Halloween: Paranormal Experiences Post (The Unrated Version)

[MustardTent]

The part that got me though was that it was powered off. This is back in the day when powered off means off, and not just asleep. Physical toggle switch that makes it all go dark. Still, guess there was electricity in there somewhere....

Hey saint,
  Is the speaker in question active or passive?

I ask because if the speaker is passive is it extremely unlikely that it would be picking up a CB transmission and replaying it.  The CB transmission needs to be powerful enough to actually power your speaker (i.e. move the cone), and there is the fact that you speaker's frequency response is probably in the range of 15kHz, while a CB transmits at 30 mHz. 

It's very hard to get physical things to vibrate at 30 mHz, unless they are very small.

However, have you experienced the Nextel effect in which you put your phone next to a speaker and the speaker starts to click?  This is because those phones spray a ton of crap, and the diodes in the speaker react to the noise and are able to provide a voltage to the speaker, which makes it move.

So, if your speaker makes use of diodes, then maybe it would click in reaction to noise over the air, but a clear sentence -- nope.

After re-reading your post, it sounds like your speaker may have been active -- if that is true, then the story changes.

[DarkKobold]

I finished toweling off and opened the curtain. To my amazement, the tweezers were back on the countertop -- right where they were at the start of this story. 

Where do I get one of these ghost maids... seriously! My appartment is a pig-sty!

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Here's the other story I spoke of earlier. It's the only 'unexplainable' occurrence in my life. I will *always* err on the side of some scientific explanation, but for this event...I can find none.

Me and my fiance' used to rent the bottom floor of a two family house in an old Massachusetts town, most famous for it's Victorian-era manufacturing of leather boots and other women's goods. The landlord and his wife lived above us on the second floor. We both had access to the basement (washer/dryer/storage).

One afternoon, I went down to do some laundry. I worked from home at the time, my fiancé' was away at the office. No one else was in my apartment above. However, as I began to throw the clothes in the machine, I heard (very distinctly) the sound of someone quickly clomping across the wooden floor of my apartment, right inside my living room, heading towards the front door. Our floors were so thin, in fact, that the sound came through clearly enough that I heard the heel-toe, heel-toe pattern and grit beneath the soles. We lived in an extremely bad part of town, and I was convinced that someone had entered my apartment, and was probably in the process of taking something out. "Did I leave the front door open?", I asked myself as I grabbed a 3ft piece of lead pipe and slowly made my way upstairs to confront the intruder.

But alas, when I peaked into the living room, nobody was there and my two cats were both asleep in their beds (they would have disappeared in an instant, had someone even approached the front porch). The front door was closed, and locked. Scratching my head, I went back to the laundry.

When my fiancé got home, I related the story - without much detail - to her...She looked at me with astonishment and took me down into the basement where she asked me, "Did it sound like boots?"

"Yeah", I answered.

"Did it sound like they were moving fast; from here, heading to here?" See pointed to the *exact* locations I had heard the sound above me.

"Uuuhhh...Yeah", I hesitantly replied.

"Well, I've heard it also, twice before. I never told you because I know how you are, and I knew you'd probably think I was crazy. And you remember when I asked you months ago to move my dresser, the one with the mirror on it, so that it was no longer pointing towards the corner closet?"

"Yeah, that was so much fun, how could I forget!", I countered. "Well, I asked you to move it because I saw something reflected in it one morning. Something that scared me so badly, I never wanted to see it again."

"There standing behind me, was the very clear image of a women, wearing older style clothes. She stood by that closet, you know, the one that always made me uncomfortable, the closet that was reflected in the mirror?", she continued, "Thee very closet which my cousin Jennie, the Wiccan, when she came to visit, pointed to and said – without any prompting from me – 'that thing makes me uncomfortable, I’ve got to get out of this room'", "You know the one, right?"

“Great”, I said. “I’m marrying into a family of lunatics.”

…And that’s where it stayed, for several months. Until one day, we pulled up in our drive-way, where our landlord was outside the basement side-door cutting wood.

“Oh”, he said. “Are you guys just getting home?”

“Yeah, we’ve been gone for the weekend”, I replied.

“That’s weird, because I heard someone walking around in your apartment just a while ago. My wife hasn’t been home all day, and she wouldn’t just go in there without your permission anyhow. That’s weird. I must have been mistaken.”

“Could you point out where you heard this?”

