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Author Topic: I have a D9200 monitor and a 4350 Radeon Card.. Where to start?  (Read 5046 times)

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I'm upgrading my mame cab and I ordered in a 4350 Radeon card to try. Where is a good starting place to look for setting up 15/24/31.5 modes? (If the card works I'm keeping it, if not I guess I'll get a new arcade vga.)

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Re: I have a D9200 monitor and a 4350 Radeon Card.. Where to start?
« Reply #1 on: April 15, 2011, 08:02:38 am »
I'm upgrading my mame cab and I ordered in a 4350 Radeon card to try. Where is a good starting place to look for setting up 15/24/31.5 modes? (If the card works I'm keeping it, if not I guess I'll get a new arcade vga.)

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Should work great with Windows as long as it's not Windows 7, should work even better with my Linux live CD especially if you don't have XP64 and want 64 bit :-).  In Windows 7 you are pretty much stuck with using an ArcadeVGA3000 card there, but there's other options which are cheaper too (plus more flexible, Linux can spot on the vsync and modelines per game perfectly, at least as close as the monitor can handle).  At least with the Live CD you can boot it and try it without much trouble or installing anything, and trying out the windows builds and custom radeon drivers at http://mame.groovy.org I and Calamity have worked on might be of interest to play with and compare to see which you like better.

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Re: I have a D9200 monitor and a 4350 Radeon Card.. Where to start?
« Reply #2 on: April 15, 2011, 07:50:42 pm »
What I was looking for is instructions / hints / a walkthru for setup.

I'll be running XP 32bit.

I remember when I setup my current arcadevga setup, I used a utility to setup the correct res for each game automatically. I seem to remember that the 15k modes are addressed as 1 scanline extra. (320x201?) Does soft 15k need anything like this?

I'm starting from scratch, I might keep mamewah, unless something much nicer is around now.

I've got a full set for 1.41u3, but I'm trying to get the 1.42 update.

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Re: I have a D9200 monitor and a 4350 Radeon Card.. Where to start?
« Reply #3 on: April 15, 2011, 08:15:07 pm »
If you're running a cab, do yourself a favor and at least try the groovymame linux live cd.  I had XP64, soft 15KHZ, and a ATI4350 and had decent success, but it really, really, really doesn't compare to the live cd.  With XP, you can dial in the resolutions, but the refresh rates can cause tears, jittering, etc.  The XP version of groovymame is very nice (better than soft15KHZ if you have Calamity's drivers), but the linux distro is way better.  With the live cd, the resolutions are spot on and the refresh rates are spot on...especially since you have a D9200.  So you absolutely get the best of both worlds.

I've got the groovymame linux setup as a hd install and could not be happier.  After a couple of evenings, I pulled out the XP hard drive and it's being used elsewhere.  I had Hyperspin as a frontend on my XP setup....but I don't miss it anymore as I customized the wahcade layout to my liking.

Groovymame linux live cd: Try it....you'll like it!   :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:


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Re: I have a D9200 monitor and a 4350 Radeon Card.. Where to start?
« Reply #4 on: April 15, 2011, 10:57:24 pm »
Thanks I'll give it a try.


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Re: I have a D9200 monitor and a 4350 Radeon Card.. Where to start?
« Reply #5 on: April 20, 2011, 08:10:26 pm »
Ok, groovymame linux and me do not agree, and I still want to keep my old windows games (hotd, hamster ball, etc.).

Is there a current list of compatible cards with soft 15k?
(I tried the ati drivers from the groovymame site with my radeon 4350, and my particular card is not supported.)

The list over on the german forums is ancient.

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Re: I have a D9200 monitor and a 4350 Radeon Card.. Where to start?
« Reply #6 on: April 21, 2011, 08:19:55 am »
Ok, groovymame linux and me do not agree, and I still want to keep my old windows games (hotd, hamster ball, etc.).

Is there a current list of compatible cards with soft 15k?
(I tried the ati drivers from the groovymame site with my radeon 4350, and my particular card is not supported.)

The list over on the german forums is ancient.

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Yes, your radeon 4350 is supported (it was my test card actually), try version based on Catalyst 9.3.
Important note: posts reporting GM issues without a log will be IGNORED.
Steps to create a log:
 - From command line, run: groovymame.exe -v romname >romname.txt
 - Attach resulting romname.txt file to your post, instead of pasting it.

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Re: I have a D9200 monitor and a 4350 Radeon Card.. Where to start?
« Reply #7 on: April 24, 2011, 03:01:20 pm »
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(I tried the ati drivers from the groovymame site with my radeon 4350, and my particular card is not supported

Ok apparently my card is not supported by anything, including the drivers from the maker or ati.

MSI R4350-MD512H/D3

It comes up as a VEN_1002&DEV_68E1, which crosses to a mobility part???

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"ATI Mobility Radeon HD 5000 Series   " = ati2mtag_Manhattan, PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_68E1

Just looked up the reviews over at newegg and it's labeled as a 4350, but is not. This is a card to avoid.

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Re: I have a D9200 monitor and a 4350 Radeon Card.. Where to start?
« Reply #8 on: April 26, 2011, 04:42:04 pm »
Just got in a MSI R4350-MD512H

50 cents difference, but this actually has a 4350. Drivers installed fine.
Now to figure out how to use them.


