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Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« on: November 10, 2015, 02:07:39 am »
   Hi guys!! Im new to the forum here and new to building computers.

I would like to design and build my own cocktail cabinet arcade game. Ill be coming up with my own cabinet, im gonna say 3 1/2 to four foot long. My idea is to replace my coffee table with it. So i would like to add a drawer and would also like to make it juke box. Or at least make it able to upgrade to a juje box.

I can pretty much source everything but the brains. I looked at the "Read this First" and i would just like a level C platform so it will play some NES games like super mario, zelda, and such along with the classics like Pac-man.

Ive been looking for what the guide says but i am comming up short. Would yall mind helping locate an affordable brains system? Please?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2015, 05:17:57 am »
By brains do you mean computer? Also not familiar with the term level C platform in this context, can you elaborate?

If you just away to play simple games (old consoles, some classics in Mame) then maybe a Raspberry Pi solution would suit, very small so easy to integrate into a build.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2015, 03:33:11 pm »
By brains do you mean computer? Also not familiar with the term level C platform in this context, can you elaborate?

If you just away to play simple games (old consoles, some classics in Mame) then maybe a Raspberry Pi solution would suit, very small so easy to integrate into a build.

Pretty sure the FOUR FOOT LONG table he is building will have plenty of room for a traditional PC.

To the original poster. Almost any PC you can find anywhere (including the garbage) would be suitable. Everything you want to do was possible on the hardware of 20 years ago.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2015, 05:30:45 pm »
Pretty sure the FOUR FOOT LONG table he is building will have plenty of room for a traditional PC.

Aw, c'mon now. Guys are build 4 foot wide cabs now. 4 foot wide cocktails are just a natural progression.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2015, 07:59:22 pm »
Yea i dont have much room and a 4 foot long (not wide) 2 player machine will fit perfectly. And and only as tall as coffee table so you have to sit on the floor to play.

On a the radpberry pi, can it play up to 32-bit games? Like street fighter? Does is still need a hard drive and video card?

I meant option C on this thread

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=14155
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2015, 10:39:35 pm »
Yea i dont have much room and a 4 foot long (not wide) 2 player machine will fit perfectly. And and only as tall as coffee table so you have to sit on the floor to play.

On a the radpberry pi, can it play up to 32-bit games? Like street fighter? Does is still need a hard drive and video card?

I meant option C on this thread

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=14155

You don't want a raspberry pi. There is literally not a worse choice you can make. Anyone who suggests you use that is either trolling you, has no idea what they are talking about or are trying to justify the fact that they ruined a project with one by pretending it isn't terrible.

Also, making it super short and sitting on the floor to play doesn't work. The viewing angle won't be right. Also if space is actually an issue than you should be building a cabaret cabinet and not a cocktail.

Finally, most people vastly overestimate how much space an arcade game takes up. A normal arcade game has about the same footprint as those end tables next to your couch.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2015, 10:44:49 pm »
Finally, most people vastly overestimate how much space an arcade game takes up. A normal arcade game has about the same footprint as those end tables next to your couch.

Yep. Agreed.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2015, 01:15:28 am »
I guess what i mean is an elaborate coffee table. I definitely have the room for what i want to build.

Thanks for the tip on the raspberry pi. So now im just looking for a cheap used tower.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2015, 03:21:03 am »
Ok i plan on using a 20 inch flatscreen pc monitor. The cabinet only has to be a couple inches wider than the screen on the long sides. It wont be 4ft long but maybe about 3 to 3 1/2 feet long. And you were right about playing it on the floor but at the height of my curent table you could sit on the couch and play and still see the screen area.

What do you think?


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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #9 on: November 12, 2015, 11:05:33 am »
I think you should attach the monitor to a board with a hinge so you can flip up the screen and play console games from the couch.  Also,  be sure you get a monitor that allows you to see the picture from various angles.