He then proceeded to point to the exact same location that both myself and my fiancé had heard the noise before. We never related this story to him, nor anyone else, since my fiance’ thinks it will make her look crazy, and I was certain, up until this point, that it could be explained away.

There are no heating ducts, or water pipes in that area, or anywhere even near it. There is no other possible way I can think of to recreate the distinct sound that we all heard, and I cannot, to this day, find any explanation for what it was; those sounds of quickly paced boot steps across my living room floor.

We have since moved out of that place, but recent events have only heightened my fiance’s retroactive fear of those events. It was related to us, just several weeks ago through a relative of the landlord, that he had killed himself in that house. They didn’t tell us how, and they didn’t know why (he didn’t leave a note)…and to be honest, I don’t think I want to know.

We both used to have horribly bad dreams when we lived there, and our bedroom, the one with the closet, was always 5-10 degrees colder than the rest of the house. Even in the summer.

Those things stand out to me still. But I explain the coldness away based on the direction of the house and the number of windows in the bedroom. I've explained to dreams away, because we where going through a particularly difficult time when we lived there. But all of it, taken together, is enough to give me pause.

mrC

[Glaine]

In High School I used to do Rune divination. Basically you cast certain numbers of wood pieces with runes on them and then divine things based on how close certain runes are to each other, if ones fall far away from the pile, and which pieces fall right-side up and upside-down (upside-down can indicate the opposite meaning).

Anyways, I did a reading over if my Grandad's furniture factory would still be around in a year and came to the conclusion that the company would still be around, but would be handed over to someone else. He retired and sold the company to someone else.

Also, I used to do a general reading each morning and most mornings nothing interesting came up. Then one morning, I read that there would be violent changes and that day my dad got on to me all day to stop reading runes. Lots of arguing. But in the end I gave up all of that stuff because he showed me in the Bible where it says God hates diviners, magicians, sooth-sayers, etc. And honestly, thats good enough for me if the Bible says it.

Disagree if you want, I don't really care. I still believe in alot of things like that even if I don't do them anymore.

[rhoelsch]

RESURRECTED!

*ahem* OOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!   (*gag, cough, choke*)

[Ed_McCarron]

RESURRECTED!

*ahem* OOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!   (*gag, cough, choke*)

Like anyone here has any normal experiences?

[HaRuMaN]

RESURRECTED!

*ahem* OOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!   (*gag, cough, choke*)

Like anyone here has any normal experiences?

Sometimes my money disappears from my PayPal account... and then a few days later, as if by magic, arcade parts appear on my doorstep! 

[RTSDaddy2]

True story:

About 6 months after we had our daughter, my wife was out with the kid grocery shopping.  It was pouring rain here, so I laid down on the couch.  Before I go on here, I must add we've had strange things happen in this house, and I DID pinch myself to make sure I was awake while all this was actually happening.

Anyway, laid down on the couch, and took a nap.  When I woke up, I heard my child crying.  I thought, oh thank goodness they're home, because the rain was very heavy.  So, I went in the kitchen to help put the groceries away and no one was there.

I went back in to our living room, and at this point I start pinching myself, because the crying is louder now and it's outside our door.  I thought "oh, she just got home and she's put the bags down to get her key; I"ll open the door for her."  Opened the door, no wife, no kid.

Close the door and now the crying is almost deafening....I run to the little one's room, nothing.  Are they in our bedroom? No, nothing there either.  I go back to the living room and for about 5 more minutes and the crying abruptly stopped.  Shaken beyond words, I went back to the couch and tried to relax.

About 15 minutes later, the wife and little one did get home....once she put the groceries down, I told her the same story I just told you.  She asked me about how long ago the events I described took place, and I told her about 20 - 25 minutes earlier.  She went white as a sheet and grasped the cabinet.  She said "Oh my god...." and went on to add that our daughter was crying because she was hungry....my wife had to pull over and stop the car to feed her.  Once she did, the little one was fine. So to sum up, at the EXACT time my little one was fussing, Daddy heard her crying in the house, though no one was here.

I'll tell you like I've told my students for years.  If it had just been a baby's cries, I would have run for the hills.  Those of you with kids though KNOW what your child's cry sounds like.  There's never been one doubt in my mind it was her.  And NO, I had not been drinking.

