Bill O'Reilly And His War On Christmas!

[DrewKaree]

Oh yes, certainly, yes indeed, I find the grounds delightful, and the servants most attentive and particularly the little serving maid with the great big knockers, and when she gets going...

-S

I grabbed her grog and she slapped me right across the face.  She musta thought I was you.  It was dark.  She probably couldn't tell without that light how dead sexy I am.  I forgave her until she refused to give me a flagon of mead....or was that "she refused to flagon my mead"?

[Stingray]

I just show her my dongle.

-S

[mr.Curmudgeon]

I just show her my dongle.

-S

It's burnt! Do I smell PORKCHOP SANDWICHES!?!


mrC

[DrewKaree]

I just show her my dongle.

-S

It's burnt! Do I smell PORKCHOP SANDWICHES!?!


mrC

Someone say sammitches?

[Stingray]

**stingray runs into the room**

PORKCHOP SANDWICHES!

You're right, that is fun.

-S

[Crazy Cooter]

GET THE ---smurf--- OUT OF HERE YOU STUPID IDIOT!

http://www.orange32.com/porkchop/
Language makes this NOT safe for work.

--- edit ---
Wait... That is the edited version?  I thought they swore before?

Yep.  They swore before.  I found my local copy.

Here's the full version: http://gorillamask.net/videogijoe11.shtml

[Dartful Dodger]

it never made since to me that the two major religious holidays involve make believe characters.

It never made cents to me either, scents I know everything.

[Nailz]

it never made since to me that the two major religious holidays involve make believe characters.

Dammit, why do you people keep saying Santa doesn't exist, I thought Stingray was rubbing lotion on him somewhere...

Don't tell me what you're doing with the Easter Bunny, I will FREAK OUT!!!!!

[paigeoliver]

On the sex offenders note. Whatever they do they really need to remove "Providing pornographic material to a minor" from the ranks of sex offender laws. I'm sorry, but I just don't see how not checking someone's ID for a copy of Playboy is a big enough offense to brand someone for life with restrictions that seem to be aimed at serial child rapists.

[Bones]

On the sex offenders note. Whatever they do they really need to remove "Providing pornographic material to a minor" from the ranks of sex offender laws. I'm sorry, but I just don't see how not checking someone's ID for a copy of Playboy is a big enough offense to brand someone for life with restrictions that seem to be aimed at serial child rapists.

For a Playboy... Totally agree.

[shmokes]

yeah he's a little crazy, but it does piss me off when people cant say merry Christmas anymore.  yes im a Christian, but if i went around saying happy kwanza, even if someone did get offended, they wouldnt do anything about it.  its just cuz the majority of people in the US celebrate Christmas, and there are a few retarded liberals out there pitching a fit cuz they are being "offended".  bull crap. 

if anyone should be offended it should be the Christians.  our sacred holidays have been butchered.  instead of the true meaning of easter, we hear about bunnies and candy and thats ALL thats said.  instead of the birth of Jesus, we get ho ho ho, and its all about friendship and the family and NOTHING else.  if i went around saying "happy january 17th!  its all about beer and pretzels!"  instead of "happy Martin Luther King Jr. day"  i'd be critcized by everyone and their mom. 

even the hippies and atheists can see all this crap that is going on. 

While I agree with much of this sentiment, I feel that for your sake I shouldn't egg you on.  Normal people aren't as Jesus freaky as you until they are all grown up and have had their souls pounded out of them by a life characterized by disappointment, dull routine and years of failing to relate to and/or exert any kind of meaningful influence/control on their teenagers.  Actually normal people never reach your level of religeous fanatacism.  You, on the other hand, are only like 23 years old or something and are already so wacko that you'll manage to teach your kids to hate you, and jesus while they're at it, by the time they're 13 or 14. 

It would be sad if it weren't simultaneously so hilarious. 