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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #10 on: November 12, 2015, 11:43:45 am »
You don't want a raspberry pi. There is literally not a worse choice you can make. Anyone who suggests you use that is either trolling you, has no idea what they are talking about or are trying to justify the fact that they ruined a project with one by pretending it isn't terrible.
Well none of those point apply to myself, I've seen a few Pi setups and they run the older stuff quite well to be honest. I suggested it with the consideration that the OP may be wanting to build a traditional looking table (not cocktail cabinet or arcade machine). A flatscreen and Pi combo could easily be fitted into a standard looking coffee table, 4 corner legs and a 4in deep tabletop.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2015, 12:38:11 pm »
the OP may be wanting to build a traditional looking table (not cocktail cabinet or arcade machine).

That's what I'm reading.  This simply isn't a cocktail cabinet and if there is the amount of space it sounds like, I think the computer advice should parallel a pedestal.  A PC opens the door to everything, including using the music software he already has set-up. With a windows PC he can add whatever, newer games, a big cheap internal HD, steam, ect.  If he really wants linux when it's all said and done, he can still do it with a windows PC, only it's faster.  If there isn't a space restriction, what can the Pi do that a PC can't do better?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2015, 02:16:39 pm »
Regardless of how cheap it is, I believe the Pi is something that should only be considered in a build if space is a premium. (ie, NES, gamegear, coleco tabletop, micro arcade, etc)

Otherwise, I think it should be avoided because the cost of small, fan-less Windows-based machines are getting very competitive.

If space is not a concern, I can't think of any reason I'd choose a Pi over a Windows computer.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2015, 03:12:12 pm »
I wouldn't put a Pi in it either.

This dude has some cheapy computers for sale if your looking: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,133968.0.html

Or you could always hunt up an HP Slimline or similar pretty cheap on eBay.

If your trying to minimize space, buy a mini ITX board and small form factor power supply. Pair it up with a low wattage CPU. It's MAME, no need for an 8 core 125 watt CPU.

For graphics a GT 730 makes an excellent choice in price, performance, and dead silence since it uses no fan. Or, if you don't want a card sticking out, any of the AMD AM1 series boards with integrated graphics works well. Cheap too.

So many ways to go here... not really a matter of what to get, but rather how much do you want to spend?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #14 on: November 12, 2015, 03:23:48 pm »
I'm no stranger to arduino but from what I can see of the Pi there would still be extra I would have to buy to run it. If I buy a used widows PC though I get almost everything need at once for the same price as the Pi.

Let's go ahead drop what I said about how much space I have.

I would like to have the whole top as one sheet of tempered glass or acrylic with a lid to go o even that so I can still use it as my table without hurting the cabinet. Being able to tilt the screen is a good move but I still have a tv and game consoles.

This is ,ore like a "have nothing better to do with my time kinda project". Something to do for fun. And you would be surprised at how much I can stuff into a small space. Thank you 90's pc game 3D Tetris.

I would also like to add a coule 6x9's and a 10inch woofer for jukebox mode and stereo sound for gaming. Is there a way to do that with a PC Card or will I need to buy an amp and stuff?




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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #15 on: November 12, 2015, 03:35:18 pm »
You'd need an amp to drive a 10" sub but I'd also be concerned about having a speaker of that size so close to all the other components if it ends up being a tight fit.

Having a glass top was one of the main criteria of my table arcade build:- http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,148135.0.html

So far I've had no issues with viewing angles, but the panel I used whilst old was pretty good.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #16 on: November 12, 2015, 03:36:06 pm »
Thanks for the link but that's still a lil pricey for old technology. If I eBay it I can get the tower the graphics card and a sound card for under $75.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #17 on: November 12, 2015, 03:38:25 pm »
I would like to have the whole top as one sheet of tempered glass or acrylic
Do not use acrylic. You will thank me us later.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #18 on: November 12, 2015, 03:43:38 pm »
Yea tempered glass is my first choice. I've used acrylic before on a lizard cage and it sucked!!!!

Aluminum is pretty cheap and makes a perfect shield to ban magnetic waves.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #19 on: November 12, 2015, 06:28:47 pm »
None of that changes the fact that it is still the worst possible choice you can make. I mean, theoretically you could revive that old "Mame on a digital camera" trick from 15 years ago, that would probably be worse.

Suggesting the pi as a go to mame solution is like answering "1997 Hyundai" to someone who asks "What car should I buy".