I've got another I'll share with you later....do ghosts exist?  Don't know that I would attest to it, but I have damn sure had some weird experiences in this house and in my life.....I have a HEALTHY respect for 'em, I assure you of that!

[shmokes]

What is it with you people and pinching yourself to see if you're awake.  I've been in fistfights in dreams, I've been shot, I've been slapped, I've had sex, I've jumped off a second-floor balcony into a pool.  What would happen if someone were to pinch me while I was dreaming?  Would I immediately wake up?  Is it impossible to dream about pinching?

Anyway, I have two.  One is actually just an incredibly bizarre dream, but not really paranormal.  But kind of creepy.  The second is full-on, poltergeist haunting. 

As a kid I spent many nights sleeping on the trampoline in the back yard.  One night I woke up in the middle of the night.  The moon was pretty bright -- not full, but I could see pretty well.  I looked over at the house.  It, and the rest of the back yard were fairly well lit by the moonlight, but the shadows at the sides of the house obscured them in pitch darkness.  I was just laying there looking at the house for a few moments when suddenly, and simultaneously Jason Voorhees (Friday the 13th) and Freddy Krueger stepped out from the shadows at either side of my house.  This was quite unexpected.  Naturally it startled the hell out of me and I immediately woke up (didn't realize until this point that I was dreaming).  But when I opened my eyes I was looking at exactly, ---smurfing--- EXACTLY the same scene (minus the fictional characters).  Light levels were the same.  My position on the trampoline was the same.  The sides of the house were obscured exactly the same.  Every last detail was the same, and I swear to god I was about to be visited by a couple of unfriendly fellows.     Talk about a weird feeling.  In case anyone was wondering, they never showed up.

Now to delve into my one, honest to god encounter with the unexplained - my one paranormal experience.

One day, during Summer vacation, my sister and I were the only ones home.  My sister was in the bathroom taking a bath and I decided to make some OJ (from concentrate).  I went into the kitchen, grabbed a pitcher and a can of OJ from the freezer and proceeded to mix it with three cans of cold tap water.  I mixed it for a long time (it takes forever for that damned block of OJ concentrate to dissolve), and when it was finally finished I turned around, opened the refrigerator door, and put the OJ into the fridge.  I then walked across the kitchen floor, opened the cupboard, grabbed a glass, walked back to the refrigerator , opened the fridge door and . . . no OJ.  WTF?  I just put the OJ in there like 15 seconds ago.  Where's the OJ?  I looked back at the counter where I had made it.  Nothing.  Freezer?  Nothing.  I opened every cupboard in the kitchen.  Nothing.  I even opened every drawer in the kitchen.  I then went to the bathroom, where I could still hear my sister splashing around in the bathtub and said, "Sarah, did you come out and get orange juice," and she was like, "What?"

15 seconds -- 30 tops.  I was never more than 6 or 7 feet from the fridge.  Where did it go?  Never found it.  Never found the pitcher again either.  Gone forever. 

Anyway.  I know these things are supposed to have a nefarious flavor to them, but mine didn't.  It was just a pitcher of OJ disappearing.  What can I say?  Ghosts apparently aren't out to make me pee my pants.  They just like to ---fudgesicle--- with me (and/or they are thirsty).   

[rhoelsch]

Aw, c'mon... someone do an OJ joke.....

[DaOld Man]

Did you check CNN? Maybe it was in a SUV going down the highway at 30 mph with 50 cops and several news copters following in close pursuit?

[Howard_Casto]

I used to have a haunted Darth Vader model.  The thing would get up and move around when the lights were off, I kid you not.  Not like running across the room or anything, but moving a foot or so.  I told my friends about it and they said I was full of it, until I made them come over and night and turned the lights off.  We were grown (about 16-18 in ages) and the time mind you and as freaked out as I was I've never seen anything funnier than a 230 lb man booking it out of the room shrieking in terror!    The dang thing turned it's head around and looked at us!  Well the next day I smashed that thing to bits and it hasn't bothered anyone since.  It's a shame too, seeing as how it was a vintage model I got at a star trek convention. 

Honestly though, it was probably just some wierd property of the model that made it look like it was moving when looking at certain angles. 


I've gotta think that full-on "ghosts" are bunk.  I mean when there hasn't been a single pic or video clip captured in the history of mankind and the "experts" are guys that work at roto-rooter you've gotta think that there isn't much to it. 

