ipad anyone?

[Vanguard]

Not only that but Windows Phone 7 is still a concept.  We do not know for sure what features will make it into the shipping product, and some of the announced features could obviously still get the 11th hour axe (see WinFS)

Well, to you then it's a concept.  To me it's not.

[patrickl]

Patrick referred to the iPad as a "mythical concept" immediately after saying that he would by a Windows Mobile 7 device.

Ehm ... seriously? In fact I said that I WOULDN'T buy one.

[shmokes]

Ehm ... seriously?

Yes . . . totally seriously.

Upon re-reading your post, however, it's pretty clear that I totally misunderstood it when I read it the first time.   

[patrickl]

Lol.

The Courier is still a concept though. Probably, if and when it comes out, it will disappoint (me) too.

[Blanka]

Again, the latest smartphones have been coming out with AMOLED screens for at least a year.

I only take one smartphone serious for now. And that one has no AMOLED.  
If Steve does not want an AMOLED yet, there must be something wrong with it  

[patrickl]

Again, the latest smartphones have been coming out with AMOLED screens for at least a year.

I only take one smartphone serious for now. And that one has no AMOLED.  
If Steve does not want an AMOLED yet, there must be something wrong with it  

I read somewhere that they hacked Android onto a iPhone 2G. Maybe that's the best of both worlds for you

[Vanguard]

Again, the latest smartphones have been coming out with AMOLED screens for at least a year.

I only take one smartphone serious for now. And that one has no AMOLED.  
If Steve does not want an AMOLED yet, there must be something wrong with it  

There isn't anything wrong with AMOLED technology.  Google just chose not to put the more expense displays in their phone.  There are 3 sub pixel 32 bit AMOLED displays out there and they look fantastic.   They also use less power and handle tensile mechanical strain far better than LCDs.  The biggest problem that AMOLED has is lifespan but for phones that's hardly and issue.   Who keeps their phone for 5-6 years and uses it 8 hours a day?

Apple doesn't use AMOLED because Apple builds cheapo hardware.   They do a good job with the user interface and ecosystem but the hardware itself is nothing exciting.  It's usually not cutting edge but rather the commodity stuff that enables Apple to build a cheap device that they sell at huge markups.

[patrickl]

OK, so the Courier has been cancelled. Ah well.

[CheffoJeffo]

OK, so the Courier has been cancelled. Ah well.

And apparently the Slate.

 :'(

[patrickl]

OK, so the Courier has been cancelled. Ah well.

And apparently the Slate.

 :'(

Well the HP Slate is ultimately most likely going to be slimmed down rather than cancelled right? Didn't quite understand their idea to put Windows 7 on something that's esentially a PDA. I assumed they would come out with an Android version soon after.

Palm was big in the PDA market once so if (big screen) PDA's are going to make a comeback, maybe buying them isn't such a bad idea for HP. Palm was alo working on a netbook type device (Foleo or something) before Asus came out with one and took the market by storm. Although Apple's idea was more like a big PDA with a keyboard rather than a small laptop. Maybe Palm was even working on a tablet of their own already?

Either way it's just going to be just one more offering of essentialy the same thing. I really would have liked to see the Courier.

[Level42]

Mmmm, funny. Once the developers of competeting devices get the iPad in hands, they all seem to cancel their development. Mmmm.

Maybe they realise their product is no match to it ?




By the way, I may have changed my mind about getting an iPad. Instead I may be trading in my Mini for a 27" iMac 

[Level42]

HAH, they sold 1 million units within half the time that the iPhone needed !!! Only 28 days vs. 74 for the iPhone.

But I'm sure Patrick and the like are totally right, it's a crap device, not going to sell. 

[CheffoJeffo]

I don't think it is a crap device, but I know that it won't do everything that I want a tablet to do.

Sadly, there isn't a tablet currently (or in the near future) that does everything I want to do and Apple's rapidly-approaching-draconian constraints on developers means that Apple will never give me what I want, even though they provide a slick experience with what they choose to provide.

I have more Apple products in my home now than I have at any time since the mid 80s. None of them are mine (and, obviously, I am not in Apple's desired demographic).

I admire the design and, for the most part, love the functionality. I get a couple of iTunes receipts each week for purchases made by others in my household. But, it seems that Apple is interested in herding users into a corral where the expectations are lower than I would like and, in doing so, convincing said users of what they really want to do.