You don't want a raspberry pi. There is literally not a worse choice you can make. Anyone who suggests you use that is either trolling you, has no idea what they are talking about or are trying to justify the fact that they ruined a project with one by pretending it isn't terrible.
Well none of those point apply to myself, I've seen a few Pi setups and they run the older stuff quite well to be honest. I suggested it with the consideration that the OP may be wanting to build a traditional looking table (not cocktail cabinet or arcade machine). A flatscreen and Pi combo could easily be fitted into a standard looking coffee table, 4 corner legs and a 4in deep tabletop.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #20 on: November 12, 2015, 08:20:21 pm »
Suggesting the pi as a go to mame solution is like answering "1997 Hyundai" to someone who asks "What car should I buy".

I think Shriners car might be a better answer.  For folks that need to go through a tiny tunnel to get to the store, it might be the best option.  But you can only carry so much stuff since it's a little underpowered.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #21 on: November 12, 2015, 09:20:18 pm »
Talk to me about monitors and orientation. The cabinet I'm building will be a 2 player machine made like a regular cocktail cabinet. can wide screen monitors he used? Is there a way to set up orientation so it plays like a classic 2 player cocktail table? How does all that work?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #22 on: November 12, 2015, 10:35:54 pm »
What is a "regular cocktail cabinet" to you?  To me it's ms pacman, but I don't think the players can face each other from 4 feet away and still see the game properly.  Are you thinking Asteroids? Maybe q-bert?

Cocktail games can be flipped in MAME just like they do at a restaurant.

Why would you want a 16 x 9 monitor for something that is going to get 4:3 usage?


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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #23 on: November 12, 2015, 11:04:23 pm »
Yes like a ms paceman cabinet.

I'm down to 3foot and a 20 inch screen

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #24 on: November 12, 2015, 11:12:18 pm »
Stick with a 20-21" 4:3 monitor.
Try and go with an IPS display if you can.

I'm currently building a slim cocktail with this setup and it's only going to be 26" long

heres the build thread http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=146042.40
I'm currently working on re-designing the shape though.

There's some info in this thread that you may find helpful when choosing a monitor.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #25 on: November 13, 2015, 09:41:33 pm »
Heres what im going after except the conyrolls being completely under the glass and not so high


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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #26 on: November 13, 2015, 10:23:58 pm »
That one is missing the glass entirely.

Heres what im going after except the conyrolls being completely under the glass and not so high


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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #27 on: November 21, 2015, 04:11:45 pm »
No the one pictured has no glass but mine will. I was just showing a reference pic of the type of machine i would like to build.


Ive got an X-box 360 thats collecting dust and maybe has 100 hours total on it. Can it be used instead if buying a computer? Can i still use a monitor or do i need a regular flat screen.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #28 on: November 22, 2015, 04:46:06 pm »
The xbox 360 idea is crap. But i did run up on a few 60-in-1 boards  so i might go that way, though i would like to play some 32bit games like streetfighter2.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #29 on: November 22, 2015, 07:43:50 pm »
I would think the 360 would be a better route than the 60-in-1

Either that or a cheap used PC.

There's a guy on this forum selling them $150 or so

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #30 on: November 23, 2015, 04:26:28 pm »
I found a computer i like, but im
Not sure about the graphics card.

Can an intel graphics media accelerator 4500 do 32-bit games like street fighter?

Do i NEED a network card or can i burn the MAME programs onto a disc?
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #31 on: November 23, 2015, 07:25:05 pm »
Ok would a dell 745 and an ati radeon HD 4550 512 pcie video card?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #32 on: November 25, 2015, 12:17:29 am »
can any body tell me whether a Radeon ATI HD3450 256mb video card can handle 64-bit games?

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« Reply #33 on: November 25, 2015, 01:12:12 pm »
Mame doesn't really even use your video card.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #34 on: November 26, 2015, 12:27:06 am »
Tell me aspect ratio. Im having a hard time finding a 20 to 22 screen thats 4:3.and finding a square one is next to impossible. Arent most TV's and monitors adjustable?
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #35 on: November 27, 2015, 03:26:49 am »
Or dont.

