Author Topic: Flying to Nevada from Illinois with a gun (Read 20212 times)

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #80 on:** February 18, 2005, 07:53:01 pm »

Quote from: shmokes on February 18, 2005, 07:43:46 pm

I'm glad you stopped the rape, but anecdotal evidence is pretty weak when you're trying to support something.

shmokes · « **Reply #81 on:** February 18, 2005, 07:53:53 pm »

Quote from: DrewKaree on February 18, 2005, 07:51:10 pm

The vomit would be the thing that killed me....you can rest easy knowing you're off the hook, shmokes...as long as you aren't a fastball pitcher with a handful of bullets.

See...now that's just gross Drew. Presumably you are talking about drowning in it. Or perhaps such violent projectile vomiting that you are killed by the impact.

shmokes · « **Reply #82 on:** February 18, 2005, 07:55:51 pm »

Teachers SHOULD NOT have sidearms LMAO

Bones · « **Reply #83 on:** February 18, 2005, 07:57:00 pm »

Quote from: fredster on February 18, 2005, 07:41:00 pm

I have had a gun within 20 feet of me in my house all of my life. I shot my first gun at 4 1/2.

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #84 on:** February 18, 2005, 07:57:06 pm »

St Pauly Girl Dark is a great chaser of Jagermeifter (spelling?)
My Pentacostal wife, would give me the hairy eyeball, however. Perhaps we should meet at the border, and keep it our little secret.

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #85 on:** February 18, 2005, 07:58:56 pm »

Quote from: BrokenBones1 on February 18, 2005, 07:57:00 pm

Quote from: fredster on February 18, 2005, 07:41:00 pm
I have had a gun within 20 feet of me in my house all of my life. I shot my first gun at 4 1/2.

fredster · « **Reply #86 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:01:20 pm »

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I'm much more tolerable in person.

I can't get over that.

When somebody stops a crime with a gun, it's not news. It doesn't get on the news until somebody gets shot in a crime.

It perpetuates the myth that guns are evil when all that is reported is bad.

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If I could put myself in your shoes I believe I could be a gun owner and act in a socially acceptable way. But damn, sitting here right now in my little world I have no motivation to own a gun or even seriously contemplate it.

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #87 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:06:05 pm »

Quote from: fredster on February 18, 2005, 08:01:20 pm

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I'm much more tolerable in person.

I can't get over that.

When somebody stops a crime with a gun, it's not news. It doesn't get on the news until somebody gets shot in a crime.

It perpetuates the myth that guns are evil when all that is reported is bad.

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If I could put myself in your shoes I believe I could be a gun owner and act in a socially acceptable way. But damn, sitting here right now in my little world I have no motivation to own a gun or even seriously contemplate it.

fredster · « **Reply #88 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:07:45 pm »

Back when we were truly free, I was in highschool in 75-79 we carried our guns to school in the pickup trucks. I had a gun rack with a .22 in it. It was standard issue.

I had a buck knife on my belt in school. I didn't even think about it as a weapon.

shmokes · « **Reply #89 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:11:14 pm »

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When somebody stops a crime with a gun, it's not news. It doesn't get on the news until somebody gets shot in a crime.

It perpetuates the myth that guns are evil when all that is reported is bad.

Or maybe it doesn't happen very often. I'm pretty sure that only a tiny portion of the population packs heat wherever they go. Most gun owners to not carry them. Most probably lock them up and hope to never use them or only use them to hunt. I'm also pretty sure that, generally speaking, people don't get raped in plain sight of other people (or robbed or stabbed or whatever). Odds are probably extraordinarily low that any crime is going to be thwarted by an armed citizen.

I think it's your imagination running wild, rather than a lack of interest by the media that's going on here.

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #90 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:12:42 pm »

Quote from: fredster on February 18, 2005, 08:07:45 pm

Back when we were truly free, I was in highschool in 75-79 we carried our guns to school in the pickup trucks. I had a gun rack with a .22 in it. It was standard issue.

I had a buck knife on my belt in school. I didn't even think about it as a weapon.

