Flying to Nevada from Illinois with a gun

[Dartful Dodger]

I flew from O'Hare to Las Vegas last week, and my friends and I brought some guns with us.

You can see a big difference in the Vegas and Chicago attitude when it comes to guns.

I am assuming the security in Chicago is trained to ask to see if the gun is unloaded, but they probably don

[JoyMonkey]

Dumb question; you're talking about checked luggage, not carry-on, right?

[Zakk]

I had the same problem with the mortar and ICBM I took with me on vacation.

[Sephroth57]

wtf u guys doing with all these guns anyway lol

i plan on getting a handgun once i get a house but u got all this fancy ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---, heh

[ChadTower]

I make my C4 bombs in the shape of a gun and paint it black.  That way, when they visually verify, I can keep the remote in my carry on. 

[JoyMonkey]

Ehhh... Why are you posting this?
It sounds like you're trying to inviting some nice homeland security gentlemen around for coffee or something. 

[fredster]

Try to get into Boston. You'd have armed guards escorting you.

Out west they know what's up.

Did you buy all those out there or were you just forming that milita you always wanted?

[RacerX]

Try to get into Boston. You'd have armed guards escorting you.

Out west they know what's up.

Did you buy all those out there or were you just forming that milita you always wanted?

That's probably because some of the 9/11 terrorist's flights originated in Boston.  I would run a tight ship if I were them, too.

[Paul Olson]

Nevada is good, but not all western states.  California doesn't seem to believe anyone should own a gun.  I wouldn't even try to check a gun if I was going to California.  They don't just ban assault weapons, they ban anything that looks like an assault weapon.

Just one of many reasons I moved from California to Nevada.

Paul

[Apollo]

Sorry for this but you guys in the U.S. crack me up. WTF do you need guns for unless you are going hunting or are a target shooter? It's totally ridiculous how you all think wandering round the country with hand guns and ammo is normal. And Sephroth I'd do some research on how many gun shot injuries and deaths are the caused by the homeowners handgun and how many victims are the homeowners family or friends.
You guys live in lala land you really do. And you wonder why people in other countries think everyone in the US is crazy.
I know you're not all crazy but really you guys don't do yourselves any favours, and don't start quoting the constitution at me either because that "right to maintain an armed militia" thing or whatever it says is so out of date it's just funny.
Now I guess I'm going to get flamed let's see how many Americans can put up a decent argument without getting nasty.

[Zakk]

Silly, those guns are for self-defense!  What happens if a bunny is "coming right at you!"

Stan: I don't want to shoot the bunny.
Uncle Jimbo: No nephew of mine is going to be a tree hugger.
Cartman: Yeah, hippie. Go back to Woodstock if you don't want to shoot anything.


Uncle Jimbo: So you see, we have to kill animals, or else they'll die.

[fredster]

It's totally ridiculous how you all think wandering round the country with hand guns and ammo is normal

In the US, we still have rights.

You guys live in lala land you really do.

And it's nice here. I like it. 

that "right to maintain an armed militia" thing or whatever it says is so out of date it's just funny.

  Sure it is man, sure it is. Whatever. I'll make a deal with you. You live there, and I'll live here and we'll have a good time where we are at.

We don't have to argue about it. I don't think we have to say a word about it. I don't care if you don't like it. It really is none of your business if you don't live here now is it?

[GGKoul]

Silly, those guns are for self-defense!

[Apollo]

Well it does affect other countries actually, it breeds a mentality that says if it's broken or it's not going my way then I'll get my gun and #*$! you up. So the US's "gun" culture has a direct affect on me as a citizen living outside the US. What other country would vote back in as president a guy who went to war with a country for no reason ( well other than they beat up his dad and they've got a lot of oil ). Take off the blinkers you're living in a fantasy land.
Guns kill people..........say it really slowly if ya can't get it the first time.

[Rocky]

I used to live in a very rural area

[fredster]

Apollo, I thought we had a deal.

You don't care about our guns, and I don't care what strange and bizare mating rituals you and your tribe do, but you don't have to watch US TV anymore.

Why is that any discussion always turns to the President? I don't know.

[Apollo]

You can't dish me I'm from New Zealand.
Any way I was just ranting, peace all.

[Bones]

Guns. I see a gun and I am seeing something I have seen maybe only 5 times in my life. I don't like them, I don't even like the look of them. 

I think anyone who carries a gun on the street should be jailed for a long time, a bloody long time.

Sorry guys, it's probably just to do with our different cultures but I see no need for it. I would hate the thought my children are playing in a park and people are carrying a weapon close by. I would hate to walk down the street and be conscious that people have them.

Rural people and sporting gun owners are different.

[Kremmit]

Apollo, guns don't kill people, any more than hammers drive nails.  Of course, hammers do make the job a lot easier, but do you really think crooks and killers can't do you in without a gun if they have to? 

