had my first taste of n64

[hypernova]

Perfect Dark's solo missions are phenomenal.  Blows Goldeneye away.  Weapon training is pretty fun too.  It's hard to get Goldeneye lovers to like the multiplayer though.  We had that problem at work, and I don't know why.  The multiplayer is great if you can get over the "it's not Goldeneye" hump.  Sure, grenade launchers and lacing proximities EVERYWHERE on GE is fun, but so is PD!

And try to beat all 30 challenges.  (I gave up on the last one.  Though to be fair, I never really tried for days on end.)

[danny_galaga]

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[danny_galaga]

The N64 is definitely a pain to troubleshoot like that.  Another hard one to diagnose is a bad jumper pak.

yeah, i gave the cart contacts a good clean with some 300 grit wet and dry and some silver polish















only kidding    methylated spirits and a cotton tip... ill bear in mind jumper/memory pack/power supply problems too. good to know ahead of time what plays up.

i see what all the discussion is about now. first game i played was cruisin usa. i found it quite tedious. could only get to the second stage (san francisco). too many things hitting me    . AND the graphics didnt seem that impressive. and whats up with that chick that gives you the trophy? is her leg broken or something? THEN i played wave race. woah! that rocks! chad, you certainly are right about the colours. they really make good use of it. hardly notice the blockiness of the rider at all. AND i could play it! thats gotta be a candidate for the wii. ill be giving that a damn good thrashing. then i have banjo kazooie. i have carts coming in dribs and drabs from all over including the UK so theyll trickle in over the next few weeks. funny, the first game i bought was on its own to tide me over- it hasnt arrived yet!

i cant believe that the odd wal mart has a game or two! i surreptitiously had a look around the other day at different shops. wasnt going to ask in case they laughed at me    cool thing is i found a second hand record shop that had a couple of games. they also had a bally fireball.

http://www.ipdb.org/machine.cgi?id=852

 still set on 20c    with a placard that said if you crack 2 million points you get 3 free cds! i could only manage 250,000 though. this new interest of mine is sure netting some new and diverse experiences...

[ChadTower]

Keep in mind Waverace was either a launch title or a very very early title, too.

[tommy]

Keep in mind the gamecube has much better games with much better graphics too.

[Malacus]

keep in mind the Gamecube wasnt available in 1996 O_o

-mal

[tommy]

keep in mind the Gamecube wasnt available in 1996 O_o

-mal

Oh, was this thread started in 96? 

[Buddabing]

Majora's Mask may require it, I don't remember, and if so that makes it a must have. 

It does.

Danny, make sure you check out Goldeneye and Banjo-Kazooie.

[danny_galaga]

Keep in mind the gamecube has much better games with much better graphics too.

keep in mind the ps3 has even BETTER graphics!

what you have to keep in mind is my earlier statement that i really love solid state stuff. so the n64 appeals. the only solid state console that would be better i imagine would be the neo geo. but hey, im not made of money 

budda, i have banjo. im in no rush to try them. id rather work at each game for a while before trying the next (except for that bloody cruisin  ) . more like back in the day too, since who had 10 or more games straight up? usually you would have the one that came with the console. play it to death, then save some money and buy another. then play that to death (or at least thats what my friends did). so ill be playing wave race for a bit longer before i go to banjo, but i anticipate enjoying it (",)

[danny_galaga]

anyone ever seen this?

http://ultimateconsoledatabase.com/modern/nintendo_ique.htm

chinese market only apparently...

[ChadTower]

what you have to keep in mind is my earlier statement that i really love solid state stuff. so the n64 appeals. the only solid state console that would be better i imagine would be the neo geo. but hey, im not made of money 

It's really not, anyway.  The Neo Geo console stuff is no where near worth what it cost then or now... especially to arcade people who can get a 1 slot cheap.  I have one now that I never use that I'm about to sell.  The N64 almost straight across the board is more fun and better games, and where the Neo Geo can match, there is often a reasonable N64 port of the game.  In terms of cost (very low) and availability, N64 is really the sweet spot on console gaming right now. 