   Ok whats the best way to add speakers? Im planning on using something like a couple of regular 4x10's or a pair of 6x9's. Not gonna do the 10" just yet.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #36 on: November 27, 2015, 11:29:35 am »
This calculator can you figure out what kind of 4:3 image you can get on different sized 16:9 displays
http://tvcalculator.com/

There are many ways you can go with the audio.
check out parts express for speakers and amps http://www.parts-express.com/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=G+-+Brand+-+Main&utm_group=G-Brand-Main-Exact

You can use a small amp like this http://www.parts-express.com/dayton-audio-dta-1-class-t-ac-dc-battery-powered-mini-amplifier-15-wpc--300-380

Just remember when going component wise with an amp and speakers, match the loads, for example don't use 4 ohm speakers on an amp that only handles 8 ohm loads

you can also simply mount in some logitech speakers. there are many models with remote volume pods that can be mounted in the coin door or something for easy accessibility.
http://www.amazon.com/Cyber-Acoustics-Subwoofer-Frustration-CA-3602FFP/dp/B00BXF5HQ8/ref=lp_172471_1_6?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1448641295&sr=1-6

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #37 on: November 27, 2015, 10:38:11 pm »
Tell me aspect ratio. Im having a hard time finding a 20 to 22 screen thats 4:3.and finding a square one is next to impossible. Arent most TV's and monitors adjustable?

Go on craigslist and buy a 21" crt monitor, it will be 4:3 and will be cheap and will be much better for mame than any CRT (and has essentially the same image size as a 27" widescreen).
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« Reply #38 on: November 27, 2015, 11:59:48 pm »
   Ok thank you

   I still need advice for the controls. Ive found two different sets of jamma controls, One that uses the USB and another that looks like it connects to a video card? What would be the best option for me?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #39 on: November 28, 2015, 12:16:01 am »
You're gonna have to clarify what you're talking about with the controls.
Go to the video card??? Are you talking about an old game port setup?

Post some pics

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« Reply #40 on: November 28, 2015, 02:08:05 am »
Easier to post the links and let you see the whole product.

This is the usb version

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=221281135290

This is the link to the other.

http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&alt=web&id=251336973880

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« Reply #41 on: November 28, 2015, 09:43:14 am »
That first one is all the controls and cabling as well as a usb encoder
      out of the two, you would want this one

the second one is for an actual arcade board. it's the controls with a jamma harness
      unless you're planning to have a jamma board like the 60-in-1, you don't want this

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #42 on: November 28, 2015, 09:48:24 am »
just my 2 cents on these controls:

be careful of these generic control package deals on ebay, they are mostly no-name cheap controls.
you may save a few dollars only to be disappointed in how they work.
they may have very loud clicky microswitches.

my personal opinion is that a ball top joystick with a somewhat low profile looks best on a cocktail cab

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #43 on: November 30, 2015, 07:54:25 pm »
Got any links you can share to some places that carry the right controls?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #44 on: November 30, 2015, 09:18:45 pm »
You can totally go with pc speakers. its the easiest way.
they have the amp built in.
I would go for a set of logitech 2.1 with a separate volume pod. just keep that pod accessible in your coin door for changing volume.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #45 on: December 04, 2015, 04:28:02 pm »
In this pic......



  ...if you will look closely at the screen you can see that its set up for street fighter 2 with the screen split so each person can see. I really just want a two player cab, can i split the screen like so or have they done some tweaking to the code that makes up the game?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #46 on: December 04, 2015, 06:25:43 pm »
...if you will look closely at the screen you can see that its set up for street fighter 2 with the screen split so each person can see. I really just want a two player cab, can i split the screen like so or have they done some tweaking to the code that makes up the game?
To do a split screen like the pic shows for most MAME games:

  1. Launch game.

  2. Press Tab. (menu)

  3. Select "Dip Switches" menu.

  4. Set Upright/Cocktail switch to Cocktail (if available) -- this is enough for many alternating-player games like Berzerk.

  5. Start a 2-player game.  If game doesn't display properly (i.e. flip for P2 like Berzerk does), go to the "Video Options" menu and select "Cocktail".