Guns are  just tools, machines, devices.  I could drive a nail with the but of a gun, or I could kill a man with a hammer.  The tool is not to blame for the actions of it's user.  To make guns a scapegoat for the evil that men do is a fallacy.   The entirety of recorded human history up until the invention of gunpowder shows that people have had no trouble killing people with clubs, rocks, knives, arrows, poison, etc. 

I don't know the legal situation regarding guns in NZ- but your post makes me think they're illegal there.  A lot of people think they should be here, too.  The thing is, on an small (compared to the US, anyway) island, it's not totally impossible to round up all or almost all of the guns and take them out of circulation, and then keep new ones out.  Here, that's just not really an option.  There have always been guns here, since before the time of our revolution.  Hence, at any given time, there have been too many for the government to hope to find them all.  It's impractical to think that the owners will all agree to surrender them, either.  When you've got as many people as we do, you simply cannot get even close to unanimous support of ANYTHING.  And with the zillion miles of border we have, it's impractical to think we could keep new guns out.  I imagine that the criminal element in NZ has guns.  I imagine that if YOU wanted one bad enough, you could get your hands on one.  If that's true in NZ, it's even more true here.  So why try to fight the tide?  We CAN'T get rid of guns.  Once you accept that, you have to accept that making guns illegal will only ensure that criminals with guns go un-opposed, and law-abiding citizens are deprived of a fun and useful tool.  Plus, If we're ever need to fight the government (don't laugh folks, it's only been 230 years), we'll need 'em. 

Just so we're clear here, I don't carry a gun.  I'm not a nut who thinks we should overthrow the government. 

I'd also like to point out, that everybody in America doesn't wander about the country with a pistol in his belt.  Most Americans don't have a gun.  Most of the ones who do have one don't carry it.  TV and movies paint a very different picture from reality on the subject of guns, the same as they do on everything else.  Reading your and BrokenBones' posts makes me realize what harm our entertainment industry is doing our image in the world at large.  Look, there aren't guys doing Jackie Chan stunts in the streets wherever you go in China, and there aren't dudes with machine guns under their overcoat walking around here, either.  I have never in my life walked down the street and worried that maybe the guy behind me had a gun.  We're mostly just regular people here, same as everywhere else. 

[HaRuMaN]

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[menace]

I lived in chicago for a few years and most folks I worked with didn't have guns or feel the need for them--one guy collected hand guns (he had 2 small boys so it made me nervous) but he seemed ok with it.  I personally don't think everyone should be allowed to carry a gun as it makes it way too easy to just shoot someone who's in your way as opposed to finding another option.  But like you say they are way to prevalent to be banned outright as that would just be a waste of time.  i personally agree with chris rock's outlook--give everyone a gun but charge $5000 per bullet, that way if you want someone dead, you really have to think about it cause that sh$t gets expensive after awhile...

[DrewKaree]

Just a guess, since I haven't seen a reply from DD, but it sounds as if this were a vacation based around the use of the guns for recreation, or they were heading to a gun show out in Vegas. 

Us funny 'mercans

I've got you beat, DD.  I went through Reagan International last year, and since the X-ray machine was down (and presently being worked on at that very moment) and the replacement for it was "not working too good neither, so he's gonna fix that one when he's done", we were asked to take our bags over to the table where we had to open them and they would be checked.  A lift-up of two corners of stuff in our suitcase and short perusal of our carry-ons (none of those crack investigative measures would have unearthed a handgun if we were carrying one ) and we were on our way.

I mean, Reagan International doesn't even have that many flights going through it!  Shuffle a few more personnel on over, and they could have sped the process up to do a GOOD search!

[fredster]

The sales group of my company were real comedians. You know, they would start the practical joke war. Before 9/11, they made a cardboard cut-out of a handgun and wrapped it aluminum foil. They tucked into my friend

[DrewKaree]

I used to live in a very rural area  (2 traffic lights in the whole county).  Everyone owned guns... not just 1 or 2, but several rifles (for hunting), hand guns were also popular.  Also, no one locked their doors and crime was extremely low. We all knew how to use them and what they were for.


I carried a handgun with me all day today and I didn't shoot anyone 

Yah, but you're a minister, so you only have to hit them with a little brimstone or browbeat them to death about religion , so I know you would only use your gun for sporting purposes. 

Heck, I wouldn't even require you to license yours.....mebbe I'll become a minister mahsef!

[DrewKaree]

The sales group of my company were real comedians. You know, they would start the practical joke war. Before 9/11, they made a cardboard cut-out of a handgun and wrapped it aluminum foil. They tucked into my friend

[tmasman]

Guns kill people...

I know it's a bit cliche, but no they don't...
A gun is an inanimate object that can't do anything without the expressed use by a person.

I actually don't even own a gun right now, but I'd love to have a couple for target shooting, etc...