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Hi, sorry for the necro post, but you may use the "Calamity Drivers guide" here  but I recommend using this aproach which I think is better

1) Uninstall the graphics driver you're using (I asssume you are using Windows 10. I have not tested this with Windows 7). You can do it by presing delete on the "Device Manager" in the place where the graphics card is shown
2) Then install de Calamity Drivers. According to the guide you must install this drivers for a Radeon HD 4350: Calamity Drivers for Radeon HD 4000+ cards

3)After that create a text file with these lines and save it (let's say, test-modelines.txt):

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Modeline "192x240@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (58Hz)" 5.852 192 256 285 372 240 248 251 271 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "192x256@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (59Hz)" 6.500 192 278 310 408 256 256 259 284 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "208x256@56,0Hz 15,9KHz (56Hz)" 6.500 208 278 310 408 256 256 259 284 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "224x256@56,0Hz 15,9KHz (56Hz)" 6.500 224 276 308 408 256 256 259 284 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "240x192@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 5.030 240 261 285 320 192 213 216 262 -hsync -vsync   
Modeline "240x224@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 5.030 240 261 285 320 224 236 239 262 -hsync -vsync   
Modeline "240x240@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (58Hz)" 5.030 240 256 280 320 240 247 250 271 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "240x248@56,7Hz 15,7KHz (57Hz)" 5.029 240 261 285 320 248 248 251 277 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "248x256@57,0Hz 15,9KHz (57Hz)" 7.236 248 328 360 460 256 259 262 286 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "256x192@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 5.408 256 278 303 344 192 236 239 262 -hsync -vsync   
Modeline "256x208@61,0Hz 15,7KHz (61Hz)" 5.417 256 278 303 344 208 213 216 258 -hsync -vsync   
Modeline "256x224@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 5.408 256 278 303 344 224 236 239 262 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "256x240@57,4Hz 15,7KHz (57Hz)" 5.410 256 275 300 344 240 243 246 274 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "256x248@58,0Hz 15,7KHz (58Hz)" 5.407 256 279 304 344 248 248 251 271 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "256x256@55,0Hz 15,7KHz (55Hz)" 5.411 256 278 303 344 256 260 263 286 -hsync -vsync   
Modeline "272x224@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 5.911 272 298 326 376 224 236 239 262 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "280x240@57,4Hz 15,7KHz (57Hz)" 5.911 280 304 332 376 240 250 253 274 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "288x224@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 6.036 288 313 341 384 224 236 239 262 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "304x224@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 6.414 304 330 360 408 224 236 239 262 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "320x224@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 6.791 320 348 380 432 224 236 239 262 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "320x240@57,4Hz 15,7KHz (57Hz)" 6.792 320 350 382 432 240 247 250 272 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "336x240@58,0Hz 15,8KHz (58Hz)" 7.068 336 360 398 448 240 247 250 272 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "352x240@61,3Hz 15,8KHz (61Hz)" 7.536 352 380 418 474 240 240 243 269 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "384x224@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 8.049 384 417 455 512 224 236 239 262 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "384x240@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (58Hz)" 8.049 384 417 455 512 240 247 250 271 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "384x256@55,0Hz 15,7KHz (55Hz)" 8.054 384 417 455 512 256 259 262 286 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "400x254@54,7Hz 15,7KHz (55Hz)" 8.416 400 432 472 536 254 262 265 287 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "400x256@57,0Hz 15,7KHz (57Hz)" 8.306 400 425 475 528 256 259 262 285 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "512x192@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 10.690 512 564 596 680 192 217 225 271 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "512x224@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 10.690 512 564 596 680 224 239 247 271 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "512x240@60,0Hz 15,7kHz (60Hz)" 10.690 512 564 596 680 240 246 254 271 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "768x224@58,0Hz 15,7KHz (58Hz)" 16.102 768 844 892 1024 224 244 250 271 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "640x480@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 13.876 640 706 769 876 480 482 488 528 -hsync -vsync interlace
Modeline "672x504@57,0Hz 15,7KHz (57Hz)" 14.630 672 746 806 930 504 516 522 572 -hsync -vsync interlace
Modeline "720x480@60,0Hz 15,7KHz (60Hz)" 14.366 720 778 821 913 480 482 488 528  -hsync -vsync interlace
Modeline "1280x1024@60,0Hz (60Hz)" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "1366x768@60,0Hz (60Hz)" 88.0 1384 1424 1704 1816 770 770 782 808 -hsync -vsync
Modeline "1920x1080@60,0Hz (60Hz)" 138.500 1920 1968 2000 2080 1080 1083 1088 1111 -hsync -vsync


4) Then in VMMaker click on the "Edit Settings" (upper left corner) and then the "Video Card" tab. Push the "Import modes from file..."(second button at the right side) button and choose the file you just created and the push OK (lower right)

5) Then Push "Install Modes" in the upper part of the main window. It will ask me if you're sure, so we answer "yes".

6) Then the screen could flicker and maybe show a black screen for some seconds.

7) After that the modes should be installed. You may use the Arcade OSD utility to test the modes. Use the VGA port or if your card has a DVI-I connector (Use a DVI-I to VGA adapter, the one that has the cross at the right connector with the 5 pins = C1, C2, C3, C4 and C5)

8) Then connect it to whatever monitor or TV you want (to a SCART connector if it's an european TV, or a RGBS connector in case of a Arcade Video Chassis/Monitor).

9) In the case you want it to connect to a TV that has Component Input (YPbPr input) I recommend this trascoder which you can connect the graphics card directly to the VGA connector of the transcoder and then the Y, Pb and Pr to the connectors in the TV (usually they are located at the back of the TV). The transcoder I talk about is this

Please reply if you have any questions. The resolutions I put in the textfile should cover at least 90% of the games that mame runs. If you need a game that has a resolution which isn't listed there I cand make one so you include it in that text file

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