[Bones]

While I agree with much of this sentiment, I feel that for your sake I shouldn't egg you on.  Normal people aren't as Jesus freaky as you until they are all grown up and have had their souls pounded out of them by a life characterized by disappointment, dull routine and years of failing to relate to and/or exert any kind of meaningful influence/control on their teenagers.  Actually normal people never reach your level of religeous fanatacism.  You, on the other hand, are only like 23 years old or something and are already so wacko that you'll manage to teach your kids to hate you, and jesus while they're at it, by the time they're 13 or 14. 

It would be sad if it weren't simultaneously so hilarious. 

Not cool Shmokes, and I am an athiest.....

[shmokes]

Well, no, perhaps not.  But I find it pretty comical that, especially as an atheist, you're fired up and ready to run to the rescue of the god person who's sensitivity isn't being respected, when that same person referred to the people who disagree with his point of view as:

a few retarded liberals out there pitching a fit cuz they are being "offended".
 

You'll have to excuse me if I'm not too worried about his thin skin.  I ain't attacking his religion anyway. 

My point, perhaps crudely made, is that it is exactly the outcome the he, or any parent, will likely reach when they get so caught up in an idea that they do ridiculous things like not letting their kids participate in halloween because it's a pagaan holiday (as though Christmas isn't) or refusing to allow Santa or the Easter Bunny into the holidays because they aren't Christian constructs.  I should note that I'm drawing from Hulksters posts in other threads regarding religion; I'm not just infering this stuff from his short post in this thread.

If it makes me seem any less mean I would say exactly the same thing to Hulkster if he was an Atheist who wouldn't celebrate Christmas or Halloween because they originated as (and, at least with Christmas, still is to a large degree) religeous holidays.  And it's what I meant by, "While I agree with much of this sentiment."  Because I think people are lame who won't say, "Merry Christmas," or who insist that it has to be called X-mas.  It wasn't an attack on his religion, it's an attack on fanaticism.

In my opinion Hulkster's attitude and behavior toward religion will more than likely lead to his kids rejecting it which, if I was on some kind of anti-religion mission, I should just be rubbing my hands together while thinking to myself, "mwahahahaha little does he know what's in store for him when his own actions lead to 'my side' gaining his children as new members".

So, could I have been cooler about it?  I guess.  But it's not like I said he's a retard for believing in God.  I said that the lengths he goes to to express his religious views are abnormally extreme and will likely lead to results that he would be very unhappy with.  Hulkster, I assume, would be the last person to argue that his behavior is somehow common or normal, considering that he is fully aware of (and dismayed by) how Christmas, Easter and Halloween are celebrated by the vast majority of Christians. 


Going all self-righteous and fanatic on your kids will lead to exactly what I described in my last post.  It's where the rebellious preacher's son stereotype stems from.   

[Bones]

I understand your view point and actually agree.

But often it doesn't need to be said, it is just being unnecessarily aggressive . You got the brain and adequate talent, but you need to learn self control.

Besides, one of the few rights we all have as humans is the right to raise our kids the way we think is best. What happens as a result of our efforts is life.

[shmokes]

What can I say?  It's a vice.    I can't help myself. 

I'm up till the crack of dawn because I have homework I need to finish and here I am making trouble on BYOAC.

[Grasshopper]

Besides, one of the few rights we all have as humans is the right to raise our kids the way we think is best. What happens as a result of our efforts is life.

Only up to a point. If for instance a couple decide not to send their child to school or tutor him/her at home then in most countries the state will step in to protect the child's interests. The same applies to parents who sexually or emotionally abuse their children.

Parents don't own their children, nobody does, and there will always be a tension between the rights of society at large to decide how children should be brought up and the rights of parents to decide the same. The question is where you draw the line.

[Bones]

Only up to a point. If for instance a couple decide not to send their child to school or tutor him/her at home then in most countries the state will step in to protect the child's interests. The same applies to parents who sexually or emotionally abuse their children.

Parents don't own their children, nobody does, and there will always be a tension between the rights of society at large to decide how children should be brought up and the rights of parents to decide the same. The question is where you draw the line.