[Xiaou2]

Ghosts are not Bunk.   Ive seen one clear as hell,  from a distance of
a mere 12ft away from me.   Ive posted the story here.

 People have not always had a camera ready to capture a ghost.
Its not like you actually expect to see one.  And when you do,
your Frozen in shock and fear - like a deer peering into headlights.

 The images that are captured now, are always going to be disputed,
because today its fairly easy to fake things digitally.

 However, there are plenty of people, who have seen things, who will
tell you their stories if you ask them.  People who have good reputations,
who do not Lie... and who it would be more beneficial Not too tell
the stories for fear of their reputations being smeared by the disbelievers.

 One key factor in seeing such things..  is that if you dont believe they
exist,  you literally can not experience them.    Think of it like a Radio...
We are all tuned into channel 98.   However, they reside on channel 100.
You can only witness them if you allow yourself to tune into that
station.   Usually fear causes a suspension of your believe that there
are no such things...  which then leads you to be open to being able
to experience them.

 Similarly, they are not powerful enough to be harmful,  unless you believe
so.   I believe this is how people are possessed... because they believe
that they have no power over the spirit.. and allow it to take over them.

 I believe Poltergeist,  are not a single entity...  but rather, many spirits
that work together 'pooling' their energies to amazing levels.   A real
rarity.

 Real Witches?    We all can be trained to be intuitive.  However,  I believe
those who have exceptional powers - are those who have a single or 'set'
of spirit(s) who act on their behalf.   A very dangerous game to play.

 Ive experienced quite a lot of supernatural things, mostly by choice
and seeking it out.  I was fortunate not to play on the dark side however.
But Ive heard plenty of bad happinings from people who did.

[shmokes]

Use the force Xiaou2.  Use the force!

[SithMaster]

Anybody here watch the show Supernatural?  Apparently its a documentary.

Similarly, they are not powerful enough to be harmful,  unless you believe
so.   I believe this is how people are possessed... because they believe
that they have no power over the spirit.. and allow it to take over them.

 I believe Poltergeist,  are not a single entity...  but rather, many spirits
that work together 'pooling' their energies to amazing levels.   A real
rarity.

So your saying if i cant see you then you cannot see me?

You mean the movie?

[Xiaou2]

I believe there are Universal laws set in place...  as think about it...  If
it were so easy for a spirit to cause humans trouble,  all hell would be
breaking loose on a massive uninterrupted scale.

 However, these laws can be bent and broken - if you choose or allow
it to happen.

 Reality is much more than what we see and feel physically.  Its based
on a foundation of things that are beyond scientific understandings.

 People are most comfortable with the ideas of limitations on what they
know and experience, and so often lash out and shut out any possibility
that they feel is outside their chosen box size.   However, that does
not change the truth.   

 Just as there were thousands who thought the earth was flat.. and
would fight and smear others in disbelief...  again, it didnt change the
real truth.     And as advanced as Science is today, its barely scratched
the surface of the depths of the knowledge and workings of the
thing we call reality.

[Howard_Casto]

Ghosts are not Bunk.   Ive seen one clear as hell,  from a distance of
a mere 12ft away from me.   Ive posted the story here.

  One key factor in seeing such things..  is that if you dont believe they
exist,  you literally can not experience them.   

ROTFLMAO!!!


Sorry man, but that sounds like religion to me, NOT science.  ALL things, even ghosts can be explained by science, and if they can't then they don't exist.  It's as simple as that.  I didn't say that people seeing things was bunk (Although usually some scientific explaination is behind it, regardless of how fantastical it appeared to them at the time) I said ghosts were bunk.  There is a BIG difference.  I have not doubt that there are ways to see "supernatural" things, but what I mean is, it isn't a dead person, it's something else.  A rip in a dimensional barrier, unique properties in a room "recording" an event, ect... but NOT a spirit of some person. 

It's common sense really, if "ghosts" were actual people we'd have proof by now because at least one dead guy would be willing to manifest himself for some proof.

[Xiaou2]

The question is...  are you sure there is no proof?    People have pics, footage, recordings
and more.   Are you so sure these are all fake?

 As for manifestation...  as I said, this depends on the persons perception.   If they allow
themselves to be able to see that spirit or not.   So while I might be able to see it,
maybe you do not.

