Ford Recall

[Hoopz]

Hey Fordman:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Ford-adds-45M-vehicles-to-apf-2060014213.html?x=0

The latest voluntary action pushes Ford's total recall due to faulty switches to 14.3 million registered vehicles over 10 years, capping the company's largest cumulative recall in history involving a single problem.

How are you going to blame Mexico or foreign cars for this?

UAW=POS

And yes, my father-in-law is in the UAW....

[ChadTower]

Ford advised owners of all vehicles covered by the recall to park them outside until they are mailed instructions by the end of the month on how to get repairs.

Erm, yeah, don't go to work, bring your kids to school, or go grocery shopping.  Just park the thing... On the Road Dead.

 

[Hoopz]

We had an after market cruise package put on.  I dont know if it has the same switch in it since it's not from the manufacturer. 

[shardian]

Side bar: Ford stock is at around $8 now. Damn, I wish I would have bought when they were sub $2....

[Hoopz]

With your history of fire and cars, I'd stay away from that thing...even unplugged!   

[whammoed]

Hey Fordman:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Ford-adds-45M-vehicles-to-apf-2060014213.html?x=0

The latest voluntary action pushes Ford's total recall due to faulty switches to 14.3 million registered vehicles over 10 years, capping the company's largest cumulative recall in history involving a single problem.

How are you going to blame Mexico or foreign cars for this?

UAW=POS

And yes, my father-in-law is in the UAW....

I'm not defending it but whats a switch made by texas instruments got to do with the UAW?

[ChadTower]

With your history of fire and cars, I'd stay away from that thing...even unplugged!   

BURN!   

[Fordman]

I dont know why I'm getting flamed here, but a vendor part is to blame.

Did you see me posting on here about the 3.8 million toyota's that got recalled by a vendor part?

Vendor parts are to be assumed to be in perfect operational condition when received for installation. I'm sure the R&D of the switch at the time was at its best and now that additinal research has been done, the recall is voluntary. Yes, the switch was made by Texas Instruments. TI will be sporting the bill for this!

As for your jab at the UAW, what is your beef with the UAW? The UAW is my choice for labor representation. If you dont feel you need representation, then fine, continue to work for what the company feels you are worth and not you feel you are worth! The old school UAW is gone and the ever changed UAW in here. The UAW adapted before any of the Big 3 and 98% of the 'old skool' are retired and the mentallity has retired with them. Apparently you havent read the new terms of the new agreement reached just yesterday (10/13/09) which gives concessions to the company. With my UAW, I have a choice. With your non-Union shop or office, you have what they give you and nothing you can do about it but:
1) Whine, like 99% of non-Union workers do when the company takes something away.
2) Wonder where you went wrong with your "I dont need no one to stick up for me, I'll do it myself!" attitude
3) Think how you can screw the company, when in turn you really cant.
4) Talk yourself into quitting your job just to show your now ex-boss he cant do that to you!

I can go on and on.

There are many fine company's out there where Union repsentation isnt needed because they have figured out that a well compensated, promoted and 'patted on the back" employee is a happy employee and therefore puts in more than the required 110%, therefore is more profitable to the company rather than the disgruntled.

But, so many company's thought process is to belittle the workforce and remind them 'who is boss' mentality gets them minimal production and therefore cuts into the bottom line of profitability.

But Hoopz, I guess you wouldnt understand!

Remember, you picked the fight, not me!

 

Fordman

[Fordman]

Go to the dealer and they will have the recall on file. Now if it was an OEM factory installed part, then they will fix it free of charge. If it was an OEM kit, had installed by a dealer , then they will replace it. If it is OEM DIY kit, they might replace the kit, but I think you may be on your own for the re-install.

 

Fordman

[CheffoJeffo]

I dont know why I'm getting flamed here

I can go on and on.

I expect that you have your answer ...

[Hoopz]

Funny how TI says that they made it to Ford's specs.  Which company would you believe, one that has historically produced quality products or one that need a bailout to save themselves from a lack of planning?  I don't blame the UAW as much as management AND the UAW combined.  Between those to charlie foxtrots, they've destroyed that company.

Fordman, you must have taken your fair share of the UAW's koolaid, because your spouting the union line 100%.  Good for you!

[ChadTower]

Ford was not bailed out.

[Hoopz]

Ford was not bailed out.

Good point.  I forgot that they didnt need the money.

[ChadTower]

Because nobody actually expects GM to give any of that money back. 

[HaRuMaN]

Maybe I'm not understanding cruise control, but why would you send brake fluid through a cruise control switch?

[ChadTower]

Lack of cpu control over the brakes?

[Kevin Mullins]

Maybe I'm not understanding cruise control, but why would you send brake fluid through a cruise control switch?

From the article:

and that it is only one component of Ford's cruise control deactivation system

When you apply the brakes it automatically cuts off the cruise control.
This is the 'switch' that's being referred to.
It's more of a pressure switch than anything....apply brakes, fluid pressure activates switch, switch shuts off cruise control.

