Author Topic: now THIS is a problem... (Read 4302 times)

danny_galaga · « **on:** July 03, 2007, 05:39:32 am »

keg-napping!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070702/ap_on_bi_ge/disappearing_kegs

ChadTower · « **Reply #1 on:** July 03, 2007, 08:53:26 am »

Oh man, that's a big problem around here. Not specifically kegs but anything metal. People are stealing playground equipment, sewer control pieces, fences, construction site supplies, anything they can make off with. Last year I was replacing my storm door and had the old aluminum one in my yard while doing the work, intending to make use of the old one elsewhere. Went to the hardware store and when I returned it was gone.

WaRpEd · « **Reply #2 on:** July 03, 2007, 09:30:15 pm »

If anyone needs help emptying their keg Iam available on weekends.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #3 on:** July 04, 2007, 03:25:38 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 03, 2007, 08:53:26 am

Oh man, that's a big problem around here. Not specifically kegs but anything metal. People are stealing playground equipment, sewer control pieces, fences, construction site supplies, anything they can make off with. Last year I was replacing my storm door and had the old aluminum one in my yard while doing the work, intending to make use of the old one elsewhere. Went to the hardware store and when I returned it was gone.

that reminds me. i saw somewhere that ---mcdonalds coffee--- heads in (brazil?) are stealing man-hole covers to sell for scrap. at least one person has died from falling down the unexpected hole in the street

drunkatuw · « **Reply #4 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:36:51 pm »

At my local liquor store, deposits on kegs recently jumped from $10 to $30. I'm guessing this is to discourage people from selling them for scrap metal.

I also heard that beer prices are rising because farmers are devoting more land to corn (for ethanol) instead of barley...kegs for me have been $55 for the last 2 years and this month they jumped to $65. I think it might be time to start brewing my own beer.

shardian · « **Reply #5 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:38:27 pm »

Quote from: drunkatuw on July 05, 2007, 04:36:51 pm

I also heard that beer prices are rising because farmers are devoting more land to corn (for ethanol) instead of barley...kegs for me have been $55 for the last 2 years and this month they jumped to $65. I think it might be time to start brewing my own beer.

If you are going thru that many kegs, maybe you should just drink less beer.

ChadTower · « **Reply #6 on:** July 05, 2007, 04:45:51 pm »

Not with that username.

Jouster · « **Reply #7 on:** July 06, 2007, 11:48:58 am »

Don't listen to shardian...he must be drunk or something to propose such a crazy idea.

Jouster

patrickl · « **Reply #8 on:** July 06, 2007, 07:22:08 pm »

Worse, he's probably sober

drunkatuw · « **Reply #9 on:** July 09, 2007, 04:55:29 pm »

Quote from: shardian on July 05, 2007, 04:38:27 pm

Quote from: drunkatuw on July 05, 2007, 04:36:51 pm
I also heard that beer prices are rising because farmers are devoting more land to corn (for ethanol) instead of barley...kegs for me have been $55 for the last 2 years and this month they jumped to $65. I think it might be time to start brewing my own beer.

If you are going thru that many kegs, maybe you should just drink less beer.

You sound like my wife!

But I typically go through an 8 gallon keg (1/4 barrel) in about 6 weeks. So roughly 8-10 kegs/year, and the extra $10/keg means I'll be spending $80-100 more this year for beer!

NightGod · « **Reply #10 on:** July 09, 2007, 11:58:37 pm »

Just over a gallon of beer a week is still a hell of a lot of beer!

billf · « **Reply #11 on:** July 10, 2007, 11:11:49 am »

128 oz. per gallon times 8 gallons is 1024 fl. oz.

1024 fl. oz. is 85.3 - 12 oz. bottles of beer

So, 85 bottles over 42 days (6 weeks) is about 2-12 oz. bottles per day.

NightGod · « **Reply #12 on:** July 10, 2007, 10:31:27 pm »

Yeah...two beers a day is still a hell of a lot of beer when it's EVERY day. It's also a metric ton of calories over the course of a year.

I maybe drink 10 beers a month, and that would be the exception, say, in summer, when I hit a few weekend BBQs. If I drank 4 gallons of beer a year, I'd be shocked.

billf · « **Reply #13 on:** July 10, 2007, 10:41:16 pm »

Quote from: NightGod on July 10, 2007, 10:31:27 pm

Yeah...two beers a day is still a hell of a lot of beer when it's EVERY day. It's also a metric ton of calories over the course of a year.

Yep, I agree - lot of beer, lot of calories.

drunkatuw · « **Reply #14 on:** July 11, 2007, 05:16:14 pm »

Some people drink coke, I drink beer. 12 oz of coke has 140 calories (http://www.thedailyplate.com/food-nutrition/food/coca-cola/12oz-355ml-coke-classic) and my favorite beer has 149 calories (http://www.thedailyplate.com/food-nutrition/food/miller-brewing-company/leinenkugels-honey-weiss)

But no one says anything when someone sits at their desk all day and drinks 3-4 bottles of coke, but 2 beers at night is a hell of a lot of beer?