 However, the other factor is - Do they see you too?   Realistically, they can not be
experiencing life the same way in that form.  Even Vision is not the same - as there are no
physical eyes. (nor ears)    While some may be lucid to the earthly world,  some
may be tuned into a whole different channel, and not even see or are conscious of
human presence.


 There are those who can hear the spirits.. thru a sort of telepathy or channeling,
etc..  but how would one really prove it?

 On Ghost Hunters, they asked the spirit to drop the temperature of the room down
to a certain degree.. and the spirit was able to do so. (like 10 degrees, and only
in that one small spot)   Is it real?   Ive heard similar stories of temperature dropping
in spiritual presences..    including from my mother (who sees them often, and vividly clear). 

 Religion is what it sounds like,  because in a way.. thats what it involves.  Its life
after death.  A consciousness, that exists beyond the physical body.

 This is most disturbing and too hard for most to swallow, because that would mean
they would have to shoot down their own ideas about religion.

[Ed_McCarron]

The question is...  are you sure there is no proof?    People have pics, footage, recordings
and more.   Are you so sure these are all fake?

Depends.  Do you base your logic on a religion or science?

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/686

[shardian]

Depends.  Do you base your logic on a religion or science?

http://www.cosmosmagazine.com/node/686
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Hehe, there are some good stories in the comments section of that story.

[rhoelsch]

This one apparently has the scientists stumped... "para"normal? Yes. Ghost? Not necessarily. Freakin weird? Oh, indeed...

http://thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article385529.ece

Certainly not evidence of the afterlife, but it is evidence of weird stuff happening that defies an educated scientific explanation... what can you conclude when there is no conclusion?

[Ed_McCarron]

Pretty cool.

Time to get Amazing Randi involved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazing_Randi

[AtomSmasher]

"About one-third of people believe they could be ghosts."
...probably a typo, unless the sanitariums are more crowded then I thought.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071026/ap_on_re_us/ghosts_ap_poll

[Ed_McCarron]

"About one-third of people believe they could be ghosts."

I see dead people...

[AtomSmasher]

"About one-third of people believe they could be ghosts."

I see dead people...

but do you think you could be a dead person?

[shardian]

I've told my only personal "ghost" experience on the first page, but I apparently have a new one to tell, but not as entertaining.

First off, my wife has told me on many occasions that she has heard footsteps in our house, and has even "saw" a man in the hallway before. She is home alone all day, so in most cases I just chalk it up to active imagination. (I  heard footsteps in my house as a kid too since I was a latch-key child most of the time).

Anyways, every since we have come here, things have turned up missing in strange ways over and over. For instance, I will see a tool sitting in a spot for weeks that I don't have a use for, but when I have a use, it is gone and absolutely nowhere to be found. Then after I have compromised and don't need it anymore, it will show up in the same place I saw it before in a week or two. Most of the time I just chalk these instances up to poor organization or me or the wife moving it but forgetting about it. However, some of the times are just plain odd if you know what I mean. We often joke that we have a gnome that likes to play tricks on us, but some of these incidents do really spook us.
Last night, one of those odd situations came about again. We always keep the nose syringe for our baby on the shelf under the changing table. Well, we went to look for it and it was nowhere to be found. I mean I looked EVERYWHERE more than once. I swore my wife left it somewhere in the house, and she swore she left it right where it always is. Anyways, both of us had tore apart that shelf several times apiece during our frustrating search. The next morning as we are getting ready to leave to go to the store to buy a new one, the wife looks down at the shelf and notices something. There that damn syringe was right on the shelf where it always is. We both just kind of looked at each other and at the same time said "No way, that thing was NOT there last night".

[Ed_McCarron]

"About one-third of people believe they could be ghosts."

I see dead people...

but do you think you could be a dead person?

Its distinctly possible.  It would explain the lack of laughs to my attempts at humor.

[shmokes]

When my wife and I go for long drives, we read to each other.  Usually she does the driving and I do the reading because my voice doesn't get tired and recently my wife has developed a propensity for motion sickness.  One day we were driving up to southern Idaho (from Utah) during the night time.  I had been reading for a while and I looked up and said, "Stacy . . . is the sky red?"  It looked like a normal, starry night sky, but it just had a distinctly reddish hue.  She said, "That's weird, it does kind of look red, doesn't it?  It must just be something reflecting off our windows."  There was a radar detector with some red LEDs and, of course, the dashboard lights.  But it just didn't sit right with me.  Finally I opened my window (it was the middle of winter so my wife started yelling at me).  I was like, "No . . . it's still red.  WTF?"  We figured it must just be light pollution from some city (though there were no large cities very nearby).