[danny_galaga]

got a couple more carts in the mail today- laylat wars (star fox) and perfect dark. ill really get into lylat i think but the big surprise is that i think im going to lose a lot of time with perfect dark too (",) ive never been much of a fps fan. admired the technology, but i hated all the keyboard commands on a pc. also, with that perspective and sitting close to a monitor i would actually feel a bit ill. too claustrophobic! but lounging on a couch with all the buttons i need in one controller...

[ChadTower]

When I left the house this morning my sons were focused hard on Zelda OOT... they try so hard but they're just not up to that type of game yet.

[NightGod]

How old are your kids? My son really got into OoT type games at about 7-8 years old.

[ChadTower]

5 and 8, but the older one is a less serious gamer personality and wouldn't stick with the game long enough to get out of the village.

[tommy]

5 and 8, but the older one is a less serious gamer personality and wouldn't stick with the game long enough to get out of the village.

 

Heh, i gave up on that blurry game too and never made it out of the village. It just does not look good enough to play.

[ChadTower]

Something must be wrong with your TV, bro.  It's clear as crystal on a reasonable TV with S video.

[shardian]

Something must be wrong with your TV, bro.  It's clear as crystal on a reasonable TV with S video.

Nah, it's just he's a Giants fan. The reason it was blurry was because he couldn't stop crying about his crappy team.

[tommy]

This is how it looks for you as it does for me, this is what you call clear. Having blurry washed out textures, it's not playable and look horrible.

[ChadTower]

Sharidan, that is COLD.   

So tommy, textures are the primary requirement for you to play?  OOT is one of the best games ever designed.

[tommy]

So tommy, textures are the primary requirement for you to play?  OOT is one of the best games ever designed.

So now you can see the horribleness after i show you a pic, I've been saying this for many posts now only for you to call me and my TV crazy or broken. Now you just take another stand on the "those are the only games i can play that look good" after looking like an ass for saying it looks just fine. 

Yes, i only play games that both play and look great.

[ChadTower]

I still say you are crazy, or misguided at least, on this topic.

Why would someone who is such a supposed snob be on a board dedicated to classic arcade games?  None of them meet the standards you are laying out.  Not a single one.

[shardian]

So tommy, textures are the primary requirement for you to play?  OOT is one of the best games ever designed.

So now you can see the horribleness after i show you a pic, I've been saying this for many posts now only for you to call me and my TV crazy or broken. Now you just take another stand on the "those are the only games i can play that look good" after looking like an ass for saying it looks just fine. 

Yes, i only play games that both play and look great.

I hate to break this to you, but if your cherished ps3 games were designed for standard res tv's they would look the same way in the distance.

and I REALLY feel sorry for you that you didn't enjoy these games back in the day because they "weren't clear enough." I guess you never played half-life either, you know because it was pixelated, and they cheated with static bitmaps for backgrounds. What a crappy game...

[Samstag]

So tommy, textures are the primary requirement for you to play?  OOT is one of the best games ever designed.

So now you can see the horribleness after i show you a pic, I've been saying this for many posts now only for you to call me and my TV crazy or broken. Now you just take another stand on the "those are the only games i can play that look good" after looking like an ass for saying it looks just fine. 

Yes, i only play games that both play and look great.

That's a foolish thing to say.  Ten years from now the games will look much better than they do now, and some ignorant young punk will use the same argument against you when you bring up the great games you loved in the good ol' days of 2007, when the graphics weren't so hot but it was the gameplay that mattered!

[ChadTower]

Plus, the PS3 doesn't have a game that even comes close to being 50% of the gameplay quality of OOT.  What good is playing pretty games that aren't any fun?

[danny_galaga]

and look. geez, the guys head isnt even connected to his body! what a dumb game...

[danny_galaga]

ive started on banjo now. the controller is a bit loose so its getting a bit hard to advance in pilot wings (yeah, yeah. blaming the tools...). so i figure like chad said, that games like mario and banjo it isnt so critical.

i actually received another nintendo controller, new in the box. but its so new i dont wanna wear it out! got some replacement joys on the way. then ill see how good i am...

[tommy]

Well then the PS3 wouldn't fall under the look AND plays good idea so i would not bother with it.

As far as arcade games i still enjoy playing them no matter how they look and some do look very good BTW.