If guns didn't exist people would find some other means of threatening & killing people.  Why do people always try to point the blame to everything but today's screwed up society? It's not the internet, it's not the access to guns, it's not somebody elses fault!  It's your own dad-gum fault for not raising your children right & filling the world with selfish idiots who don't have a clue about how to be a useful member of society!!!

No...  ;)I didn't have any pent up rage concerning any of this...

[JackTucky]

" I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it"

[DrewKaree]

You can't handle the truth!  Are you....talkin' ta me?  We have half a pack of cigarettes, a full tank of gas, it's dark out, and we're wearing sunglasses.  Hit it!

We're doing "famous movie lines" for $400, right Alex?

[JackTucky]

USA = Provider of freedom.

Other countries = , living under it.

Art "USA! USA!"

 

[fredster]

If guns kill people, pencils make mistakes.

I agree with JackTucky, don't even bother to explain it to people from other countries.  There is no point in even trying. I don't care if other countries don't like it.

Have them complain to the UN. 

[Hoagie_one]

every Iraqi citizen is allowed to own one assault rifle.

Hows that for rights?

[DrewKaree]

Why naturally! 

How ridiculous would you feel at the wedding if you DIDN'T show up with it to fire off into the air in celebration?

The shame could follow you for years!

[Dartful Dodger]

Sorry guys, it's probably just to do with our different cultures but I see no need for it. I would hate the thought my children are playing in a park and people are carrying a weapon close by. I would hate to walk down the street and be conscious that people have them.

That's the point! You are not conscious that people have them so you walk down the street with your head in your a.. the sand.

[shmokes]

The "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is retarded.  Every time I hear or read that I vomit all over myself. 

Guns kill people.  The technicality you rely on to suggest otherwise is absurd. 

Now, the fact that guns kill people doesn't necessarily mean they should be outlawed.  Penicillin kills people.  But if your kid took his penicillin and found out the hard way that he had a severe allergy to it I don't think you would tell people that your son killed himself when asked how he died.

The necessity for, or virtue, or constitutionality of gun ownership doesn't hinge on whether or not guns kill people.  Y'all gun nuts have a lot of compelling arguments on your side.  It boggles my mind that you fall back on the totally lameass, "Guns don't kill people, people kill people," bit so often.  What are you suggesting?  Should we outlaw people? 

I vomited twice just writing this post.

[fredster]

The "guns don't kill people, people kill people" is retarded.  Every time I hear or read that I vomit all over myself. 

guns don't kill people, people kill people
guns don't kill people, people kill people
(get a mop Shmokes)
guns don't kill people, people kill people
guns don't kill people, people kill people
(get an IV Shmokes)
guns don't kill people, people kill people...

[Grasshopper]

every Iraqi citizen is allowed to own one assault rifle.

Hows that for rights?

Not the best example for advocates of gun ownership to use.

[SeaMonkey]

Sorry for this but you guys in the U.S. crack me up. WTF do you need guns for unless you are going hunting or are a target shooter? It's totally ridiculous how you all think wandering round the country with hand guns and ammo is normal. And Sephroth I'd do some research on how many gun shot injuries and deaths are the caused by the homeowners handgun and how many victims are the homeowners family or friends.
You guys live in lala land you really do. And you wonder why people in other countries think everyone in the US is crazy.
I know you're not all crazy but really you guys don't do yourselves any favours, and don't start quoting the constitution at me either because that "right to maintain an armed militia" thing or whatever it says is so out of date it's just funny.
Now I guess I'm going to get flamed let's see how many Americans can put up a decent argument without getting nasty.

I stopped a rape in progress with my gun, and my sister changed her mind about them for ever after.

911 records a lot of deaths.

You will notice that accadental shootings happen more often to the uneducated, than by members of the NRA.

Brits kill less people with hands and feet, per capita, than Americans, would that be because Brits HAVE less hands and feet...per capita...?
Culture is at the root of the violence issue in America.
It is never a jewish internet professional driving around looking to "gat" another jewish internet professional...for example.

The number of guns per citizens is exactly why Brits never have to come here, and rescue us from the Germans....and that was its intent all along.

[Bones]

Sorry guys, it's probably just to do with our different cultures but I see no need for it. I would hate the thought my children are playing in a park and people are carrying a weapon close by. I would hate to walk down the street and be conscious that people have them.

That's the point! You are not conscious that people have them so you walk down the street with your head in your a.. the sand.

[Sephroth57]

so should we get rid of knives, swords, chemicals, blunt heavy objects, while were at it?

[SeaMonkey]

so should we get rid of knives, swords, chemicals, blunt heavy objects, while were at it?

EXACTLY!

When our Constitution was written, our founding fathers had NO IDEA how far knife techknowledgy would advance.

Ginsu knives can cut through a cinder block, and still slice tomatoes paper thin. Do we really need that kind of cutting power as individuals?