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« on: May 29, 2008, 02:58:12 am »


saw the new movie last night. opeing scene had me thinking 'this is gonna be great'. but it never got any better. just didnt grab me. maybe its because they cant recreate me being 11 again...


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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2008, 09:34:58 am »
I really enjoyed it, despite some stupid CG animal inserts, and just too much CGI in general. If there's two franchises that should do everything practical, it's Bond and Indy.

There were plenty of dumb moments, but overall I liked it. The motorcycle chase was excellent. The fridge was a funny scene, though highly implausible. (But so are aliens...)

I'd love to have seen Frank Darabont's script instead. David Koepp didn't quite nail it.

Harrison Ford DID nail it, though. Man, I hope I'm half as agile at that age....

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« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2008, 09:53:57 am »
Well . . . lets not forget about stunt doubles  :P  I know that Ford has a reputation for doing many of his own stunts, but . . .

I haven't seen it yet, personally.  Wanted to go last weekend, but couldn't get a babysitter.
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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2008, 10:36:37 am »
I haven't seen it yet, personally.  Wanted to go last weekend, but couldn't get a babysitter.

I count myself lucky - our baby has been to the movies on multiple occasions and has never been a problem. She sleeps thru most of it, even now in the toddler stage. We'll still mostly stick with grandma babysitting for the most part now.

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2008, 10:56:02 am »
Well . . . lets not forget about stunt doubles  :P  I know that Ford has a reputation for doing many of his own stunts, but . . .

When you see it, you'll see the scenes where it's very clearly him doing his own work in this movie. There are plenty of times where you say, "Oh, that's a double," but you'll be more impressed the times when you go, "Whoa, that was all him!"

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2008, 11:26:34 am »
maybe its because they cant recreate me being 11 again...

Bingo!

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« Reply #6 on: May 29, 2008, 11:41:15 am »
maybe its because they cant recreate me being 11 again...

Bingo!

If done right, there is no reason a new take on retro can't recreate the "newness" of being a kid again. They didn't do it right, plain and simple.

Would Spielberg have done it right? Most likely. Too bad he had to be in halfsies with Lucas. Lucas is so ridiculously obsessed with cgi, that he has thrown all other aspects to making great movies overboard.

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #7 on: May 29, 2008, 02:36:32 pm »
Did anyone else notice the ewok cameo?
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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2008, 03:39:54 pm »
No but I did notice Indy's whip replaced with a flashlight.

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2008, 03:59:56 pm »
maybe its because they cant recreate me being 11 again...

Bingo!

If done right, there is no reason a new take on retro can't recreate the "newness" of being a kid again. They didn't do it right, plain and simple.

Would Spielberg have done it right? Most likely. Too bad he had to be in halfsies with Lucas. Lucas is so ridiculously obsessed with cgi, that he has thrown all other aspects to making great movies overboard.

I have to disagree on that.  As we've gotten older, our abilities to use our imaginations and whisk ourselves away into a land we haven't been to before is lessened.  With an addition to a series, no director/producer/actor on Earth can remove those naive memories we had as children or younger people.  With a brand new series, yes, it is possible.  But for series which have been in existance for a while already, it just can't be done.  I don't care how good of a director/actor/producer someone is.  You can not reproduce the naivity and blissful ignorance that we all had as children.  As a kid, you can believe that the sheets you strung over a bunch of boxes put you into a mystical castle with superhuman powers.  As an adult, it just doesn't work.
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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2008, 04:29:52 pm »
As an adult, it just doesn't work.

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« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2008, 04:48:04 pm »
Saw it.  It was OK.  I'd give it a 7/10 on a Friz scale of 1-10.  There was some REALLY stupid ideas used (the refrigerator scene was so insanely full of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- for example)... and there were some screw ups (L.E.D.s in the 1950's in the "jet car" scene?!?).   The monkey scene was just absolutely horrid.   Are we supposed to think that TARZAN Jr can swing on vines faster than cars can drive? 

Harrison looked old...because,  well,  HE IS.  The kid from Transformers tried way too hard... please lord PLEASE end the series with this one.  The last thing I'd like to see is Indy Jr with Transformers guy in it.  He just not a very good actor (though I thought he was OK in Disturbia).

Finally,  I understand why they brought Karen Allen back,  but damn,  she hit the wall about 15 years ago.  The least they could have done was offset her "beat-downness" with something else to look at (perhaps a love interest for Indy Jr?).
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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2008, 05:23:29 pm »
I saw that and Iron Man this past weekend.  Both movies sported the "fall hundreds, if not thousands of feet onto solid earth and be perfectly fine."  But Indy trumped it with a nuclear blast!

I guess we just have to assume that movie characters have rubber for a bone structure.  Other than those scenes, I enjoyed them both.
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« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 06:50:31 pm »
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« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2008, 12:18:06 am »
My 4 year old has been seeing all the advertisements on TV.  I decided to rent the previous Indy's and man, was he impressed.......all the hype and mola ram is his favorite!

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2008, 12:30:44 am »
My 4 year old has been seeing all the advertisements on TV.  I decided to rent the previous Indy's and man, was he impressed.......all the hype and mola ram is his favorite!

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that is cool to hear  :)

i forget that there are a new batch of kids to love this movie. on the nit-picking side, did anyone notice the harley? didnt seem like a 50's bike to me. half the time i could swear i could see a brake master reservoir on the handlebars. it could be that the real deal didnt look big enough (i remember the first time i saw a WLA, parked next to my trail bike. it looked tiny). but still. i forgive them using a modern bike in 'the great escape' to do the jumping scene, but this is different...

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2008, 05:00:20 am »
Did anyone else notice the ewok cameo?

