Author Topic: Removing auto tire from rim (Read 3011 times)

ChadTower · « **on:** August 20, 2006, 04:09:44 pm »

I have a couple of wheels in my backyard that I need to recycle. Don't care if the tire comes off usable or if I damage the rim. I need to separate tire and rim before I can recycle them.

How do I do that? I've tried all sorts of things, even took a hacksaw to the tire but it stalled on the steel belts.

saint · « **Reply #1 on:** August 20, 2006, 06:44:27 pm »

No clue for a DIY job, but I bet a garage would only charge you a few bucks to do it for you, if that....

AtomSmasher · « **Reply #2 on:** August 20, 2006, 06:48:04 pm »

Quote from: saint on August 20, 2006, 06:44:27 pm

No clue for a DIY job, but I bet a garage would only charge you a few bucks to do it for you, if that....

I was just about to suggest this. It will only take them a minute, and if its anything like the tire places I've been to the cost is whatever you decide to tip the guy.

ChadTower · « **Reply #3 on:** August 20, 2006, 07:00:49 pm »

I might try that... a bit annoying to have to pay to separate them just so I can pay to recycle them.

TOK · « **Reply #4 on:** August 20, 2006, 09:06:11 pm »

Easiest way is probably to let the air out and cut them off. If you have a car/truck with any metal on the bumpers (rare anymore!), you can put a bumper jack iunder the bumper, and put the base on the deflated tire. As you jack, the base of the jack will compress the tire and the vehicles weight will break the bead from the rim. My buddy and I actually did that one time and removed the tire from the rim with motorcycle tire irons without damaging either the wheel or tire... What a couple of dumbasses with lots of time and no money! $:-\$

ChadTower · « **Reply #5 on:** August 20, 2006, 09:15:37 pm »

These rims are already trash and do not fit any car I own. They were in the shed when we bought the house... now the shed is gone so the wheels need to be gone. They haven't had air in them in who knows how many years and there is no seal to speak of.

NightGod · « **Reply #6 on:** August 20, 2006, 10:18:06 pm »

Sawz-all.

The answer to most of life's difficult questions.

Bones · « **Reply #7 on:** August 21, 2006, 07:59:09 am »

Use petrol and burn them off.

Why you want to make everything so difficult?

ChadTower · « **Reply #8 on:** August 21, 2006, 08:14:10 am »

Quote from: NightGod on August 20, 2006, 10:18:06 pm

Sawz-all.

The answer to most of life's difficult questions.

I do have a zip saw, but with those metal belts in there, a strong manual hacksaw was having trouble. I'd hate to hit the rim with a sawzall and cut my head open.

Negativecreep0 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 21, 2006, 08:44:13 am »

I have a recycling company and we detire rims all the time, sawzall is fine worst that will happen is you mess up your blade if anything but should cut smooth right through although thicker tires might take some muscle..........

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #10 on:** August 21, 2006, 11:45:19 am »

Quote from: Negativecreep0 on August 21, 2006, 08:44:13 am

I have a recycling company and we detire rims all the time, sawzall is fine worst that will happen is you mess up your blade if anything but should cut smooth right through although thicker tires might take some muscle..........

Too bad Chad's biggest muscle's in his mouth...

ChadTower · « **Reply #11 on:** August 21, 2006, 03:13:55 pm »

Can't quite get it in there... can get it in your mom's mouth, though.

Thenasty · « **Reply #12 on:** August 21, 2006, 07:24:09 pm »

just dig a big hole and bury it

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #13 on:** August 21, 2006, 07:56:37 pm »

Tires make great homes for fish and turtles. Do the environment a favor and throw them in a river.

SirPeale · « **Reply #14 on:** August 21, 2006, 09:36:03 pm »

Cool Guy recently found himself the owner of a three wheeler. One of the tires was junk and wouldn't hold air, so we had to take it off. We tried pulling it off, we tried prying it off...no dice. We just couldn't break the bead.

All of a sudden...inspiration hit. Cool Guy used to work as a mechanic, and changed literally hundreds if not thousands of tires, so he knew the mechanics of the deal.

He got a section of 2x6, about two feet long. Lay the tire flat, lay the 2x6 on the tire, just short of the rim.

Then he pulled his car up to and onto the 2x6, slowly. One person (me) was in front to keep the tire from sliding. He barely pulled forward when the bead broke.

NightGod · « **Reply #15 on:** August 21, 2006, 09:43:24 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 21, 2006, 08:14:10 am

Quote from: NightGod on August 20, 2006, 10:18:06 pm
Sawz-all.

The answer to most of life's difficult questions.

I do have a zip saw, but with those metal belts in there, a strong manual hacksaw was having trouble. I'd hate to hit the rim with a sawzall and cut my head open.

If you have the right blade, the Sawzall will cut through the rim, too. Those things are pretty damn sturdy. Also, they move at a low enough speed that you're not likely to injure yourself with one unless you're completely stupid during use.