[TOK]

Hey Fordman:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Ford-adds-45M-vehicles-to-apf-2060014213.html?x=0

The latest voluntary action pushes Ford's total recall due to faulty switches to 14.3 million registered vehicles over 10 years, capping the company's largest cumulative recall in history involving a single problem.

How are you going to blame Mexico or foreign cars for this?

UAW=POS

And yes, my father-in-law is in the UAW....

Stuff happens. Toyota is having a huge recall for floor mats, and the design has actually resulted in a couple of deaths. What could be easier to design than a secured floor mat?

[Ed_McCarron]

Wow.  What an epitaph.

"Floored by a floormat."

[ChadTower]

I think that recall actually includes my truck.  I like my floormats!

[Fordman]

I'm just wondering if a BYOAC user was named 'Toyotaman' and all knew he worked for toyota if Hoopz would have made an 'in your face' type post about the 3.8 million toyota's & lexus's that were recalled 2 weeks ago? Or admit the tundra engine are junk? or admit the the Tacoma, some Corrolas & Matrix's are UAW made at NUMMI in California?

Oh, by the way Hoopz,

When I finally got out of bed this morning, contemplated coming to work. Then decided to motivate, I was ten minutes late, I didnt call the boss, I called the guys I work with to cover me, as I have covered them in the past. Then as I strolled into the building, I went to the cafeteria for breakfast and coffee, after an hour had past, I picked up my morning paper, stopped by the 'jon' to take a 'hoopz', looked myself in the mirror, gave the ole 'that-a-boy' to the reflection.

As I walk the assembly line, I stopped to talk to 6 others, they all had their heads behind the mid-morning paper or on their cell phones placing bets with their bookies. I pulled out a few bucks and said 'put 3 on Momma-Said in the fifth'.

As I finally made it to my work station, I threw my paper down on the floor. Yelled, 'Hey, where's my chair?'. The other guys laughed at me as they sit snuggly in their chairs. I looked around and mine had been used by the Union rep that stopped by to pat everyone on the back for 'doin their part'! I grabbed my chair, then the break bell rang!

I walked into the break room, grabbed a 3-pack of raspberry zingers, more coffee and opened up my paper. After a few minutes the words started blending together and out like a light, I was asleep. 3 hours and a drool mess later, I woke up! I stumbled back out to my work station, went to put on my work gloves, the lunch bell rings!

I took off my work gloves, walked back into the lunch room, grabbed a soy-burger, bag of chips and a large soda. Watched the noon news as it replays on the closed circuit television in the plant. After an hour of watching gloom & doom on the news, I walked to the 'jon' because the breakfast from earlier was being pushed out. A few minutes of taking another 'hoopz' and wipe it with a toyota advertisment, I felt so much better!

On with my work gloves, but I couldnt find my safety glasses. So I walked to the safety office that is on the other side of the plant. As I stroll to make my work day a safe day, I stopped to chat with a few and to see if my horse won in the fifth race. He didnt, so I opened up that big wad of cash again and placed another bet. After reading the Daily Racing Form, I walked back to my work station. The beak Bell rang!

I wondered back into the break room, grabbed a Hershey bar (to help with the 'Hoopz's) & coffee. I then grabbed a rather worn copy of Maxim, read it from cover to cover. Got up, walked out to my work station and forgot that I didnt get he safety glasses because I stopped to make a racing bet! Off the safety office I go. Halfway there, I stopped at the 'jon' again, swear I re-filled lake Michigan. Then the safety office was closed. Why would the safety office be closed? I got on my cell phone, called the Union office, they said the Safety guy was on vacation. It didnt matter anyway, shift was over in 10 minutes. I walked back to my work station, put my gloves back in the box, chained my chair to a pole and headed for the door! Just another typical day for myself and my co-workers!

I guess you believe all the stories like this that 'supposedly' happen at the Big 3 everyday? Let me tell you, the line stops and its not for a safety reason, you go home for 3 days! It's balls to the walls and you better be ready or the car behind you will go right up your ass!

Just thought I would share!

Fordman

[CheffoJeffo]

I'm just wondering if a BYOAC user was named 'Toyotaman' and all knew he worked for toyota if Hoopz would have made an 'in your face' type post about the 3.8 million toyota's & lexus's that were recalled 2 weeks ago? Or admit the tundra engine are junk? or admit the the Tacoma, some Corrolas & Matrix's are UAW made at NUMMI in California?

After careful consideration of Hoopz' character, and assuming that Toyotaman has posted in a manner similar to Fordman, I would have to say OF COURSE HE WOULD!!!

As I have said before, I have owned more Fords than any other brand of vehicle.

In my driveway you will find one Ford and one Toyota.

Listening to your non-stop barrage of crap against Toyota, coupled with the fact that the Toyota is the vehicle that both Mrs Cheffo and I prefer to drive (vehicles are comparable models), is enough to convince me that I don't really want to buy another Ford.

 

[CheffoJeffo]

Fordman makes me think the same thing about Toyotas....