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #91 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:17:11 pm »

Quote from: shmokes on February 18, 2005, 08:11:14 pm

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When somebody stops a crime with a gun, it's not news. It doesn't get on the news until somebody gets shot in a crime.

It perpetuates the myth that guns are evil when all that is reported is bad.

Or maybe it doesn't happen very often.

shmokes · « **Reply #92 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:23:16 pm »

Heh...that poor bastard had his career ruined and it turns out he didn't kill her afterall.

fredster · « **Reply #93 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:40:32 pm »

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Heh...that poor bastard

Gary Conduit was anything but poor. Remember that guy? What a joke. At least it pointed up what a tool he was. I was amazed at his straight face the whole time. Playing around with young women like that. Who'd he think he was? Bill Clinton?

My old neighbor was a heating and air guy. Carried his glock wherever he went. He related a couple of stories where the mere presence of his weapon twarted some would be thieves. He had to whip it out only once.

Never made the news. Never made the Statistics.

He called his glock his "American Express" because he didn't leave home without it.

It's great to be an American isn't it?

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #94 on:** February 18, 2005, 08:43:24 pm »

Quote from: fredster on February 18, 2005, 08:40:32 pm

He called his glock his "American Express" because he didn't leave home without it.

As long as he didn't use it to make a bank withdrawl.

Tailgunner · « **Reply #95 on:** February 19, 2005, 06:22:40 am »

Quote from: Dartful Dodger on February 17, 2005, 02:44:03 pm

I flew from O'Hare to Las Vegas last week, and my friends and I brought some guns with us.
*snip*
You can see a big difference in the Vegas and Chicago attitude when it comes to guns.

Heh, this reminds me a lot of an experience I had traveling in the mid 90's at LAX. I'd hate to see what it's like these days.

DrewKaree · « **Reply #96 on:** February 19, 2005, 08:35:19 am »

lucindrea · « **Reply #97 on:** February 19, 2005, 10:01:19 am »

Quote from: Sephroth57 on February 17, 2005, 03:07:36 pm

wtf u guys doing with all these guns anyway lol

i plan on getting a handgun once i get a house but u got all this fancy <auto-censored>, heh

well if your getting a handgun to protect your home , your much better off getting a shotgun , think of it .. if you were robing a house and someone in the dark pulled out a gun and cocked the hammer and said i have a gun , it just doesn't have the same effect as the sound of a shotgun pump :-) most guys know you will NOT miss with that ( OK cocking a semi may have a similar sound , but still not as statement making )

Magnet_Eye · « **Reply #98 on:** February 19, 2005, 05:23:14 pm »

Quote from: DrewKaree on February 18, 2005, 07:08:42 pm

TERRIBLE analogy. The tires are, in fact, a part of the car, unlike the bullet, HOWEVER, the tires can be removed, slid over you and your torso so you couldn't move your arms, have you tossed into a lake, and since you couldn't move your arms, the tires, in fact, would have killed you in that case.

You got to be joking. Terrible analogy? and you follow it up with the idea that someone is going to slide tires over my body to kill me? LMAO! HAHHAHAHAHAH!

So, in that sense I could grab a rifle by the barrel, and smash in your face with the butt end. This actually does happen. so there. guns killl people.

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #99 on:** February 19, 2005, 06:06:59 pm »

Quote from: Magnet_Eye on February 19, 2005, 05:23:14 pm

Quote from: DrewKaree on February 18, 2005, 07:08:42 pm
TERRIBLE analogy.

fredster · « **Reply #100 on:** February 19, 2005, 06:46:37 pm »

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Lions don't eat people, people eat people.
(Statisticly. Lion related killings compared to canibilism, per anum.)

That is a startling Statistic.

tommy · « **Reply #101 on:** February 20, 2005, 02:35:08 pm »

I just dont get you guys saying guns kill people,are some of you watching alot of dancing gun cartoons ,do you not understand it takes a person with the power to pull the trigger ,the anger the, intent the ,fear the stupid minded not understanding what hes doing or not careing,we have all made similar statements to get the point across, my car is not going to start up and drive away with out me ,type comment saying nothing happens unless we do it, and i have to agree end post and prb end convo

-tommy

DrewKaree · « **Reply #102 on:** February 20, 2005, 02:41:04 pm »

car keys kill people.