A day or two later we happened to catch a news report that the Northern Lights were visible abnormally far south, in northern states like Michigan, for example.  I'm sure that's what it was.  Pretty weird at the time, though.

[AtomSmasher]

"About one-third of people believe they could be ghosts."

I see dead people...

but do you think you could be a dead person?

Its distinctly possible.  It would explain the lack of laughs to my attempts at humor.

I believe the problem comes from a lack of smilies in your posts.  Modern culture has been warped by laugh tracks used in television sitcoms, so now the only way to get people to laugh is by telling them its time to laugh....or your attempt at humor just wasn't funny 

[rhoelsch]

Back again!
... because sometimes, things

just

won't

DIE



(the power of Christ compelled me)

[CCM]

I'm a skeptic and have had no personal experiences of my own.  My wife is a strong believer in the paranormal and claims to have lived in a haunted house when she was a kid, things moving around, unexplained shrieking and screaming, etc...  She was born in Amityville, NY so who knows. 

We do watch Ghost Hunters every week and they seem to have had some pretty hard to explain evidence.  Anyway, they are doing a live investigation tonight (they've done one the last few years on Halloween) starting at 7pm on Sci Fi.  So, that's our big plans for this evening.

http://www.scifi.com/ghosthunters/live/

[ark_ader]

I do not have much luck with spooks or ghosts, as I really have no active imagination to get my senses going - like terror from watching movies.  I mean when I go to a horror show I laugh a lot and I guess it spoils it for others.  Maybe it was my extensive collection of Fangoria magazines that made me immune. Rob Bottin was a hero of mine....

But I had two experiences that would wig you out if it happened to you, and one scenario that scared several family members to a point (well not my immediate family members - just to make it clear first we are not blood related) where one of my in-laws is in the nut house because of it.

First example was when I was 13 years old.  I went to sleep one Sunday night (as there was no adult movies on Select TV that night - I had it in my room and my Dad didn't know what was on late at night) and had a very good sleep, woke up ready to go to school.  Except when I woke I was totally blind.  I was awake, stubbed my toes on the end of the bed, looking for the light switch, flicked the switch on and I still could not see anything.

Talk about panic.  I was crying for my Dad, who came in and put me back into bed and told me to go back to sleep, so it must have been still early in the morning, so I went back to bed and went back to sleep.  When I woke my sight had returned, but I had to miss football practice as I broke 3 of my toes.  I do not sleepwalk and my Dad said my eyes were wide open, and it freaked him silly.  Figure that one out.  Blame it on Select TV.

Second Experience was at work.  I used to work at an old textile mill, converted to a call centre.  The mill had several accidents in its famous past.  A fire in the basement killed several people, and it was claimed that it is near impossible to go into the basement as the feeling of "something in there with you" is pretty strong.

But I digress... In one of the woman's bathrooms (as used today) used to be a store room.  In that store room a little girl died of strangulation with the fibers or cotton, rope -whatever.  And the little girl's presence is still in the same place.  It was not unusual to hear screams from the ladies going in there. 

Apparently the stall doors open or close on their own and they can hear a whimpering voice.  It happens in the evening so when you are on the night shift - you can get some pretty upset women running out of there on occasion.  I always wanted to know why they went in the bathroom in twos and threes...

I went in there with two male managers - and it was a feeling like someone was watching you.  Probably some pervert with a camera and a speaker...

Finally our famous in-law family spooky story.  To make a long story short - My sister-in-laws parents were German, and escaped Germany at the start of WWII.  Either they were Jewish or Gypsies they fled Nazi Germany aided by a priest.  They escaped Germany and settled in the USA, but the priest was captured, tortured and executed by the Nazis.

So years on before my Brother married my sister-in-law, my brothers grew up and went to school with their family, and when I came along my future sister-in-law looked after me and was my babysitter on many occasions.  It was through this time I learned about the garage.

Now they were a large family many brothers and sisters, and they did not go into the garage alone.  I was not allowed unless I was accompanied.  It appeared that the kind priest's "spirit" was somehow in the vicinity of the garage as things move about, odd noises loud enough to hear outside.  You ask a question about it and they hushed you up.  I thought it was a cat or animal caught in there.  I opened the garage door once and had a look around.  Nothing but cobwebs.  But you would know something was up.  Something you could not put your finger on.

