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How to get rid of unwanted multiple rom versions?
« on: April 10, 2003, 08:21:17 pm »
Ok,
For many games I've noticed that in one Zip file you get like 2-5 versions of the same game.  Usually a US version, a Japan version, a World version, etc...

Could someone tell me how to keep the one version you want and get rid of the rest?

I've tried opening the Zip file, but none of the zipped files make any sense to me.

Thanks!
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Re:How to get rid of unwanted multiple rom versions?
« Reply #1 on: April 10, 2003, 09:01:06 pm »
Check out the forums at www.romcenter.com for more info.

Basically you will want to use Romcenter or ClrMamePro to do this.  Romcenter is very easy to use, but seems to be buggy with the latest sets...clearly missing stuff it shouldn't. (It only uses 32 bit CRCs and not 64 bit like ClrMamePro).

ClrMamePro is much more advanced but definitely harder to use and VERY easy to toast your roms if you dont know what you're doing (be sure to back them up/burn them before you start playing)

There are 3 ways to store MAME roms. What people / programs call them is slightly different but here is the basics.

1) Fully merged.  This is what you apparently have.   Assume we are dealing with Arkanoid and Tournament arkanoid.  Lets say tHey have 3 roms each, and one rom us identical. Your zip file will look something like this:

arkanoid.zip:
ark-1t.rom
ark-1s.rom
ark-1u.rom
arkt1s.rom  -- Differing rom for tournament ark

This method saves the MOST disk space as only the differences in clones are saved PLUS there is only 1 file, therefore overhead of extra zips (minimum block size) doesn't steal disk space.  Also you can always be sure that all games within the zip are "complete" and you never have to wonder if a zip is a clone or a parent and ensure you keep them together.

2) Fully Split.  Your files may look like this:

arkanoid.zip:
ark-1t.rom
ark-1s.rom
ark-1u.rom

arkt.zip
ark-1t.rom -- Same rom from above
arkt1s.rom  -- Differing rom for tournament ark
ark-1u.rom -- Same rom from above

This is the most "self-sufficient" allowing you to only keep the games you want, but it also takes the MOST disk space. One file per game and duplicate roms within the file that are already in the parent.

3) Split-Merged:  looks like this:

arkanoid.zip:
ark-1t.rom
ark-1s.rom
ark-1u.rom

arkt.zip
arkt1s.rom  -- Differing rom for tournament ark


This is the way you find them most of the time.  This saves a lot of disk space over #2, but is *slightly* larger than #1 in space usage. Benefits are you can toast the clones and keep the parents, but also if you want any clones you have to ensure you keep the parents around.

Also note: Many times the parent MAY not be the game you are familiar with playing at the arcade. It may be the Japensese version where you want the US or World version "clone" instead.  Or there may be bug fixes in later clone versions (see asteroids, defender, etc..)


I originally kept mine in Split/Merged but decided to go with fully merged instead. Much easier to keep track of changes and keep clones with parents.

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Re:How to get rid of unwanted multiple rom versions?
« Reply #2 on: April 10, 2003, 09:02:28 pm »
Sounds like you don't have a BIG HARD DRIVE.
But anyway, I guess Clrmame should do the trick. I have not use it myslef cause I have a BIG HARD DRIVE.
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Re:How to get rid of unwanted multiple rom versions?
« Reply #3 on: April 10, 2003, 10:35:58 pm »
ClrMame Pro is my choice. Not very intuitive, but easyemu.com has a great step-by-step tutorial.  I have used it twice now for updates and it works like a champ. haven't quite figured out how to get it to work with cabinet/snaps/marquee/etc dat files though.

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Re:How to get rid of unwanted multiple rom versions?
« Reply #4 on: April 10, 2003, 11:18:39 pm »
If you'r eusing mame32, right click and goto "custom filters" then turn on the clone filter.
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Re:How to get rid of unwanted multiple rom versions?
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2003, 01:08:36 am »
If you renamed a fully merged set to the name of the clone you want, then only that clone will "show up", the original version won't. I did that for all the games that had nonworking originals with working clones, and all the other games that had clones as the preferred version to play.
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