Pantera Guitarist Dimebag Darell Shot and killed onstage

[DrewKaree]

 http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6683479/

HOLY CRAP!

NOW who is to blame?  Or is it just ironic and "the music made me do it"?

From what I've heard two band members were killed along with two others - others wounded.


I can only wonder what the heck made him do it. 

[Vicious]

That's some crazy stuff right there.  I'd never listened to Damageplan but used to listen to Pantera a lot in high school.  As soon as I saw the name Dimebag Darrell I was like, WTF?!?

Like you, I wonder what the hell made this guy do it.

[DYNAGOD]

What a huge loss..im not a huge pantera fan, but as a fellow guitarist, he was undeniable a fantastic musician..
some idiot in a hooded sweatshirt walked up onstage at last nites show and opened fire killing darell and several others..
THIS WORLD HAS OFFICIALLY GONE TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET
the stage is the last place you ever expect someone to come up and shoot you six times in the face..
5 dead.....

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20041209/ap_on_re_us/nightclub_shooting

[Hoagie_one]

absurd

[ChadTower]

CNN says 4 dead.

[Trenchbroom]

Sad.  Darrell could really play the guitar.  Pantera is one of the all time greats.

[rampy]

that is sad.  I wore out my vulgard display of power and driven cassettes back in the day.  Even saw them live once, really good performance.  I wonder if this is gonna jack up the price on those dean guitars.

Well I guess we can make the Pantera reunion 3 more bullets joke now.

rampy

[Magnet_Eye]

and what sucks is they killed the shooter, so how the hell are we ever going to know WHY he did it? Did he have some hatred towards the band? Was he in a rival band? did Darrel or someone screw his wife/girlfriend?

Anyway, a tragedy for sure.. I am in a band myself, and I hope nothing crazy ever happens when I am out there pouring my soul out... 

[JackTucky]

You think if you name your kid Dimebag, he'll live a nice long life, but this time, they were wrong.

Art

[simplygriff]

That f'n sucks.  Pantera was my first concert.  4th row.  Right in front of Dimebag.  I even caught and still have one of his picks.    Saw them again for my girlfriend, now wife's, first concert.  Pantera really had a place in our hearts as odd as that may sound.
-G

[Vicious]

When I checked out Drew's post about Damageplan members being shot, I had no idea that Dimebag Darrell would be one of them.  Although the circumstances suck, it's cool to see other Pantera fans posting here.  Hopefully this idiot left behind some kinda message about why he did it.

[DYNAGOD]

Nathan Gale, 25, of Marysville,

read a first hand account of that ---punks--- evil doings from someone in the stands..

http://discussions.elektra.com/wm-damageplan/messages/?msg=6249

[Stingray]

Heard about this on the radio this morning. That's just insane. I'd certainly like to know what the guy's motive was, assuming he had one and it wasn't just some psychotic who randomly chose that time & place to snap.

-S

[DYNAGOD]

read the post above you, it expalins his motives. 

[locash]

The damageplan message board seems to be down.

In any case, I am not sure why people are concerned with the killer's motives.  Are you expecting to find something that justifies the murder of 4 people?  What could possibly justify that?

[DYNAGOD]

a guy jumped up on stage yelling directly at  dimebag that he was responsible for breaking up pantera, and now how was "someone whos name i cant remeber" supposed to have money for heroin..

guess he then processed to shoot him right in the head..

im sure law enforcement asked for the site to be pulled down..
too many eye witnesses talking about with an active multiple murder investigation going on..

[Vicious]

a guy jumped up on stage yelling directly at  dimebag that he was responsible for breaking up pantera, and now how was "someone whos name i cant remeber" supposed to have money for heroin..

If he's talking about someone's heroin addiction, it was probably Philip Anselmo (lead singer for Pantera).  If that's the case then this guy sounds like a total f'n loser with no life (no pun intended).

[JCKnife]

I've never heard this musician but what a shame for him and the other dead (except the shooter). Too bad Ohio has such restrictive concealed-carry laws that don't allow citizens to carry in establishments that serve alcohol. Just one armed citizen could have saved lives.

[mr.Curmudgeon]

NOW who is to blame?

Well....we know it wasn't the gun, as only people kill people.

[JoyMonkey]

I think maybe the killer is an insane fan that blames Dimebag for the Pantera breakup.

[Stingray]

In any case, I am not sure why people are concerned with the killer's motives.  Are you expecting to find something that justifies the murder of 4 people?  What could possibly justify that?

Not trying to justify anything. Clearly there's no justification for something like this. Only wondering why he would have wanted to do it.

Too bad Ohio has such restrictive concealed-carry laws that don't allow citizens to carry in establishments that serve alcohol. Just one armed citizen could have saved lives.

Oh yes, I'm sure a shootout in a crowd would have caused much less death.

-S

[DYNAGOD]

a guy jumped up on stage yelling directly at  dimebag that he was responsible for breaking up pantera, and now how was "someone whos name i cant remeber" supposed to have money for heroin..