I play competitive tennis 4+ hours per week, so I'm not too worried about the beer belly right now. My BMI is still under 25, so I'm considered "normal weight".

I drink beer because I enjoy the flavor and I think the best way to end a long day at work is to drink a beer while cooking some meat on the grill.

I just did a little calculation

. Since I have a barcode scanner attached to my kegerator to log all my beers, I found out that I have had 271 beers so far this year (191 days), so assuming all the beers were 149 calories (which they weren't, occasionally I order a keg of light beer), that averages to 211 calories from beer/day. That's less than the amount of calories in one 20oz bottle of coke.

ChadTower · « **Reply #15 on:** July 11, 2007, 05:31:08 pm »

Why the hell would you have a scanner next to your keg?

drunkatuw · « **Reply #16 on:** July 11, 2007, 05:39:32 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 11, 2007, 05:31:08 pm

Why the hell would you have a scanner next to your keg?

It's a fun game when you're having a party..."who drank the most last night?"

But the real reason I did it was because in college (UW-Madison...hence the username) you could just drive to the liquor store and pick up any keg you wanted. But once I graduated and moved away from the college town, now I have to order my kegs ahead of time. Now that I have the barcode scanner installed, I can track how many beers I've had out of the current keg and know when I need to order a new one.

Added bonus is that it's fun to graph the number of beers I've had and compare the numbers to when my wife is PMSing...for some reason I always drink more that week

billf · « **Reply #17 on:** July 11, 2007, 06:01:02 pm »

Hey drunkatuw, your not drinking 3-4 cokes at work during day as well are you? That would be a heck of a lot of calories to sock away on a regular basis. I drink diet coke, so zero calories and still the yummy caffeine.

ChadTower · « **Reply #18 on:** July 11, 2007, 06:09:41 pm »

Ah yes, a who drank the most game doesn't look at someone who drinks too much...

NightGod · « **Reply #19 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:01:23 am »

I think people who drink a couple of full sugar cokes a day have a problem, as well. I've drank Diet for about 20 years now, recently cut to Caffeine Free Diet and I drink water (filtered with a Pur three-stage) more than anything these days. I've had three full sugar pops this year-two Cherry Cokes at a party, for old time's sake and a RC when I picked up a slice of pizza a couple months ago, again, old time's sake.

At the rate I'm going, I might top 5K calories from beverages for the whole year!

ChadTower · « **Reply #20 on:** July 12, 2007, 09:45:28 am »

Which would you rather have, in soda terms? 150 calories of caffeine and raw sugar or 0 calories and an artificial sweetener linked to Alzheimer's? The 0 calorie sweeteners are just now, after 20 or so years of heavy use, showing their long term effects, and the studies coming out are not pretty.

Jouster · « **Reply #21 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:50:14 am »

I'll add another option:

Drink low calorie beer which (when taking in the proper amounts) has a similar effect to Alzheimer's.

That would be my choice.

Jouster

shmokes · « **Reply #22 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:50:24 am »

Soda is disgusting. It's like melting down Jolley Ranchers and carbonating it. ---smurfing--- disgusting. Stop drinking it immediately.

ChadTower · « **Reply #23 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:52:33 am »

I like Jolly Ranchers.

shardian · « **Reply #24 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:00:05 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 12, 2007, 09:45:28 am

Which would you rather have, in soda terms? 150 calories of caffeine and raw sugar or 0 calories and an artificial sweetener linked to Alzheimer's? The 0 calorie sweeteners are just now, after 20 or so years of heavy use, showing their long term effects, and the studies coming out are not pretty.

Technically, you are not getting raw sugar in soda, you are getting processed high fructose corn syrup which is even worse than raw sugar. However, you can still special order Dr. Pepper made with cane sugar.

billf · « **Reply #25 on:** July 12, 2007, 01:03:35 pm »

Dr. Pepper - yum
Diet Coke - yum
Jolly Ranchers - yum

mmmmm....beer

drunkatuw · « **Reply #26 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:27:46 pm »

Quote from: billf on July 11, 2007, 06:01:02 pm

Hey drunkatuw, your not drinking 3-4 cokes at work during day as well are you? That would be a heck of a lot of calories to sock away on a regular basis. I drink diet coke, so zero calories and still the yummy caffeine.

I've had a total of 2 cans of soda in the last year (on plane flights). While at work, I only drink water, about 64oz per day. But back on topic here

, our local paper covered this same story today.

http://postbulletin.com/newsmanager/templates/localnews_story.asp?z=2&a=300389

ChadTower · « **Reply #27 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:29:27 pm »

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Mike Sedor, manager of Andy's Liquor on South Broadway in Rochester, says the business recently increased its keg and tap deposit to $150 to discourage people from stealing the kegs.