  6. Some games like Asteroids don't handle Cocktail mode properly.


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« Reply #47 on: December 04, 2015, 08:10:59 pm »
Awesome thank you.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #48 on: January 02, 2016, 08:01:57 pm »
Built the cab today. Its not perfect but it should play well. I used 1/2 inch russian birch instead of the 3/4. It looks good and had a lil burl to it. We based all the measurements around the flat screen so it could be seen. comfortably. And built it tough enough for heirloom quality.






The flatscreen fits in a cradle then the top is put over it and alligned with some spacer scrap pieces so theres no wiggle. Also thought it would be eadier to get to the controls if the control box didnt have a bottom. Now they are easy to get to and the wires are fed through a 1 and 1/8 hole.

What would be the easiest way to mount the glass semi-permanent to permanently to the top? I plan on using 3/8 thick with a bevel.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #49 on: January 04, 2016, 02:57:50 am »
  Spent the day installing the buttons. The wires were way too short for a cocktail cabinet so i had to do some lengthening for the player 2 controls. Had to cut a corner off the sticks, the 1 and 2 player buttons were in the way.

So heres my set up.

Samsung 24 inch LED TV

Dell Optiplex 745 intel core 2 duo 2.6GHz 2GB RAM and 250GB HD

ATI Radeon HD 3450 XT 256MB PCIe graphics card

Go grove Sonaverse PC speakers with subwoofer

Generic S-video to HDMI converter

2 player Xin Mo mame arcade controls

I still need glass and could use a couple tips on attaching it to the table.

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« Reply #50 on: January 04, 2016, 03:09:07 am »
Is there an easy way to re-route the computers on off switch or make it come on automatically when power is applied. Like when i turn the surge protector on.

The easiest way would be to use a smart power strip. You plug the computer into the master slot, everything else into the slave slots. Now if you turn the computer on, everything in the slave slots will get power, too.
                  

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #51 on: January 04, 2016, 03:35:05 pm »
Dell Optiplex 745 intel core 2 duo 2.6GHz 2GB RAM and 250GB HD

Is there an easy way to re-route the computers on off switch or make it come on automatically when power is applied. Like when i turn the surge protector on.

I'm pretty sure there is an option in the bios to boot when power is connected on the Optiplex 745.

I don't like messing with the power switch on those, but people do it.



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« Reply #52 on: January 04, 2016, 05:31:15 pm »
Yep i did a lil more research and found out how to change that.

   Ive been using mameui 32 and its was working fine. Now today after setting everything it says its missing files.
I can use the original Mame interface non-command prompt. How do i set the buttons in the configure mode? Is there a list that i can use to tell me what to type for each button?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #53 on: January 04, 2016, 11:37:45 pm »
Well ive been sitting here playing with the controls after figuring it out. After some trouble I can play games now. For some reason in the controls menu i can put it on the menu caption for P1 right and hit the joystick right a hundred times but it would just put N/A or none. But eventually if i keep messing with it, it will show the correct direction.

   Also i just picked the glass off of top of my cab and everything is so hot!!! Especially the TV. Do i need to install some kind of exhaust fan or make some holes. Im afraid im gonna burn it up.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #54 on: January 04, 2016, 11:53:20 pm »
Heat rises, so cocktails inherently suffer from this problem. And the glass just traps it all in right on the TV.

Most TVs have vent slots near the top edge for a reason.

If you don't have any exhaust, I'd think about putting some cold air intake vents near the bottom of the cab and some hot air exhaust fans near the top.