It's good marketing, but doesn't anybody remember McLuhan ?

Level -- do you, as a flag-waving Apple fan, have any concerns over the way Apple is herding users into their proprietary, limited, world ?

[Loafmeister]

kind of relevant to the Ipad via the flash support issue, but I was testing my new quad core i7 computer when I realized the default Internet Explorer browser was NOT the 64bit version.  WTF?  That's a surprise, so I switched that, ran the 64bit IE and then was greeted on the first page I accessed with an error, via a need to install the flash plug-in.

So I installed it, didn't work. Installed it again, didn't work.  What the heck?  So I went to the flash page and noticed they still do not have a plugin for the 64bit version of IE...

Back to Apple and the IPAD, I still think they need to add USB support, more memory and yes, flash support. But if its taking this bloody long for Adobe to come up with 64bit version of their flash app, what does that say to Apple and their concern that flash may be too bloated, too CPU intensive for their Ipad's?

This doesn't convince me that Apple is making their decisions with the consumer in mind (I really think they don't want to offer alternatives to Itunes) but from a development perspective, Adobe needs to get on their horse for stuff like this as upon reflection, it certainly makes them look pretty sad in my book and has certainly made them feel like less a victim with this issue.

[RayB]

Adobe have painted themselves into a corner by putting all their focus on selling their products in "Suite" packages. That means every major product release (such as Flash, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, etc (there are dozens of apps!)) has to be debugged and completed all by the same release date, rather than each developed at their own pace, as suits the individual product best.

[patrickl]

HAH, they sold 1 million units within half the time that the iPhone needed !!! Only 28 days vs. 74 for the iPhone.

But I'm sure Patrick and the like are totally right, it's a crap device, not going to sell. 

Does being a pathetic fanboy make you incredibly stupid too or something? Where did I say it was "crap" or that it wouldn't sell?

[t3design]

Anyone else see this? Looks like "no Flash" is not going to be a problem.

H.264 ascendant: why Apple’s no-Flash, no-Theora gamble is paying off

[protokatie]

Anyone else see this? Looks like "no Flash" is not going to be a problem.

H.264 ascendant: why Apple’s no-Flash, no-Theora gamble is paying off

If flash was only for video, that would be a good graph, sadly flash is an entire programming platform and is in heavy use in places you may not even see it. Like I said before, there is no justifiable reason to not support standards (even if for backwards compatibility) even if they suck. Also, Apple is not supporting OGV (ogg video), something I noticed when trying to watch a video using the video tagged version of archive.com.

[RayB]

FYI, Flash supports h.264. That's partly why FLV and VP6 is seen as declining.

[NiN^_^NiN]

Im liking this android Tablet

http://zedomax.com/blog/2010/05/04/android-multi-touch-tablet-prototype-hands-on-review-web-2-0-expo/

Id be tempted to buy one of these depending on the finished product

[Blanka]

Im liking this android Tablet Cheesy

I hope the final version is not going to be sold with chopped-off bottom  
And I really doubt any other tabletmaker will include an IPS of PVA screen. Guess we better put time in getting Android to work on iPad instead of Apples own crap-drm-OSX, then to hope someone else will make comparable hardware.

[Level42]

Im liking this android Tablet

http://zedomax.com/blog/2010/05/04/android-multi-touch-tablet-prototype-hands-on-review-web-2-0-expo/

Id be tempted to buy one of these depending on the finished product

Very unimpressive.

[patrickl]

Im liking this android Tablet Cheesy

I hope the final version is not going to be sold with chopped-off bottom  
And I really doubt any other tabletmaker will include an IPS of PVA screen. Guess we better put time in getting Android to work on iPad instead of Apples own crap-drm-OSX, then to hope someone else will make comparable hardware.

Trouble is that the iPad is the one with the inferior hardware. No USB, no HDMI, no card slot, no camera, poor network connectivity, overheating problems, not enough memory, underpowered processor (so you'll have to recode your Full HD movies), 4:3 screen instead of widescreen etc etc etc. It's just not very good. So there is a lot that the dozens of upcoming Android tablets can improve upon.

[NiN^_^NiN]

Im more impressed with the android tablets cause i can see the android OS working well on them.