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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2008, 08:16:36 am »
Here is the Ewok in question:

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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2008, 10:04:18 am »
Are they going to drag Nick Nolte out of nowhere for Beverly Hills Cop 4?  If not,  I won't watch.

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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2008, 10:11:44 am »
I wasnt very pleased with the new Indy, but the worst part in my opinion is when George ripped off Super Metroid with Shia in the trees.


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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2008, 10:24:32 am »
Yeah, I'm sure Super Metroid was exactly what he was thinking....

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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2008, 10:40:09 am »
I don't know which is funnier, your completely missing the joke, or that you felt compelled to post 12 rolling eyes.

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2008, 10:53:23 am »
Are they going to drag Nick Nolte out of nowhere for Beverly Hills Cop 4?  If not,  I won't watch.


Your thinking of 48 hours because he wasn't in any of the Beverly Hills Cop movies.

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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2008, 11:51:40 am »
I don't know which is funnier, your completely missing the joke, or that you felt compelled to post 12 rolling eyes.

The multitude of eye rolls was my way of over-doing it because I knew you were kidding, and treated you like you were serious.

You missed my point.  :cheers:

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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2008, 11:56:23 am »
Are they going to drag Nick Nolte out of nowhere for Beverly Hills Cop 4?  If not,  I won't watch.


Your thinking of 48 hours because he wasn't in any of the Beverly Hills Cop movies.

Well, then that would explain his appearance "outta nowhere".

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2008, 12:14:30 pm »

I count myself lucky - our baby has been to the movies on multiple occasions and has never been a problem. She sleeps thru most of it, even now in the toddler stage. We'll still mostly stick with grandma babysitting for the most part now.

I won't do that for a few reasons.  First, the jackasses that run movie theaters often turn the sound way too high, especially in action movies.  Infant ears drums are still developing and are far easier to damage than those of adults or even kids who are three or four years old.  Second, I hate when I have paid a lot of money to have a movie experience, only to be sucked out of it into reality when someone's baby starts crying.  And most people try to make their kid stop crying because they don't want to miss any of the movie, so everyone just has to put up with at least 30 seconds, if not a minute or more of crying baby before a parent finally takes the baby out.  Third, like those parents who don't immediately take their baby out, I don't like missing five or ten minute portions of movies that I have paid a lot of money to see, which is exactly what happens once you take the kid out.  I especially don't like doing this over and over again when a kid starts crying over and over, as they are wont to do once they've decided they don't want to be sitting in the dark room doing nothing anymore.  I also don't want to subject the rest of the room to my repeated in-out routine with the crying kid.  Cos most of them are probably like me, and don't like to have their expensive experience ruined by someone who couldn't get a sitter.  It's discourteous.  I think there are simply things that you give up to have a kid, and if I wasn't ready to give them up, I shouldn't have had a kid.  One of those things is being able to go see a movie without first hiring a sitter.

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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2008, 12:42:51 pm »
My 4 year old has been seeing all the advertisements on TV.  I decided to rent the previous Indy's and man, was he impressed.......all the hype and mola ram is his favorite!

Did your 4 year old enjoy the part where he rips the guy's still beating heart out of his chest?   :dizzy:   :laugh2:

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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2008, 12:51:09 pm »
Young kids ALWAYS pick Temple of Doom as the favorite. Mainly because of Short Round, and the Monkey Brains desert.  ;D

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2008, 01:58:17 pm »
Young kids ALWAYS pick Temple of Doom as the favorite. Mainly because of Short Round, and the Monkey Brains desert.  ;D

It was my favorite as a kid, but it was the first one I saw at the movies, as well. (I don't know why we didn't go see Raiders....I didn't see it until the late eighties!)

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Skull (though I loved Skull and thought it was better than Crusade at first, but that soon wore off...)

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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2008, 02:54:43 pm »
The dvd player had a untimely fast foward malfunction for that part if you know what I mean.   
My 4 year old has been seeing all the advertisements on TV.  I decided to rent the previous Indy's and man, was he impressed.......all the hype and mola ram is his favorite!

Did your 4 year old enjoy the part where he rips the guy's still beating heart out of his chest?   :dizzy:   :laugh2:
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« Reply #30 on: June 02, 2008, 03:20:15 am »
The movie sucked, the dialogue was Lucas all over again, and it was way too rushed.  Aliens and John Hurt is never a good mix.  :laugh2:

The movie theatre had the sound cut off in chase scenes, and it was out of focus at the bottom and clear on the top of the screen.  Add the cool effect they used to thwart the movie camcorders, and you can think it was a sucky movie.

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #31 on: June 02, 2008, 03:13:15 pm »
I saw this movie yesterday. Overall, I didnt like it. It did not live up to the Indy movies before.
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« Reply #32 on: June 02, 2008, 10:20:59 pm »
I vehemently disagree with the assessment of Karen Allen - I didn't expect her to look that goodl at her age!  I love her smile! 

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« Reply #33 on: June 03, 2008, 08:23:31 am »
I vehemently disagree with the assessment of Karen Allen - I didn't expect her to look that goodl at her age!  I love her smile! 

Well, it was only when she finally smiled that she looked good. At first she wasn't, and she looked Margot Kidder levels of bad.

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #34 on: June 03, 2008, 12:54:11 pm »
Looks like the new movie has spawned the term "Nuke the Fridge" which is similar to "Jump the Shark", but refers to a film series instead of a television series.

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Re: indiana jones
« Reply #35 on: June 03, 2008, 05:14:24 pm »
it was horrible.  like I didnt have high hopes for the film when they mentioned the whole crystal skull thing..... yeah it didnt even live up to lowered expectations. I'd rather watch cheerleader ninjas
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