Not aesthetically pleasing but necessary for long gaming sessions. The bigger the fan, the slower it can spin so the quieter it will be. I hate hearing fan noise. Especially on an arcade machine.
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« Reply #55 on: January 04, 2016, 11:59:28 pm »
What would you reccomend for fans?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #56 on: January 05, 2016, 12:36:31 am »
Ok found a couple 80mm fans that i can install with some mesh speaker covers over them. Do i need to buy a seperate power supply or can i hook them up to my pre-existing set up?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #57 on: January 05, 2016, 04:31:54 am »
Took a while but I managed to find a dual 80mm fan set with outer frame that looks nice and its powered by a USB. Is 52cfm enough airflow?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #58 on: January 05, 2016, 11:34:59 am »
I used the Coolerguys Dual 80mm USB Cooling Fans in my Mini DK build. Only moves 20 CFM but that's all I need. You don't need to suck all the air out of the cabinet, you just need to keep it moving a little. However, these fans got a little loud so I ended up hooking them up to a Coolerguys Manual Speed Controller The speed controller could be used in conjunction with any USB fan. If it's too loud, turn it down. If it's getting hot, turn it up.


Here is another option with the speed controller built in. I have not used it but a decent option. It's a little loud, however, at 24dBA.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #59 on: January 05, 2016, 04:11:54 pm »
It got really hot!!!! So i want as much exhaust as i can get. They are about 23dba so thats not bad. Server coolers are much louder and that never bothered me much.

   Coin mech became necessary though. Dont want to Have to remove the lid and glass to get to the power button and keyboard and mouse.

Is there a way to configure mame to be able to change games and or exit a game using only the arcade controls?

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« Reply #60 on: January 05, 2016, 05:32:04 pm »
Is there a way to configure mame to be able to change games and or exit a game using only the arcade controls?

You need to get yourself a "front end" to switch between games. I'm a hyperspin guy but that FE has a steep learning curve. I've heard that Mala is easy.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #61 on: January 05, 2016, 06:50:05 pm »
When are you going to put a bezel over your monitor so it looks more square on the sides? I noticed you have a bow on the side to match the Monitor or did you do that on purpose?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #62 on: January 05, 2016, 09:12:49 pm »
   I actually did that on purpose to make it easier to move and remove the top. Gives me a lil rom to wiggle.

  I scratched some finish last night moving the glass and had to repair it today. With the heating problem, if i put bumpers under the glass that will allow some extra airflow to cool my LED screen once my fans come

Will mala work with mamegui?
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #63 on: January 05, 2016, 11:31:45 pm »
Ok I'm gonna try this of its against the rules I will remove.

  Can I ask where to find the mala controls.ini? I've tried several different sites including MALA and the links are dead.




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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #64 on: January 05, 2016, 11:45:58 pm »
The support files aren't copyrighted, so nothing to be worried about in the Rule 5 department.   ;D

The "controls" link at MAMEWorld is broken, but the other links to support files are on the right, about 1/2 way down the page.

Controls.ini can be found here -- it's older, but apparently not enough has changed since 0.141 to merit an update.   :dunno


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« Reply #65 on: January 06, 2016, 12:09:45 am »
Awesome thank you

  Ok now after naming the mame.exe path then the rom path and hit ok I get this message

No games were added! Review collection options and ensure using XML file (produced by mame) is > .84

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« Reply #66 on: January 06, 2016, 12:49:09 am »
Starting to figure the program out. Had to use mameui32 which is fine since that was the program I was using. Then had to figure out how to get it to only show my games. But it's only showing 75 of 100.

Any body know how to add a juke box function? Can I use MP3?



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« Reply #67 on: January 06, 2016, 01:27:23 am »
Having trouble with the controls. I can get the joysticks to work but nothing else.

I can use my wireless mouse to enter games using mameui32. Just have no way to escape the game.

   I was also successful in changing the bios to boot the computer upon receiving power so yay.
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« Reply #68 on: January 06, 2016, 03:03:56 am »
      Any one know to make either mala or mame exit a game with out th keyboard? I've been playing around and still get stuck on a game.

   Did figure out how to program the arcade controls just not an exit button.

Never mind figured it out.
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« Reply #69 on: January 07, 2016, 04:44:49 am »
Ok how do i get mala to play jukebox while playing a game?

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« Reply #70 on: January 07, 2016, 07:35:29 pm »
Figured out the juke box but i fid something earlier today thst caused mala to freeze where it wouldnt even let me access the configuration menu so im having to start from scratch.

On layouts....

  I would like to use the tron layout (i know im a nerd). But i cant figure out how to install it. I added the iml file to mala and put the font in the font directory but i cant figure out where to put the png file. I put it in standards no luck just a black screen with my games list.