#1

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #103 on:** February 20, 2005, 02:48:41 pm »

Beef kills people.

Apollo · « **Reply #104 on:** February 20, 2005, 02:58:47 pm »

Actually if you want to get really pedantic, In every case of death recorded or unrecorded in human history the thing that killed the person was loss of oxygen supply to the brain. In 100% of deaths.
So there.
All this stuff about knives ( and other things ) being banned because they can kill is rubbish. The point is guns are designed specifically for one purpose to dispatch life quickly and easily.
I know a lot of you are talking about how guns aren't a big deal and "I used to have one as a kid" but that is my point exactly. You are so used to the gun culture that you don't understand that most of the rest of the world views you as a bit mental. It maybe normal to you but to most other first world countries it just reinforces the whole "Americans are over weight , gun toting, illiterates". Now I know that that's a generalisation that more often than not isn't true however that's how it appears to a lot of people. I think your media does the U.S. a great disservice with the view of the U.S. that they present to the rest of the world and the citizens of the U.S. should do something about it. Remember most of what we see and read about the States is through your own media companies.

tommy · « **Reply #105 on:** February 20, 2005, 03:33:36 pm »

The point is if someone breaks into my house id like to protect my loved ones ,and if it means he dies or i die id like to determin that

Gunstar Hero · « **Reply #106 on:** February 20, 2005, 03:37:24 pm »

Cancer kills people.

And everything causes cancer.

So EVERYTHING kills people!

DrewKaree · « **Reply #107 on:** February 20, 2005, 05:11:33 pm »

Quote from: Apollo on February 20, 2005, 02:58:47 pm

Actually if you want to get really pedantic, In every case of death recorded or unrecorded in human history the thing that killed the person was loss of oxygen supply to the brain. In 100% of deaths.

I see where you're going with this, and for the record, I'm all for banning the removal of oxygen required for breathing.

Gunstar, I don't cause cancer, therefore everything CAN'T kill people.

* DrewKaree throws a bullet at Gunstar to prove his point.

SeaMonkey · « **Reply #108 on:** February 20, 2005, 05:35:37 pm »

Quote from: Apollo on February 20, 2005, 02:58:47 pm

All this stuff about knives ( and other things ) being banned because they can kill is rubbish. The point is guns are designed specifically for one purpose to dispatch life quickly and easily.

Exactly. How useful would they be if they weren't?

Guns are pretty far down the list of things that cause death.
Statistics show they save life more often than they end life in the U.S.

So in short, we are not talking about our safety, we are talking about YOUR phobia.

Bones · « **Reply #109 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:34:38 am »

I definitely have a gun phobia. There can be no denying this. I also live in fear of heights. In my nightmares I am shot while falling from the top of a high building.

I like crossbows and potato cannons though....

shmokes · « **Reply #110 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:00:47 pm »

Perhaps heroin, cocain, crystal meth, etc. should be legalized as well. Not a single one of those substances is capable of action. They cannot walk up to me in my sleep and climb down my throat. Without human action they are perfectly harmless. Drugs don't kill people, people kill people.

Can y'all not see why I vomit whenever someone uses that argument. It's assinine.

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #111 on:** February 21, 2005, 01:19:58 pm »

Quote from: shmokes on February 21, 2005, 01:00:47 pm

Perhaps heroin, cocain, crystal meth, etc. should be legalized as well.

Perhaps we should give up our freedom of speech as well. Too many people are dieing for speaking up against the norm. They are only words, if they offend others or if people are afraid of them we'd all be better off without hearing or saying them.

In fact you should start by not posting your nonsense response.

shmokes · « **Reply #112 on:** February 21, 2005, 03:01:35 pm »

Speach is regulated. We do not have absolute freedom of speach. Drugs are regulated. Guns are regulated. All of them should be (speach the least of which, IMO)

I'm pretty sure there are at least 256 shades of grey (a.k.a. reality) between black and white. You should try hanging out there some time.