The Spirit interacted with you when you least expected it to.  My brother-in-law told me of a time he was asleep and woke to find he could not get up, and the record player started.  All he had to do was say "leave me alone" and he was released.  The sowing machine started once when I was there, while it was unplugged.

I never had any bad experiences there as the family was like my own family.  We had so much fun together, fishing, BBQs etc.  That the garage wasn't even mentioned.  Something must have happened to that in-law who is now institutionalized.....

I would have moved, but they lived there until they all got married and moved away.  I guess it was a legacy they all endured, or at least one does still.

I do not believe in Ghosts.  But life serves up some pretty weird stuff that I cannot explain. 

[grbgemen]

when i was younger, maybe 7 or 8, i was sleeping on the floor next to my mothers bed.  in the middle of the night, i sat up and at the base of my feet was a girl reading a book with her legs crossed.  she was all white and had sort of glow to her.  i quickly pulled the covers over my head and told myself it was a dream.  however i was sure i was awake.  i let the covers down slowly and she was still there.  again i pulled the covers over my head and remember lying there, squeezing my eyes shut as hard as possible.  i eventually fell asleep.

a short time after that, on a different night, i was again sleeping on the floor.  i awoke again in the middle of the night and saw the same girl.  only this time she was sitting on my mothers hope chest.  again reading a book.  she never said anything, nor did she ever look at me.  i dont know why but when i saw her the second time, i wasnt as scared and i remember i just rolled over and went to bed.  it was as if i felt safer that she was there.  my mother to this day thinks she was watching over me.  

have never seen her again since then.


other than that, ive had a few situations that were just strange.  only one i really remember was it was late at night and i had been looking for something under the stairs.  my father was getting ready for bed and told me to do the same.  on his way up the stairs, he told me not to forget to shut the light off under the stairs before i went up.  i went ahead and shut the light off, shut the door, and headed up to bed.  while upstairs i remembered i had forgotten something downstairs.  i went down and there stood the door wide open with the light on.  and i know i shut it off.

[Ummon]

We both used to have horribly bad dreams when we lived there, and our bedroom, the one with the closet, was always 5-10 degrees colder than the rest of the house. Even in the summer.

Man, gotta get me some o them for next summer. All them folks hangin and goofin around when they could be of some sincere help.

Back again!
... because sometimes, things

just

won't

DIE



(the power of Christ compelled propelled me)

Fixed.

I can't hardly wait until I'm dead and have nothing better to do than float around and screw with the living.

 

I know, huh? Basically, it's been described to me that these things are attached to life they no longer are a part of, and the best thing to do is to wish them off well.

Pretty cool.

Time to get Amazing Randi involved.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazing_Randi

I don't recommend hanging out at his forums unless you're into the the nazi brigade thing. It seems to be the ultra-anti-anti-science haven. Many of them are scientists, too.

...but what I mean is, it isn't a dead person, it's something else.  A rip in a dimensional barrier, unique properties in a room "recording" an event, ect... but NOT a spirit of some person.

A...dimensional rift. Like, that's any different? Maybe they're the same thing?...or go together??


There was a time with a girlfriend and her daugher some years ago. This was in the mid afternoon, actually, no blinds on the windows, fully lit: we're in her daughter's bedroom, and all of a sudden she starts freaking out about someone coming to get her. Like she could see them, but they weren't there in the room. Like in a different space-time but viewable to each other. I got a little spooked, because I didn't think she was playing or was mental, and it wasn't something I was into if it was going to be a bad thing - you know, like not wanting to have to fight someone but preparing for it if it's seen coming - so we tried to assure her nothing was wrong and she eventually calmed down on her own.

My own direct experiences have mostly been of the mystical sort rather than horrific, which I think is partly because I don't have a mind and preference for the horrific.

[mameotron]

This is most disturbing and too hard for most to swallow, because that would mean
they would have to shoot down their own ideas about religion.

I guess that depends on what religion you believe.

As a christian I know there are no ghosts.  When people die they go on a one way trip upstairs or downstairs.  Nothing remains here.

There are "demons" that inhabit the earth and we generally can't directly interact with them.  Why?  I'd say they've changed their methods and don't really need to anymore to accomplish their purpose.