Stop it -- that's twice this week that you have made me think that you may be more than just an obnoxious ---smurf---!

[Hoopz]

I'm just wondering if a BYOAC user was named 'Toyotaman' and all knew he worked for toyota if Hoopz would have made an 'in your face' type post about the 3.8 million toyota's & lexus's that were recalled 2 weeks ago? Or admit the tundra engine are junk? or admit the the Tacoma, some Corrolas & Matrix's are UAW made at NUMMI in California?

After careful consideration of Hoopz' character, and assuming that Toyotaman has posted in a manner similar to Fordman, I would have to say OF COURSE HE WOULD!!!

Hell yeah, I would. 

I have owned more Fords than any other brand of vehicle.

Me too.  My first was a '68 Mustang and I currently drive an '03 Windstar.

We all make mistakes.   
 

[CCM]

I like raspberry zingers...

I have owned 1 Ford in my life, and I don't think I would buy another.   I had nothing but trouble.

[Hoopz]

I like raspberry zingers...

I have owned 1 Ford in my life, and I don't think I would buy another.   I had nothing but trouble.

Don't blame the Zingers for that. 

Can't eat the raspberry ones as I don't like coconut. 

[TOK]

You know how if you listen to car enthusiasts and they'll just go on and on about how some quirk of their vehicle is better than a Porsche?

"0-60 faster in third gear than a Porsche!"

"shorter stopping distance at 30mph than a Porsche!"

"better handling in the rain than a Porsche!"

And it makes you wonder what these mythical Porches are that set the benchmark for everything?  And maybe you want to look at them rather than this Dodge Neon?

Fordman makes me think the same thing about Toyotas....

The Porsche 959 was the modern era car that started a lot of this for them. Porsche hasn't really been at the forefront of any of the performance numbers since the early 90's.

[ChadTower]

I agree that Fordman brings it on himself around here.  I skip his posts that are more than two paragraphs long - they are all about the same thing and may as well be a template.

[Fordman]

Then maybe I should break up my posts into mini posts so I can have 33,000 or so!

I didnt start the issue , Hoopz did, I just responded!

I guess i'll get back to being lazy and doin' nothin' all day!

Fordman

[ChadTower]

I love how people take shots at the post count like it means anything. 

Fordman doth protest way too much.

[CheffoJeffo]

I completely respect Fordman's loyalty, but shake my head at his repeated attacks on other car manufacturers and those who don't think that the sun shines out of the ass of the UAW.

He has a young man's passion and a young man's prejudice. I have an old man's experience and an old man's indifference.

As far as not starting the issue, it was pretty clear to me that Hoopz started this topic as a direct reponse to the anti-anything-other-than-Ford propaganda in order to get Fordman's goat.

Mission accomplished.

[Epyx]

I learned my lesson having owned both Toyota's and Fords and that is why I only buy Honda's...sorry couldn't resist

[syph007]

I learned my lesson having owned both Toyota's and Fords and that is why I only buy Honda's...sorry couldn't resist

My experience is close to yours, only GM and Ford before, Im on my first Honda now, and it's been great.  Though I admit Im not too knowledgable about cars in general, Im happy with the total cost of ownership.

Btw, this board was supposed to be no politics or religion.. seems like car brand choice is approaching this for some?  Maybe its where Im from or something, but I cant ever remember the topic of car brands coming up around here much.

[CheffoJeffo]

I learned my lesson having owned both Toyota's and Fords and that is why I only buy Honda's...sorry couldn't resist

     

Honda is #2 on my "number owned" list and #1 on my "never had a complaint" list.

[HaRuMaN]

Btw, this board was supposed to be no politics or religion.. seems like car brand choice is approaching this for some?  Maybe its where Im from or something, but I cant ever remember the topic of car brands coming up around here much.

Car brands didn't come up here very much... until a certain member joined up... *cough*fordman*cough*

[Hoopz]

I think the Mac v. PC debate is much more heated than the car threads.

[syph007]

I think the Mac v. PC debate is much more heated than the car threads.

Oh right, you mean like Macdonalds vs Popeys Chicken?

[HaRuMaN]

I think the Mac v. PC debate is much more heated than the car threads.

I like the 3rd option...  Linux

[Kevin Mullins]

Car manufacturers..... they've all had their share of good and bad ..... if people want to debate good "brands" they need to be more specific to years and models.
There's not a "brand" out there that I haven't seen a "crap" model from.

[Fordman]

Car manufacturers..... they've all had their share of good and bad ..... if people want to debate good "brands" they need to be more specific to years and models.
There's not a "brand" out there that I haven't seen a "crap" model from.

Thank You Kevin Mullins!

It seems as if in the media, only the asian brands are without fault and any time a D3 brand has the slightest ding, the people and media jump all over it.

They all have their faults, the asian brands are experiencing them now!

Pinto and Gremlin, both were terrible cars! The recent 500/Taurus debacle, nice-comfy-safe ride, but awful to the eye! The Mercury Merkur, terible terible terible!

Fordman