They are not making new arcade games everyday (not ones that we can play in Mame anyway) as they are always improving consoles, so i have no option but to play the Mame game how it is. With a console I'm not forced to play crappy looking games and see no reason too when there is a better look game that plays the same on a better console.

[ChadTower]

It is very critical in Mario 64.  There will be places where you have to creep and if your stick is too loose you can't do it.

tommy, there is no game that plays like OOT or Mario 64.  None.  We're talking top 5 all time games here, both of them.

[tommy]

That's good, it's the best of it's day but not anymore. You wouldn't put that up against twilight princess and you cannot really say you would rather play an inferior game when yo do not have to.

[ChadTower]

Do you ever watch movies older than 2-3 years old?  They're the best of their day but don't have the same special effects as movies do now.

[tommy]

Now we are getting way off the realm of making sense comparing other things to video games. Apples and Oranges.

I think i have said enough about this topic for now.

[pointdablame]

That's good, it's the best of it's day but not anymore. You wouldn't put that up against twilight princess and you cannot really say you would rather play an inferior game when yo do not have to.

sorry... but these 2 games are some of the best EVER.  not "of its day."  OOT and Mario 64 are 2 of the best games that have ever been created, and still are.  Not much at all even holds a candle to them today.

I actually feel sorry for you tommy, seriously.  You're so short-sighted and snob'ish about this that you missed some of the best game experiences ever.

[ChadTower]

Even if released on the same day, OOT and Mario 64 are both dramatically better games than Twilight Princess.

[tommy]

That's good, it's the best of it's day but not anymore. You wouldn't put that up against twilight princess and you cannot really say you would rather play an inferior game when yo do not have to.

sorry... but these 2 games are some of the best EVER.  not "of its day."  OOT and Mario 64 are 2 of the best games that have ever been created, and still are.  Not much at all even holds a candle to them today.

I actually feel sorry for you tommy, seriously.  You're so short-sighted and snob'ish about this that you missed some of the best game experiences ever.

I didn't mis them, i played them at the hight of their time. I just do not see a need to play them anymore with all the good stuff to be played today. 

Short sighted, hardly. Snobish, maybe, if knowing what type of games i like and i do not settle for anything less, then maybe.

[danny_galaga]

what we are all perplexed about is the fact that you are here (i imagine) because of an interest in retro games. unless it was the console section only that attracted you here (this has happened in the past, there was a guy named t & a gunner or something who only posted about guns for instance). by and large though people on this forum dig old stuff. doesnt mean we cant appreciate new stuff. hey, arent i writing this using that new fangled innernets?

dunno, just seems funny you think old console stuff is crap. be kinda like being on a vintage aircraft forum and saying that tiger moths are crap because they aren't as good as a cessna 172 

[Malacus]

Ive never once thought OoT looked like crap, thats just crazy talk!
Who gives a rats ass about the textures? They had to cram a ton of stuff onto those tiny little carts just so we didnt have load times.

Its absurd to think some one on THIS forum is thinking, "Pfft, I'm not playing Super Mario 3, that game sucks! 80s style! I'll go play Mario Sunshine, 'cause its on my Gamecube! That means its BETTER!"

-mal

you could always just play Ocarina ON your Gamecube, then it would be ok, right?   

[pointdablame]

I didn't mis them, i played them at the hight of their time. I just do not see a need to play them anymore with all the good stuff to be played today. 

Short sighted, hardly. Snobish, maybe, if knowing what type of games i like and i do not settle for anything less, then maybe.

you said yourself that you played it and didn't make it out of the village.  It's on this page a few posts up.... did you NOT say that??  So you didn't "play" them in their heyday, you just complained about it in their heyday cuz Nintendo didn't make the system you wanted.

So therefore, you didn't give it a chance and missed a FANTASTIC game.  And while you're entitled to an opinion just like everyone else, you are in the very small minority in saying that the N64 couldn't do 3D and that the games for it looked horrible.

[ChadTower]

That is a good point, making it out of the village is the first thing you do and gets you to like 1% completion.

[tommy]

I made it a good portion through the game when it was new, i just recently could not make it out of the village after looking at crap graphics.

I cannot think that i am alone when i think that there are so many better games to be playing and this game is a distant runner up in what people could be playing console wise.