had my first taste of n64

[ChadTower]

For $10?

[Malenko]

I got stuck on Zelda 64 (thats what I always called the first one) I remember where too, in the ice/water temple where you had to use the grappling hook to get around, I just got puzzled and frustrated and quit, but it was and is still an incredible game.  Mario 64 has to be the greatest launch/pack in title ever. If I still had my 64, Id definitely be playing the shizzz out of it.


As for Tommy.... he's not making any sense. You cant honestly think a game released in 11/98 would have high res textures. And its actually quite sad that you cant play through and enjoy some of the greatest games of all time just because you think they are ugly. I am all about eye candy, simply put, I LOVE IT, but Id much rather play a less attractive game thats fun and entertaining over a beautiful game that plays like a turd.


I completely agree with pretty much everything sad about that above, why even be on this board if enjoying old games is such a hassle for you? Don't give me that MAME BS either, MAME is emulating old games taking the place of the hardware; by your argument you'd be fine playing Zelda on an emulator because since its an emulator they aren't making any games for it anymore but not ok playing on an actual piece of hardware. sheer insanity , immaturity, or both.

That's a foolish thing to say.  Ten years from now the games will look much better than they do now, and some ignorant young punk will use the same argument against you when you bring up the great games you loved in the good ol' days of 2007, when the graphics weren't so hot but it was the gameplay that mattered!

    

[ChadTower]

Eli Manning has very poor texturing and he doesn't run that fast.

[tommy]

As for Tommy.... he's not making any sense. You cant honestly think a game released in 11/98 would have high res textures.

You obviously just jumped in here without reading a damn thing. I said there is no reason to NOW play this game when there is so many more better looking and playing games to play. I did not think they were ready to go 3d at that time and i still say that now, but it was good for the time if you can overlook the graphics.  Believe it or not i was saying at that time that the games were definitely different and a change, but still too blocky.

[ChadTower]

There are almost zero better playing games.  You can stop saying that now.  A list of better playing games than both Mario 64 and OOT can be counted on the fingers of an epileptic machinist.

[tommy]

The gamecube versions of both those game play and look better then the N64 versions. Mario Kart DD and Zelda TP or WW.

[ChadTower]

Neither TP or WW is as good a game as OOT.

No game on the GC can see the place from where you can see Mario 64 on the mountain.  And I say that as a huge GC fan.

[tommy]

Neither TP or WW is as good a game as OOT.

You must be outa your damn mind. 

[ChadTower]

Yep... it was all that stupid sailing in WW.  That was real compelling play, lemme tell ya.

[tommy]

It's called an ADVENTURE game. You can say that about any adventure game or any game period. All that damn walking in Mario, all that damn back tracking in Resident evil, all that damn walking in OOT. That's the nature of the beast. At least it was something new in WW. 

God forbid you have to walk or move in a direction without having to hack and slash a few enemies for a short while.

[ChadTower]

There was entirely too much of it.  That makes it a less compelling game.

[Malenko]

Wind Waker sucked.  I read the entire thread and posted accordingly.

There is a reason to play Mario and Zelda on the N64, they are to this day still amazing games. Same reason I play MAME, so I can play great games from back in the day.If I had the hardware Id play it on them instead. the fact its a console doesn't mean anything, and the fact there are newer consoles available means even less. Games are games and if they are truly great they will stand the test of time.

I honestly do feel sorry for you, that you cant enjoy a well made fun game like Mario 64 just because it came out in 1996.Heck I just finished a rousing battle of Galaga (came out in 1981) yeah the ship and enemies are made of square pixels but damn if it doesnt look and play great (I prefer the rapid shot hack); Im so glad I can enjoy ugly old games like that.

heres the best example of newer "better looking" versions of games arent always better:
Command and Conquer : Red Alert Yuri's Revenge  VS Command on Conquer Generals

[hypernova]

That's the nature of the beast. At least it [sailing] was something new in WW. 

So as I understand it...you're ok with a boat, but not on feet?  Are you aware of the fact that while you are on a boat in WW, it takes an eternity just to get from one point to another because the world was just scaled FAR too large, while in SM64, you traversed a rather small castle, and the small worlds within it?  In OOT, the world wasn't NEAR the size of WW, and you could retrieve a horse dang near instantaneously in the future, making travel between points fairly quick...not to mention warp songs.

I still have WW...and I just can't bring myself to play it a second time because of sailing.  It's a chore.  I'd rather do laundry, dishes, AND mow the grass.

TP is close personally, but not quite OOT.

I remember where too, in the ice/water temple where you had to use the grappling hook to get around, I just got puzzled and frustrated and quit, but it was and is still an incredible game.

You probably missed the hole that opened up under the water when you raised it in the center area.  That dungeon was easily the hardest on that game, IMO.

If anyone has a chance to get the Master Quest GC disc, do it.  It's near playing a fresh game.

I enjoyed the Shadow Mario worlds on SMS, but other than that, the blue coins were a bit too tedious to be fun.  SM64 still reigns.

[Malacus]

haha, i really liked wind waker! The sailing was pretty dumb though, untill you could warp places. I thought Twilight Princess was good, but it... idk... lacked something... side quests? maybe i missed them :-P

I like cell shading, it makes things look cleaner, but i can see where some people would rather the more realistic textures over them.

I thought that new super mario brothers game on DS - which is a newer game and system - were absolute piss. Couldnt stand the 3d brothers on the 2d backgrounds. Just seemed wrong...

-Mal

I think Capt. Lou should go back to being Mario's voice actor I loved that show - even picked the first season up on dvd O_o

Which brings up a good question, Why are Mario and Link mute while Luigi and Zelda never shut the hell up?