And yes, speach kills, and speach that incites someone to commit a crime is illegal, in spite of the constitutional protections.

And dieing is spelled dying, fyi. It's quirky, I know..

Sasquatch! · « **Reply #113 on:** February 21, 2005, 03:13:12 pm »

I have no interest in joining the pro-gun / anti-gun debate, but I just want to point out to DD that the city of Chicago has a total ban on all handguns, so that might be why people got a little fidgety on ya at O'Hare.

Dartful Dodger · « **Reply #114 on:** February 21, 2005, 03:39:30 pm »

Quote from: Sasquatch! on February 21, 2005, 03:13:12 pm

I have no interest in joining the pro-gun / anti-gun debate, but I just want to point out to DD that the city of Chicago has a total ban on all handguns, so that might be why people got a little fidgety on ya at O'Hare.

My Glock didn't make her fidgety; it was the assault rifle that made her jump. The funny thing about the situation, is that she asked him to show her that it was unloaded. It's not like he just randomly pulled it out of the case.

You can have a hand gun in Chicago, if you owned the handgun before the ban.

tommy · « **Reply #115 on:** February 22, 2005, 07:10:14 pm »

Its just like the old saying one person ruins things for all,some people use handguns for bad that doesnt mean ban all guns because of that,some people come on byoac and do harm so ban this forum, i think not ,place blame where it needs to be placed

SOAPboy · « **Reply #116 on:** February 22, 2005, 07:47:33 pm »

Quote from: Apollo on February 17, 2005, 10:09:06 pm

Sorry for this but you guys in the U.S. crack me up. WTF do you need guns for unless you are going hunting or are a target shooter? It's totally ridiculous how you all think wandering round the country with hand guns and ammo is normal. And Sephroth I'd do some research on how many gun shot injuries and deaths are the caused by the homeowners handgun and how many victims are the homeowners family or friends.
You guys live in lala land you really do. And you wonder why people in other countries think everyone in the US is crazy.
I know you're not all crazy but really you guys don't do yourselves any favours, and don't start quoting the constitution at me either because that "right to maintain an armed militia" thing or whatever it says is so out of date it's just funny.
Now I guess I'm going to get flamed let's see how many Americans can put up a decent argument without getting nasty.

The second the handgun laws here are fully passed, im going out and buying a new glock..

and itll be on me 24/7

Sasquatch! · « **Reply #117 on:** February 22, 2005, 10:32:15 pm »

Wait, this thread isn't about the Act-Labs gun?? Hooboy do I feel stupid now!

fredster · « **Reply #118 on:** February 22, 2005, 10:42:32 pm »

I don't even know why people have to explain a "right".

We don't have to explain breathing, or justify it. It's a "right".
We don't have to explain voting, it's a "right"
We dont' have to explain any rights, because they are rights.

There is no need to explain them, justify them, or even rationalize them.

We can own firearms. I'm happy about that. I'm happy I can vote. I'm happy I'm an American.

If an American doesn't want to own guns or vote themselves, fine. That's their choice. Me, I like to do both because it's a right to do so.

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You are so used to the gun culture that you don't understand that most of the rest of the world views you as a bit mental. It maybe normal to you but to most other first world countries it just reinforces the whole "Americans are over weight , gun toting, illiterates

My first gut reaction is "so?". My second take is "who cares?".

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I think your media does the U.S. a great disservice with the view of the U.S. that they present to the rest of the world and the citizens of the U.S. should do something about it.

My first gut reaction is "so?". My second take is "who cares?".

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The point is guns are designed specifically for one purpose to dispatch life quickly and easily.

Can't argue with that. Yep, that's what they are for. That and opening troublesome cans and bottles, and if you are really good, driving nails. But again, My first gut reaction is "so?". My second take is "who cares?".

tommy · « **Reply #119 on:** February 23, 2005, 12:18:47 am »

Dont be scared its just a picture

is this a proper thing to post on here ?


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