The point I'm making is that my religion identifies and describes supernatural phenomenon, but offers a different explanation than "ghosts".  I don't know what religion you're referring to, but I think you may need to shoot down your idea of religion.

[Xiaou2]

As a christian I know there are no ghosts.  When people die they go on a one way trip upstairs or downstairs.  Nothing remains here.

 Nobody can know the unknown.   I dont care what you are.    I especially find it
offensive when someone claims to possess the truth and is somehow above everyone
else.

 Until you are dead,  you dont know any more than anyone else.   All your beliefs
have no bearing on the truth.   They are mere OPINIONS until you can prove
otherwise.

 Until that time, turn off your  "Holier than Thou"  Attitude!

 
 If you want to tell people your OPINIONS,   then make sure to phase them as
such.    Such as  "As a christian,  I believe that there are no ghosts."   Dont claim
to tell me or ANYONE ELSE what IS TRUTH!

[ark_ader]

As a christian I know there are no ghosts.  When people die they go on a one way trip upstairs or downstairs.  Nothing remains here.

 Nobody can know the unknown.   I dont care what you are.    I especially find it
offensive when someone claims to possess the truth and is somehow above everyone
else.

 Until you are dead,  you dont know any more than anyone else.   All your beliefs
have no bearing on the truth.   They are mere OPINIONS until you can prove
otherwise.

 Until that time, turn off your  "Holier than Thou"  Attitude!

 
 If you want to tell people your OPINIONS,   then make sure to phase them as
such.    Such as  "As a christian,  I believe that there are no ghosts."   Dont claim
to tell me or ANYONE ELSE what IS TRUTH!

Every Monday morning I wake up dead to the world.  It takes me 4 cups of Verona just to determine if I am still dead or awake. 

This forum is EE not PnR.  Please let us not confuse or infuse this thread with religion.  I have seen things and experienced enough to stop rationalizing things.   If I encounter a cold spot or an apparition, I do not get my bible out and look for a solution or explanation.

There are so many things we don't understand, and to be honest I'm not in a hurry to figure out.  Let's be spooky and leave it at that.  Besides what if we are wrong about how our world works and these things we see, feel and touch are real?  I know.. But what IF?   

[mameotron]

Until that time, turn off your  "Holier than Thou"  Attitude!
 

That's funny, coming from you!   

It's true, this ain't the PNR board.  I'm not gonna respond anymore.

[hypernova]

I can't hardly wait until I'm dead and have nothing better to do than float around and screw with the living.

 

Well, no police can arrest you for rape, I suppose is one way of looking at that.

Paranormal...   What a humorous load of crap.

[Xiaou2]

I can't hardly wait until I'm dead and have nothing better to do than float around and screw with the living.

 So, if you die suddenly, and actually have loved ones who you care greatly about...
You wouldnt want to try to see what they are up to?


 There are said to be a few main reasons why souls stick around.   One pertains
to being in a violent death.   In which the soul is tormented and does not respond
to being guided into the next realm of existence (reincarnation) by other helper souls.

 The other is as I posted... about now wanting to leave the side of loved ones.


 Other reasons:

 Belief systems.   Some spirits are said to follow their corpse all the way to the
ground... in which they will then wait for the day when Jesus will pull them out.


 Angry/Wicked souls - In which a psycho soul cant be tamed/convinced.   Sticks around to
make trouble, as it did in its lifetime.   May possibly join forces with other like
souls to gain more power in the physical realm... which is what I believe is what
a Poltergeist really is.

 
 Non human vigilant souls are said to exist... and who knows how and why they do.
Possibly they are from other planes of existence.


 It would seem also, that the Spiritual realm is not quite as clear as the physical..
where as its almost like a continual dreamworld to some of them.   They get
confused and stuck in patterns... as if living in a loop of a repeating event.

 Of course, there are those who believe that some of these apparitions are merely
some sort of imprint in time/space.   Sort of like a hologram of a past event that
has been imprinted in the universe.

 On the other hand... there are intelligent hauntings... in which the spirits will
interact with a person in realtime.

Paranormal...   What a humorous load of crap.

 Really?  Explain how the universe was formed from the very first atom?
How was all the material here to start out with?
How is it even possible that things have any form of Consciousness?

 Creations and Life itself is a miracle beyond explanation.   Its very much on the
same exact level of the LABEL of Paranormal.