If he's talking about someone's heroin addiction, it was probably Philip Anselmo (lead singer for Pantera).  If that's the case then this guy sounds like a total f'n loser with no life (no pun intended).

i ebelive that was it..
i dont know if he was a friend of anselmo or just a psychotic  fan who had projected himself into their lives..

[DrewKaree]

They did have a shootout - and quickly.  There were armed folks in the crowd

The police shot and killed the guy.

As you say - think of how many more could have been shot and killed if they hadn't been there.

Actually, think of how many could have been saved if they had been closer and more aware of what was going on - I'm betting they thought it might have had something to do with the show - hence the delay and resulting deaths.

[DrewKaree]

<i>NOW who is to blame?</i>

Well....we know it wasn't the gun, as only people kill people.   

Although this story is tragic, I have to say that with a name like Dimebag, my guess is that drugs are somehow involved.

Try using these to surround your "i's", MrC

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Well, THAT'S the first logical thing I've ever seen you say, even though you mean it sarcastically.

I've YET to see in the story where the guy threw his gun on stage and it went off, killing several people.  Again, what you seem to miss, is the large 150+ lb wart of a human being who was hell-bent on extracting some sort of "justice". 

From all reports thus far, the guy felt he needed to make someone pay - specifically that dimebag dude - and WAS able to get close enough where even without a gun, he'd have been able to kill at least ONE person - for some reason you can't seem to get it into your head that the gun was just what he chose to use - and the PERSON killed PEOPLE. 


Hey, one thing I DON'T find your loony point addressing is how he would have been subdued - after all, he was subdued with - A GUN!  What should the cops have done?  Adopted a resolution that he drop the gun?   


Drugs were involved    Do ya THINK?  So I guess, like as in your silly jab at guns - we should now work to legalize more of them   

   


Hey, how's it going with your "get out the Kerry vote" campaign?

[Zakk]

Have you ever noticed that it seems like only real musicians get killed?

[Dartful Dodger]

Have you ever noticed that it seems like only real musicians get killed?

[Zakk]

Have you ever noticed that it seems like only real musicians get killed?

[Dartful Dodger]

Sorry, can't follow your logic on this, maybe re-read my post?

Rhodes was killed in a small plane accident
Vaughn was killed in a helicopter accident
Hendrix was killed by police who would were restraining him (which caused him to choke on his own vomit.

My uncle was killed by a heart attack; I didn't know he was real musician.

If you

[Zakk]

Was it the cheap shot at nsynch that upset you or what? 

[Dartful Dodger]

Was it the cheap shot at nsynch that upset you or what?

[Zakk]

Never heard of Randy Rhodes!?!!??!?!?!??!


Now what is this world coming to?   

That's it, I'm going into the den and playing my Ozzy records...er I mean CD's yes, CD's

heh   

[DYNAGOD]

Never heard of Randy Rhodes!?!!??!?!?!??!


Now what is this world coming to?   

That's it, I'm going into the den and playing my Ozzy records...er I mean CD's yes, CD's

heh   

now that a crime....not to know who randy rhodes is..sadly he died before he ever got to be a celebrity..

and saying that handguns are responsible for this...
 is like saying that its not the drunk driver who kills someone its the car..

[DYNAGOD]

...we need to merge threads......

 

saying that handguns are too blame in this is like saying that its not a drunk driver whos responsible for killing someone,its the car..
BAN CARS!!!

[Floyd10]

Yeah, it really sucks. Not just that its dimebag, I'll admit, I am not a huge fan. I like slayer better, but Its just horrific that this would happen. he was very talented, and from what I know, he didnt deserve it. I do want to know the motives. Sort of like when jammaster Jay was shot and killed. The only differences are the bands, and this was in a crowded area.


sucks

[SOAPboy]

Told my gf last night about it.. she asked if they were playing Fu**ing hostile.. >_<

Sad to see him go.. But tbh its not a shock..

[danny_galaga]

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[ray_slup]

I'll have to listen to the song CEMETERY GATES from Pantera's first album is a tribute. 

[DrewKaree]

Never heard of Randy Rhodes!?!!??!?!?!??!


Now what is this world coming to?   

That's it, I'm going into the den and playing my Ozzy records...er I mean CD's yes, CD's

heh   

I've heard that listening to Ozzy can make middle class mothers who don't take an interest in their children's lives blame Ozzy in an effort to deny any personal responsibility they may feel   

Dartful, Randy Rhodes was the guitarist Ozzy was most enamored of, and with whom he made some of his greatest songs.  Even though I don't get stoned anymore, I still like to listen to 'im once in a while....I think.  The short term memory is a bit.....Even though I don't get stoned anymore, I still like to list...

[danny_galaga]

They did have a shootout - and quickly.

[Stingray]

whether you're for or against gun laws, most people would agree that it's not a great idea to be having a whole buncha armed folks together drinking...

Which was the point I was trying to make. For the record, I'm not anti-gun. I own a couple myself. I just don't think it would have ended better had half a dozen civilians who had been drinking in that crowd pulled out guns and started shooting.

And good for the police officer who arrived and took this guy out. One less psychotic that the prison system won't have to feed for a few years before eventually sending him back out on the street.

-S