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Questions for seasoned Zinc users.
« on: April 29, 2009, 01:23:43 pm »
So I've got Zinc all set up and running.  I'm able to configure controls and all that.  I'm testing with Tekken 1-3 and I'm having issues.  They seem like general emulation errors, but I'm suprised no one has mentioned anything about them in the past (I've done a lot of searching).

In Tekken 1, some of the spoken sounds aren't right.  For instance, when you lose a game, the announcer counts down from 10 to 1, waiting for you to insert a coin.  In Zinc, the announcer will say "One" for each of the numbers instead of "Ten, Nine, Eight..." 

In Tekken 2, I can only get the game to run with an older ROM, and all of the sound is warped.  Spoken sound sounds like it's being spoken by someone with a speech impedement.  Also, when someone wins a match in a two player game, no matter what character it is, the announcer says "Kazuya Mishima wins". 

What's funny is, I can use Mame Plus Plus, and most of these sound issues go away, which is weird because I thought Mame Plus Plus just compiled in the Zinc source.  It even fixes the loud sound bleches at the start of matches in Tekken 3.  Also, I can use a newer ROM for Tekken 2 with Mame Plus Plus in which the sound is not warped. 

Anyone else having these issues with Zinc?
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Re: Questions for seasoned Zinc users.
« Reply #1 on: April 29, 2009, 10:05:47 pm »
I've only recently Zinc running well after an upgrade and I had noticed a few sound glitches in Tekken 3. But I went and checked and yes, I have the same issues with Tekken 1's countdown - "One. One. One." etc.

I also have some sound issues with Tekken 3 at the start of matches, it doesn't bother me too much and to be honest I've spent most of the time playing Tekken 3 on the Playstation emulator as it is nice and fast and doesn't have any of those glitches.

I hadn't realised that the Tekkens were emulated in MAME (I'm a lot behind in my MAME versions - 0.99) but if that's the case, why not just run it through MAME instead?

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Re: Questions for seasoned Zinc users.
« Reply #2 on: April 30, 2009, 12:14:45 am »
I hadn't realised that the Tekkens were emulated in MAME (I'm a lot behind in my MAME versions - 0.99) but if that's the case, why not just run it through MAME instead?

Cause frankly, Tekken and Tekken 2 look like ass in MAME.  Blurry, jaggy, ass.  I understand that underneath the hood the emulations are way better than what Zinc does... but for all the the accuracy that MAME has... the arcade versions did not look like that.  If there's some trick to making them look nicer, please, somebody clue me in. 

Zinc isn't accurate at all either, but I'll take the slicker, hardware accelerated visuals over what MAME produces.  For some reason though, Tekken 3 looks pretty dang good in MAME.  Wish my PC could run it at better than 70% speed.

Thanks for sanity checking what I was seeing :)
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Re: Questions for seasoned Zinc users.
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2009, 06:00:10 am »
I got sick of mame's blurry look, and made a small change in mame.ini

Look for Filter and change it to 0

The result has no blurring but can look pixelated, depending on circumstances.

Zinc hasn't been updated for about 4 years and is most likely a dead project.

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Re: Questions for seasoned Zinc users.
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 04:21:50 am »
OOOOOoooo I never knew about this option. That mame blur is ugly as hell. For all their "trying to stay true to the original programming" it definitely does not seem to mirror their philosophy by blurring the crap out of everything.