There are a few android tablets ready for release soon

The Archos 5


eviGroup's MID Wallet


Ramos W7 Bluemagic


SmartQ V5 MID 1080P Player


MS Wind Android Tablet


There are a few more and i can't remember where i saw it but there also was one that was 10" and had a camera for skype in landscape mode which looked to work quite well too

I can see alot more promiss in the Android tablets and can see it being a better media device that will support more than the Ipad over a short time

But the most interesting one is the Notion Ink Adam
its just easier if i put this link up
http://mashable.com/2010/01/27/9-upcoming-tablet-alternatives-to-the-apple-ipad/

[RayB]

The interface/input has to be precise, responsive, and fluid, otherwise it's a no-go. And that last pic with the STYLUS made me LOL. A stylus? In 2010?! Seriously?

[Samstag]

The interface/input has to be precise, responsive, and fluid, otherwise it's a no-go. And that last pic with the STYLUS made me LOL. A stylus? In 2010?! Seriously?

How's the handwriting recognition on the ipad working for you?

[RayB]

The interface/input has to be precise, responsive, and fluid, otherwise it's a no-go. And that last pic with the STYLUS made me LOL. A stylus? In 2010?! Seriously?

How's the handwriting recognition on the ipad working for you?

Paper is much cheaper.

[Samstag]

The interface/input has to be precise, responsive, and fluid, otherwise it's a no-go. And that last pic with the STYLUS made me LOL. A stylus? In 2010?! Seriously?

How's the handwriting recognition on the ipad working for you?

Paper is much cheaper.

Are you saying you have paper that responds to touch inputs and can turn your scribbles into plain text to be saved to a file or sent as email?

Or is that your way of acknowledging that a stylus is sometimes useful?

[patrickl]

The interface/input has to be precise, responsive, and fluid, otherwise it's a no-go. And that last pic with the STYLUS made me LOL. A stylus? In 2010?! Seriously?

How's the handwriting recognition on the ipad working for you?

Paper is much cheaper.

Are you saying you have paper that responds to touch inputs and can turn your scribbles into plain text to be saved to a file or sent as email?

Or is that your way of acknowledging that a stylus is sometimes useful?

The Pulse smartpen from Livescribe sort of does that

http://www.livescribe.com/

A stylus has it's uses. It can prevent the need for zooming in and out, keeps your screen clean, doesn't get in the way so much as a big finger on the screen etc

[shmokes]

As a student, I LOVED the Pulse Smartpen.  I lost mine, though.  Much easier to lose than an iPad.

[patrickl]

As a student, I LOVED the Pulse Smartpen.  I lost mine, though.  Much easier to lose than an iPad.

Mine stopped working. Amazingly they sent me a new one free of charge. I took some insisting on my part, but still.

I sold a few other people on that pen so they owe me

I was wondering if the Courier could have replaced the Pulse pen though. Guess now I never will know, lol.

[RayB]

Are you saying you have paper that responds to touch inputs and can turn your scribbles into plain text to be saved to a file or sent as email?

Or is that your way of acknowledging that a stylus is sometimes useful?

If I need to hand-write, I will do it on paper. I don't know about you, but my PC has no stylus. I get along quite well with the keyboard. Stylus input is archaic unless you need to capture signatures.

[Epyx]

Anyone know if there is a comic book reader app available?  That would be another cool use for the Ipad as I have tons of comics in comic book reader format.

[NiN^_^NiN]

http://blog.bigtimewireless.com/comics-manga-ipad/

[patrickl]

Are you saying you have paper that responds to touch inputs and can turn your scribbles into plain text to be saved to a file or sent as email?

Or is that your way of acknowledging that a stylus is sometimes useful?

If I need to hand-write, I will do it on paper. I don't know about you, but my PC has no stylus. I get along quite well with the keyboard. Stylus input is archaic unless you need to capture signatures.

Does a tablet have a keyboard?

[patrickl]

Anyone know if there is a comic book reader app available?  That would be another cool use for the Ipad as I have tons of comics in comic book reader format.

There are plenty of CBR/CBZ readers availaible. Those are basically ARJ or ZIP files with JPEG images so making a reader is pretty easy.

My kid reads comic books on the netbook. Or at least he looks at the pictures.