Well yes, some kids need rescuing from their parents but as a general rule, most good parents should never expect or require the state to ever intervine in order to uphold their children's best interests. This is the sole job of being a parent if nothing else.

Provided of course the kids are raised within normal socially acceptable boundaries and lets be honest, such boundaries are and should be quite diverse.

I also feel that parents do own their children. To suggest otherwise is just a play on words.

[fredster]

WTF? I brought mine in this world, and I can take them out.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

WTF? I brought mine in this world, and I can take them out.

So you are pro retroactive abortion! I knew you weren't as Conservative as you claim to be.


mrC

[Setabs]

What I'm questioning is why the rash of female teachers seem to be treated WAAAAAY less harshly.  If you swapped out the female teacher and male student and told the SAME story about some 40-year-old MALE student and his female student, there'd be nightly stories on your local news about "OMG WHADOWEDO WHADOWEDO?!?!?"  Instead, it's looked at as "man, talk about every boy's fantasy!"

Heck, just look at the disgust we have when a priest does it.  Why should a female teacher be any different?  They wanted equal rights, now give it to 'em

It not only matters if they female but if they look good too.

"Debra Lafave, 25, will serve three years of house arrest and seven years of probation. She pleaded guilty Tuesday to two counts of lewd and lascivious battery. If convicted at trial in Hillsborough County, she could have faced up to 15 years in prison on each count."




"A woman who authorities said had sex with high school boys during alcohol- and drug-fueled parties has been sentenced to 30 years in prison, officials said."



Geisel was sentenced to six months in jail, but that includes time already served. She should be out sometime this month.

After her jail term, Geisel will be on probation for 10 years.

[shmokes]

That seems reasonable   

[DrewKaree]

Yeah, I forgot about the ONE teacher they threw the book at.  It's hard to keep up lately with all the female child-molesting teachers.  Natrually, the uggos are the ones that you try to forget the quickest

Even the ones who have terrible prison pics taken are still pretty when they've got their warpaint on

Because I think people are lame who won't say, "Merry Christmas," or who insist that it has to be called X-mas.

I have just recently read about "X-mas".  Something (and I'm HORRIBLY paraphrasing here) about the X being the greek/hebrew/something letter used to denote or represent Christ.  I'm not certain who/how Christmas got turned into X-mas, but I wonder if someone had learned this and started using it so as not to offend their "non-religious" friends while still trying to keep Christ in their Christmas, and it ended up being an offensive word as people now believe it to be doing just the opposite.

It'd be something I'd look into if I were outraged over it, but I care less about it than turning everything into "holidays" around Christmas.  And I don't care that much about it.  There's more ACTUAL religious significance to Hannukah than Christmas, really, and that's a religion that seems to be way down on the list for being taught in school too.  Mebbe it's looked at as an honor...being persecuted for being Jewish.

What is the reason to celebrate around this time of December if you don't believe in religion?  The customs and practices are for the most part tied to religion and its practice, so do you not give gifts to others or gather as a family so as to be consistent in your views (not shmokes specifically, anyone not wanting this time to be considered a religious holiday), or if so, how have you removed it from religion? 

It should be as celebrated as Washington's birthday or Labor Day if you wish to consider it to be a non-religious-themed holiday then, shouldn't it?  We'd all have an extra day off, and we'd have a cookout and whatnot.  And don't tell me just because you live someplace it's cold or snows that you wouldn't cook out.  Being a sissy is no reason not to celebrate with a cookout

[mr.Curmudgeon]

Why didn't any of these hot teachers molest ME when I was in school!?  I was asking for it!



mrC

[ChadTower]

My teachers were all old women.  I'm glad no teachers tried to molest me.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

My teachers were all old women.  I'm glad no teachers tried to molest me.

That's why I added the keyword "hot" to my question! heh.  I did have some hot teachers that I often hoped would take advantage of me in Middle School and High School. I got a lot of detention, on purpose, but nothing ever came of it. 



mrC

[Grasshopper]

My teachers were all old women.  I'm glad no teachers tried to molest me.

