure.

Although I'm sorry to hear that this is the decision you've come to, I can appreciate and respect the position you're in.

If/when you change your mind or are considering a re-evalution, please do let us know; I'm totally interested in a new set of tokens and wouldn't want to miss out.

And just to refresh my memory, how big an order do you need to make? e.g. to gauge what level of interest you'd need in order to make a full order, how big is that order? 10,000? 100,000?

Santoro++ for all of your efforts in previous years; I love the BYOAC tokens I've got, and you've always been a responsive and responsible seller here.


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