How to beat a speeding ticket

[DrewKaree]

http://x.johndoro.com/?p=136#more-136

Well, not necessarily HOW to beat a ticket, but quite an entertaining story about how HE beat a speeding ticket.  The comments are wicked funny too.  So you avoid making an ass of yourself, I'll help you out here.

HE STATES THAT HE WAS NOT SPEEDING, AND BEING BEHIND A CITY BUS THAT DOES 35 MPH TOPS, AT THAT TIME OF THE DAY, SHOULD TELL YOU HE COULDN'T HAVE BEEN SPEEDING EITHER, AND THAT HE SUPPOSES THE RICER IN THE LEFT LANE IS WHAT WAS TAGGED AS THE SPEEDER.

This has been on several sites, including digg.com, and he says he may be close to exceeding his bandwidth limit. 

Get it while it's hot

[BackAgain]

Great story!  I love it when people make the effort to argue their case.  I was involved in a sort of similar incident once.  It wasn't speeding, I had a court-appointed lawyer who kept telling me to just plead guilty and take the fine.  I was literally arguing with this guy as we waited in court, but I stood up in front of the judge and respectfully said my piece.  He knocked the charge down and fined me only court costs (about $57).

But I do agree with one person's response to this story.  I think 7 out of 10 judges will say, "The police officer is trained in identifying and clocking speeders.  If he said it was you, I believe him.  Guilty as charged."

I would feel better about going to court and losing instead of not going and losing by default.  But then again, I'm assuming this guy was innocent.  If I really was speeding I doubt I'd put up this kind of fight just to beat it.

[c64rulez]

Once I was doing 100mph on a highway, when a police car lines up with me. I rolled down the window and started screaming at them "THE GAS PEDAL IS JAMMED, YOU MUST HELP ME!!!".
They were kind enough to explain that I should kick it so it might release. I than simply got my foot off the gas pedal and slowed to a halt.
When I thanked them I was sweating and my heart was pounding, and it seemed genuine to them...

[patrickl]

In the Netherlands a mathmatician calculated his exact speed from a picture taken by a radar camera (or whatever you call this in english). He found out that the angle of the camera was incorrect so he corrected his speed for the deviation in the angle. Obviously the camera is corrected for a certain angle so if the angle is different the correction is wrong and the resulting speed higher or lower than the actual speed. He won because the machine was faulty so alll evidence coming from it was dismissed. I'll bet they didn't call the other people who were on that roll. As I recall it was a hard fight though.

In a similar fashion there was a template where the car should be in the picture to check if the angle of the radar camera was setup correctly. If the car is not in the correct spot on the picture then the setup is wrong an dthe fine can be contested.

Actually, I was in court myself a few weeks ago (I had a radar detector in my car and they found the "invisible" device with some radar detector detector ) and the guy before me actually pleaded he didn't know the speed limit signs over the highway were really limits. He "thought" they were just an advisory speed. Lol. Needles to say the judge was unimpressed and raised his fine by 20% for whining.

[danny_galaga]

you silly bugger, i thought there was no speed limit on dutch autobahns?

[Dexter]

The latest here in Ireland is that if you fight the fine in court and lose they increase your fine and double the number of penalty points on your licence for the offence. In other words, please feel free to question the police, but we'll more than  likely nail you for doing it

[Thenasty]

"The judge presiding over the case told me

[ChadTower]

Once I was doing 100mph on a highway, when a police car lines up with me. I rolled down the window and started screaming at them "THE GAS PEDAL IS JAMMED, YOU MUST HELP ME!!!".
They were kind enough to explain that I should kick it so it might release. I than simply got my foot off the gas pedal and slowed to a halt.
When I thanked them I was sweating and my heart was pounding, and it seemed genuine to them...

   Suuuuure.  What they would do is tail you, when you did not stop they would call for backup and then possibly a road block because they had a runner.  You would be arrested for reckless driving, driving to endanger, and probably 4 other driving related charges.