What moron is going to pay a $150 deposit rather than go someplace else?

bfauska · « **Reply #28 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:31:59 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 12, 2007, 09:45:28 am

Which would you rather have, in soda terms? 150 calories of caffeine and raw sugar or 0 calories and an artificial sweetener linked to Alzheimer's? The 0 calorie sweeteners are just now, after 20 or so years of heavy use, showing their long term effects, and the studies coming out are not pretty.

And I have a hard time imagining that something that gives me a headache about 5 minutes after consumption (every artificial sweetener I have tried) is better for me than sugar.

Admitedly, my lazy ass needs to drink much less soda, but switching to diet is not the solution for me.

ChadTower · « **Reply #29 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:36:09 pm »

Follow your avatar.

drunkatuw · « **Reply #30 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:38:41 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 12, 2007, 02:29:27 pm

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Mike Sedor, manager of Andy's Liquor on South Broadway in Rochester, says the business recently increased its keg and tap deposit to $150 to discourage people from stealing the kegs.

What moron is going to pay a $150 deposit rather than go someplace else?

There are only two liquor stores in town (each has 3 or 4 branches though). The $150 deposit is for the tap and keg, the deposit for the keg only is $30 (used to be $10).

ChadTower · « **Reply #31 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:40:12 pm »

So the deposit on the tap is $120?

And what town only has two liquor stores? Even in a 4000 person town there are usually 3-4. They're like donut shops.

drunkatuw · « **Reply #32 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:45:13 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 12, 2007, 02:40:12 pm

So the deposit on the tap is $120?

And what town only has two liquor stores? Even in a 4000 person town there are usually 3-4. They're like donut shops.

There are two big stores, Andy's liquor and Applo's liquor, each have 4 stores I believe, so a total of 8. Then there are some small ma and pa stores which don't sell kegs and don't have a very wide selection of wine or beer.

Did a quick yellow pages search and there are 15 total liquor stores, 7 which are one of the two big chains (relatively speaking).

ChadTower · « **Reply #33 on:** July 12, 2007, 02:48:37 pm »

Ah, yes, if you're looking for nonmainstream kegs, sources will be sparse.

I've found lately myself really enjoying this stuff[/i]. Bottled two hours away, sold in half gallon bottles within about two weeks. Their Red Rock Ale is great. I think I'm paying a dollar above that price plus deposit.

NightGod · « **Reply #34 on:** July 12, 2007, 11:55:22 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 12, 2007, 09:45:28 am

Which would you rather have, in soda terms? 150 calories of caffeine and raw sugar or 0 calories and an artificial sweetener linked to Alzheimer's? The 0 calorie sweeteners are just now, after 20 or so years of heavy use, showing their long term effects, and the studies coming out are not pretty.

I'm barely drinking the diet stuff anymore, either. I'm definitely nowhere near "20 or so years of heavy use".

And high fructose corn syrup (the stuff they use in full sugar pop) is hardly good for you, either. See: Type 2 Diabetes.

danny_galaga · « **Reply #35 on:** July 13, 2007, 12:57:59 am »

Quote from: ChadTower on July 12, 2007, 02:29:27 pm

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Mike Sedor, manager of Andy's Liquor on South Broadway in Rochester, says the business recently increased its keg and tap deposit to $150 to discourage people from stealing the kegs.

What moron is going to pay a $150 deposit rather than go someplace else?

smart outfits will liase with each other so that everyone has the same deposit scheme. then it doesnt matter where you go. and they shouldnt get in trouble for price fixing because, after all they give you the money back...

boykster · « **Reply #36 on:** July 13, 2007, 01:59:51 am »

While I agree the chain-drinkers of soda are consuming TONS of calories, the concer over high-fructose being WAY worse than sucrose (cane sugar) is actually not as bad as previously thought:

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/localnews/2003783899_cornsyrup11m.html

Not saying that consuming large quantities is GOOD for you, but the fructose may not be as damaging as previously thought vs sucrose. In fact, it has been shown that sucrose after a few days/weeks breaks down to a form very similary chemically to fructose....

Felsir · « **Reply #37 on:** July 13, 2007, 04:38:25 am »

The (original) topic made me think of these: Thieves steal a bridge to sell as scrap metal. Scrap metal thieves steal locomotive.
Beer kegs? Amateurs!

Jouster · « **Reply #38 on:** July 13, 2007, 06:16:21 am »

What is this talk of the original topic???

How do you expect us to thread-jack this topic if you keep brining up the "original" topic???

Jouster

jbox · « **Reply #39 on:** July 13, 2007, 08:02:17 am »

Quote from: Felsir on July 13, 2007, 04:38:25 am

The (original) topic made me think of these: Thieves steal a bridge to sell as scrap metal. Scrap metal thieves steal locomotive.
Beer kegs? Amateurs!

Bah! I scoff at your poor communist attempts! How about stealing a forest?!?


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