ChadTower · « **Reply #16 on:** August 23, 2006, 03:21:29 pm »

I don't have a sawzall, I have a zipsaw. Think small handheld jigsaw. Not built for power.

What is the bead? Is that the seal against the rim? If that''s what it is, that's already broken... I just can't get the edge of the tire over the edge of the rim. It looks like maybe the rim is too big for the tire.

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #17 on:** August 23, 2006, 04:48:13 pm »

If you're thinking about using a car and a 2x6 you should video tape it.

A guy getting hit in the crotch with a 2x6 video is always funny.

Kevin Mullins · « **Reply #18 on:** August 23, 2006, 05:48:06 pm »

Quote from: ChadTower on August 23, 2006, 03:21:29 pm

I just can't get the edge of the tire over the edge of the rim.

That in itself is an artform. (having had to do 24" rim tractor tires before)

If the bead is already broke on both sides, then you're off to a good start.
The key is two if not three pry bars and maybe a hammer to help get them between the wheel and tire.
You have to stand on one side of the tire so that the bead (edge of rubber tire that touches the rim) stays toward the center of the rim.
Using your prybars, work on the opposite side of the tire.
Use the first one to get it started, leave it there and use the others to work your way around the tire.
Take small bites each time you relocate the prybars. Just a couple inches at a time or less.
After you get around a bit, take the original prybar out so that the tire will slide over the rim.
Once you get about half way around it should just whip right off.
Of course you'll have to do this twice to get the second side off.
But the second side usually is a little easier. Same principal.
But hold (block) tire up to the center of rim instead of standing down on it.

Or..... just take it somewhere for a couple bucks. Small tire shops will usually help ya out like that.

(and re-mouting them is even cooler..... we can play with butane and fireballs)

MikeDeuce · « **Reply #19 on:** August 23, 2006, 06:39:57 pm »

If you don't have any pry bars at all, I've used a fiberglass reinforced cut off wheels to cut through tires a few times. I just cut a straight line through one side from bead to bead. While it did take several minutes to get done, it didn't really have any trouble getting through anything.

ChadTower · « **Reply #20 on:** August 24, 2006, 08:30:00 am »

Heh, tried the prybar thing... bent two bars doing it.

I guess both me and the tire were stronger than the bars.

I'm probably going to just bust out the zipsaw and cut it. I did pretty well with the manual hacksaw until I got to the steel belt and then the teeth were too far apart to cut through the individual pieces of metal.

Stingray · « **Reply #21 on:** August 24, 2006, 04:41:17 pm »

Pity you're all the way on the other side of the country. I'd do this for you for free if you were in my area. All of the DIY suggestions that I can think of have already been suggested.

-S

DrewKaree · « **Reply #22 on:** August 27, 2006, 02:45:01 pm »

Quote from: Stingray on August 24, 2006, 04:41:17 pm

Pity you're all the way on the other side of the country. I'd do this for you for free if you were in my area. All of the DIY suggestions that I can think of have already been suggested.

-S

You want him to ship them to me? I've got a crate headed your way!

Thenasty · « **Reply #23 on:** August 27, 2006, 10:59:40 pm »

ok, did not like burying it ? Just spend $6.00 (thats 2 gallon) of gas and make sure you have some Marsmallow and have a nice FIRE......

NightGod · « **Reply #24 on:** August 28, 2006, 12:21:14 am »

I wouldn't pay to recycle them if you can avoid it. Most communities around me have a tire collection day once a year or so. With a bit of calling around, you can get rid of tires pretty much any weekend in the summer. Generally the only thing they want is for you to get them off the rims. Might also want to check local junkyards, alot of times they'll take them if they're in decent shape. Most of them have a rim machine even if they do want to charge you to take them.

ChadTower · « **Reply #25 on:** August 28, 2006, 01:40:10 pm »

Yeah, but you cannot leave them with a town of which you are not a resident. That's illegal dumping.

The couple bucks recycling charge doesn't bother me. It's the fact that I can't get them off their damn rims to do it.

NightGod · « **Reply #26 on:** August 28, 2006, 09:36:41 pm »

Huh, must be a thing where you live-the ones around me don't care where you are from. In that case, I would call local junkyards to find one that will take um for you cheap. Maybe offer that they get to keep the rims in exchange for pulling the tire off and you'll still pay the recycling fee.

ChadTower · « **Reply #27 on:** August 29, 2006, 10:21:22 am »

The rims are bent. Probably why they were in the shed to begin with. I'm just going to have to whip out the zip saw and burn through a couple blades cutting the tires off.

saint · « **Reply #28 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:02:03 am »

What's the cost of the blades vs the cost of paying someone to pull them off the rims, and factoring in your time?

ChadTower · « **Reply #29 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:09:40 am »

Probably roughly the same but you left out the amount of time it takes to find someone to do it AND to find a way to get them there in daytime/weekday when I'm usually at work.

saint · « **Reply #30 on:** August 29, 2006, 02:42:26 pm »

There's also the pleasure of acts of destruction to consider!


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