I put it in the mala folder same thing.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #71 on: January 08, 2016, 04:08:00 pm »
Coin mech came today!!!! Cant wait to install it!!!

  With proper ventilation, how long can you safely leave a machine on?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #72 on: January 08, 2016, 04:26:38 pm »
Coin mech came today!!!! Cant wait to install it!!!

  With proper ventilation, how long can you safely leave a machine on?

A few Years give or take !! ( some parts will actually last longer being left on all the time vs. turning them off and on several times a day due to the power fluctuations caused by the on/off cycles )

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« Reply #73 on: January 08, 2016, 09:24:45 pm »
Day-am!!! And thats 24/7???!!!

Was able to install both the fan bar and the coin mech. This fan is super quiet!!! It also has an on/off button which is pretty cool. Prolly gonna try to solder a limiter switch at some point or maybe hook up some kinda thermostat.

Heres a pic of the can with the coin mech installed.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #74 on: January 08, 2016, 11:54:31 pm »
Whats a good game to use as a screensaver?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2016, 04:36:30 am »
     I would like to use an NES emulator with my mala front end. Found one called FCEUX that works well enough but i cant figure out a way to change its orientation so i can play games in the cocktail.

   Can any one help with this or reccomend an emulator or app that can do this. Can this be done using mala?
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« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2016, 10:51:34 am »
The only I've found to rotate console games is to use a aggregate emulator called Retroarch.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #77 on: January 10, 2016, 04:12:55 pm »
The only I've found to rotate console games is to use a aggregate emulator called Retroarch.

Or just rotate windows.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #78 on: January 10, 2016, 04:18:00 pm »
Yep i just rotated windows using the catalyst app for my graphics card. The i reset the orientation to mala and mame.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #79 on: January 10, 2016, 04:31:02 pm »
The only I've found to rotate console games is to use a aggregate emulator called Retroarch.

Or just rotate windows.

This will not work when you are using the Hyperspin front end with Jeepguy's cocktail theme.

The theme requires that windows run un-rotated while the theme itself is pre-rotated.

Sure, you can jump through the hoops of running a script to rotate windows but if you are already running retroarch, it's already built in.
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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #80 on: January 10, 2016, 06:27:18 pm »
You can change orientation with in mala too, just not each emulator. But the catalyst fix works just fine, everything is going the right direction now.

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #81 on: January 11, 2016, 03:08:26 am »
Well after adding emulators and games successfully for NES, SNES, and N64, i decide to try the dreamcast emu nulldc again. Was actually pretty easy installing it to windows XP. No problem at all.

  So now i can finally play marvel vs capcom!!!! Awesome!!

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #82 on: January 11, 2016, 04:11:29 am »
Ok now i cant mala to load the nulldc games. When change emulators in mala to nulldc it shows the support files and the cdi. When i click on the CDI file to start the nulldc comes up but the game wont load. I end up having to use the mouse to click file and start a game.


Any body know what im doing wrong?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #83 on: January 15, 2016, 12:37:39 am »
Got everything fixed. Still trying to configure hyperspin. For some reason its saying module but ive checked and everything is good.

Ok when un-zipping the Dreamcast roms it gives you one CDI and a few more rar's that wont open. Do these files need to be with the cdi?

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Re: Another newb wants to build a cocktail cabinet
« Reply #84 on: March 09, 2017, 12:56:31 pm »
Yea i dont have much room and a 4 foot long (not wide) 2 player machine will fit perfectly. And and only as tall as coffee table so you have to sit on the floor to play.

On a the radpberry pi, can it play up to 32-bit games? Like street fighter? Does is still need a hard drive and video card?

I meant option C on this thread

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?board=1;action=display;threadid=14155

You don't want a raspberry pi. There is literally not a worse choice you can make. Anyone who suggests you use that is either trolling you, has no idea what they are talking about or are trying to justify the fact that they ruined a project with one by pretending it isn't terrible.


Sorry to quote such an old comment but may I ask why? I thought everyone was all over the Pi? Or wasn't it as good in 2015?