Then they'd smack you and say you could have simply turned the car off if the pedal was stuck.

[missioncontrol]

Fight the system 

[menace]

I beat a 400 ticket once just by showing up for court--if I show and the arresting officer doesn't--case dismissed!  I was pretty happy too cause the guy who gave me the ticket was a grade A a$$hole.  When he pulled me over he was yelling at me like I had just run over a busload of babies when in reality i was doing like 40 over.

[c64rulez]

Once I was doing 100mph on a highway, when a police car lines up with me. I rolled down the window and started screaming at them "THE GAS PEDAL IS JAMMED, YOU MUST HELP ME!!!".
They were kind enough to explain that I should kick it so it might release. I than simply got my foot off the gas pedal and slowed to a halt.
When I thanked them I was sweating and my heart was pounding, and it seemed genuine to them...

   Suuuuure.  What they would do is tail you, when you did not stop they would call for backup and then possibly a road block because they had a runner.  You would be arrested for reckless driving, driving to endanger, and probably 4 other driving related charges.

Then they'd smack you and say you could have simply turned the car off if the pedal was stuck.

In israel all policemen are blond 

[AtomSmasher]

I once told a cop my reason for speeding was stupidity, he said "good answer" and let me off with a warning.

[danny_galaga]

well, since we are doing the speeding stories. here's one of when i WASN'T speeding. it was way back when and i passed through a 100 zone that turned to an 80 zone. a cop pulls out and speeds up to pull me over. he tells me that he had to do 100 to catch up to me to pull me over. sometimes i can be very switched on. i pointed out to him that he would necessarily have to go over 80 to catch me since i was doing 80! he let me go (",)

[patrickl]

well, since we are doing the speeding stories. here's one of when i WASN'T speeding. it was way back when and i passed through a 100 zone that turned to an 80 zone. a cop pulls out and speeds up to pull me over. he tells me that he had to do 100 to catch up to me to pull me over. sometimes i can be very switched on. i pointed out to him that he would necessarily have to go over 80 to catch me since i was doing 80! he let me go (",)

Yeah a cop tried the same thing on me. I guess they do it to have you admit to a certain speed or something. He said he had to do 190km/h (120mph) to catch up to me. I was doing 160 (100mph) in a 120km/h zone at the time so I knew he was scamming me. So I said something similar as you Danny. I told him that of course he had to catch up since he was standing still first and had to account for the time he was accelerating from 0 to my speed and close the gap and that I was doing at most 140 . He accepted that I was doing 135 (they need to correct it down). Guess I should have been smarter and claimed I wasn't speeding at all, but the fact that I passed numerous cars might have given me away.

Usually I spot police cars pretty well. They tend to try and intimidate me after I slow down though. Of course they see me speeding in the distance, but I guess from far away they cannot claim that they know my speed. So they will catch up to me and drive close next to me or in front of me. Like to say "we saw you buddy!", but then I think "The important thing is that I saw YOU!".

[duffjr]

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[DrewKaree]

duff, you're quoting a stranger (or at least someone I'm not familiar with) that added their comments to his blog.  I have no idea if THAT guy was speeding or not.  I DO know that John has laid out his case as to the implausibility of him speeding while stuck behind a city bus.

The "I didn't have a front plate" applies to John, but Hot Wheels were never involved in his court presentation.

[duffjr]

sorry, i mixed up the 2 statements.  i guess my question is was this dude making up all that BS or was there no chance he was speeding?

[DrewKaree]

The guy's blog (John Doro) is someone I personally know.  I also have physically driven in the area where he got ticketed, and know the exact spot he was pulled over at.  If he was behind one of our city buses (which it was stated that the officer agreed with), it's simply not possible for him to have been doing more than 35 - TOPS.  The only city buses in our area that will drive faster than that are called "Freeway Flyers", and they're used, surpise , to shuttle outlying suburbanites into the city via the Freeway, and they only do 55 MAX.

I can personally vouch for him that if he says he wasn't speeding, indeed he wasn't speeding.