What a deprived childhood you had. 

[ChadTower]

I got a lot of detention, but that was mostly because I had a smart mouth.

I think at one point I had detention every day for nearly 3 straight school years.

[DrewKaree]

Why didn't any of these hot teachers molest ME when I was in school!?  I was asking for it!



mrC

Easy.  The phrase "net half-shirt" comes to mind

[Crazy Cooter]

It should be as celebrated as Washington's birthday or Labor Day if you wish to consider it to be a non-religious-themed holiday then, shouldn't it?  We'd all have an extra day off, and we'd have a cookout and whatnot.  And don't tell me just because you live someplace it's cold or snows that you wouldn't cook out.  Being a sissy is no reason not to celebrate with a cookout

I've fired up the BBq when it's below 0 outside.  We'd never stop celebrating x-mas though.  Too much money involved.  Same thing with all those other craptacular holidays.  There isn't a day in the year where we're not supposed to be working or buying something.  I'm all for the "nothing holiday".  Kind of like "August Day" in Canada.  A holiday about having a day off work and that's it.  No gifts, no honey-do stuff, nothing.  Just sleep in.

[ChadTower]

That is supposed to be what mother and father days are for...

Though, I got into a fight with my wife on Father's Day last year.  She got up before I did and took the kids out for the day.  I'm like, WTF, it's Father's Day and you took my kids so I can't spend the day with them.  She figured she was giving me a day of quiet and rest.  Go figure.

[ErikRuud]

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[DrewKaree]

This should get the topic back on track.

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And the bonus is, when you go to print those cards out, you'll have to use type so small, no one will be able to read it, making it even MORE certain not to offend

I think I'll have the wife print those out as gag cards to wrap around the real ones

[shmokes]

What is the reason to celebrate around this time of December if you don't believe in religion?  The customs and practices are for the most part tied to religion and its practice,

For exactly the same reason you choose this time of year.  Think about it.  Dec. 25 does not coincide with the actual anniversary of the alleged birth of Christ.  The date and most of the traditions of Christmas that you participate in are copped directly and unchanged from a religion that you don't believe in (Pagaanism).  Quite similar, in fact, to my situation if you think about it.  So what is the reason for you to celebrate around THIS time of year?

Because it's fun

Why do we have parties on Friday nights instead of Wednesday nights?  Because more people will show up.  What makes Christmas such an amazing time of year is that EVERYONE is celebrating.  Do you really think it would be a suitable replacement for you to celebrate Christmas on April 6 (the date many people ascribe to the actual anniversary of the birth of Christ) or any other day of the year?  Do you think that the same Christmas electricity would exist for you or your children as you counted down the days, April 1, April 2, April 3... 

I celebrate it cos it's the best damned party of the year and I'm not gonna stay home on account of a less than ideal venue.

[ChadTower]

Why do we have parties on Friday nights instead of Wednesday nights?

[DrewKaree]

So what is the reason for you to celebrate around THIS time of year?

They couldn't find his birth certificate and some knucklehead took the heathens at their word

[shmokes]

Why do we have parties on Friday nights instead of Wednesday nights?  Because more people will show up. 

Erm, not really.  We have them Friday because most people don't have to wake up early for work on Saturday.

Your not saying anything different than me.  I said that we have them on Friday nights so people will come.  Of course it's not mere coincidence that more people come to parties on Friday.  I know why more people come on Friday.  I figured that the reasons the turnout is better on Fridays go without saying.

[DrewKaree]

I figured that the reasons the turnout is better on Fridays go without saying.

You shoulda told Chad beforehand.  He figured you were an asshat

[ChadTower]

You shoulda told Chad beforehand.

[Havok]

Merry Christmas everyone, and kiss my azz for wishing you said merryness...

P.S. Bill O'Reilly is an asshat.

[ChadTower]

P.S. Bill O'Reilly is an asshat.

Anyone who does radio/tv commentary for a living is an asshat.  It is a job requirement.