[danny_galaga]

Ive never once thought OoT looked like crap, thats just crazy talk!
Who gives a rats ass about the textures? They had to cram a ton of stuff onto those tiny little carts just so we didnt have load times.

literally cram too. just another cool thing about solid state. zelda feels markedly heavier than wave race for instance. more chips n stuff i guess...

well, i caved in today and bought a new aftermarket controller at game traders. they are the only wholely australian owned games shop. whats cool about them is they sell old console stuff too, and new aftermarket accesories to suit. they have a chinese hand held NES for $50 for instance.

the joy is made by myiicco. i bought clear black. here is a grey one at ztnet:

http://www.ztnetstore.com/product_info.php/cPath/23/products_id/193

i bought this controller because on close inspection i could see that outwardly they had basically ripped off the joystick design. but looking closely i could see that all the moving/sliding parts that wear out on the original are made of metal on this! so i tried it out today. it feels ok. the springs feels weird compared to the original though. the original is well balanced and the further you push, the more tension there is. on this aftermarket one, the tension builds to maybe half way and falls off again. so it kind of 'gives' or topples. im going to continue test driving this. ive already cut down my lap times in wave race and can actually do a few stunts WHEN i want to!

it looks to me like the joy (if you wanted) will fit straight into an original controller, except that when i got it home i could see that there isnt a plug on the end of the joy wiring, so you'd have to take the lead off your old joy if you were going to swap it. the only reaon to swap it out though would be if the 'sawn off handles' of the controller (its more of a T than an M) irked you. but so far it feels fine.

[danny_galaga]

well, had a zelda day today. im going back to work next week so i thought id give this game the attention it deserves. i must say im really enjoying it. very compelling. getting an idea of what actions are possible (lighting deku sticks to reignite other lamps or burning webs for instance)but i managed to get stuck in one of the lower levels of the tree. im not keen to find the answer on the net. but now ive got an idea of how it goes im looking forward to the big adventure (",). im guessing games like baldurs gate owes heavily to this game.
i also had a good shot at banjo kazooie a few nights ago but it didnt grab me the same way this has. maybe once ive finished zelda ill give banjo another go...

[SithMaster]

the second time i played oot i messed up in the tree (bottom most level) and had to restart the game i think or i had to go back a save.  i havent played in a while so im not sure on the gamesaves.

let us know how it goes.

[shardian]

the second time i played oot i messed up in the tree (bottom most level) and had to restart the game i think or i had to go back a save.  i havent played in a while so im not sure on the gamesaves.

let us know how it goes.

The worst F-up I ever had in an RPG was on Dragon Warrior III or IV (can't remember for sure). I made it to the cloud castle to fight the final boss, and ended up realizing I wasn't powerful enough to beat the boss, or make it back to civilization. That SUCKED to have all that time invested for nothing.

[danny_galaga]

just a lil update on what ive picked up so far:



and the carts:



i think 20 oughta keep me occupied for a while  . although if i can get conkers cheap i will...

edit: at least that new carpet i was bitching about makes a nice background for the pics (",)

[hypernova]

I'm impressed especially with your CCC.

Controller Color Coordination

Agreed...those games will hold you off for a loooong time.

[tommy]

There is something better about collecting cartridges compared to just CD's i think.

[pointdablame]

There is something better about collecting cartridges compared to just CD's i think.

I agree.  It's totally illogical really, but I prefer having carts and "collecting" them over CDs

[sosuke]

i think 20 oughta keep me occupied for a while  . although if i can get conkers cheap i will...

If you have an xbox I would suggest you get Conker's BFD for that. I have both and the xbox version is much nicer. Of course if you really just want to collect carts, well to each his own. 

[danny_galaga]

i think 20 oughta keep me occupied for a while  . although if i can get conkers cheap i will...

If you have an xbox I would suggest you get Conker's BFD for that. I have both and the xbox version is much nicer. Of course if you really just want to collect carts, well to each his own. 

if you had followed this from the beginning you would know that ive never owned any other console. im not just 'collecting' carts. the N64 IS my games machine (",)

[ChadTower]

I've been playing through the Xbox version of Conker.  The controls are seriously wonky.  I may jump to the N64 version if the controls are better on that one.

[sosuke]

i think 20 oughta keep me occupied for a while  . although if i can get conkers cheap i will...

If you have an xbox I would suggest you get Conker's BFD for that. I have both and the xbox version is much nicer. Of course if you really just want to collect carts, well to each his own. 

if you had followed this from the beginning you would know that ive never owned any other console. im not just 'collecting' carts. the N64 IS my games machine (",)

Sorry I somehow completely missed that part of your first post. Get Conker on the 64 then It is one of the funniest games you'll ever play.

[danny_galaga]

i think 20 oughta keep me occupied for a while  . although if i can get conkers cheap i will...

If you have an xbox I would suggest you get Conker's BFD for that. I have both and the xbox version is much nicer. Of course if you really just want to collect carts, well to each his own. 

if you had followed this from the beginning you would know that ive never owned any other console. im not just 'collecting' carts. the N64 IS my games machine (",)

Sorry I somehow completely missed that part of your first post. Get Conker on the 64 then It is one of the funniest games you'll ever play.

ok, its on its way to me! along with diddy kong racing. i have hardly had a chance to play in the last few weeks. once my bank balance recovers from recent excesses ill get a tv for my bedroom. then my housemate will never see me again! one game i dont think ill ever be playing on the console is paper mario:

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230163026738&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=013

thats crazy!