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Strider
« on: February 06, 2014, 05:36:09 pm »
Just one caveat:  It is above my price range, so I probably won't get it now. http://store.steampowered.com/app/235210/



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Pre-Purchase Offer
Pre-purchase now and receive the following on launch day:

20 track digital music album mastered in 320Kbps/48Khz MP3 format
Strider Concept Art Bundle featuring Strider characters, enemies, environments, and more!
About the Game
Strider returns in a brand new adventure, complete with incredible side-scrolling action, and lightning fast combat all in a massive interconnected world! Download the full game February 19th and become the original assassin!
Key Features
The ultimate ninja returns – Strider Hiryu, the original assassin that inspired many third person action titles returns in a completely new game for a new generation of gamers as he takes on the Grand Master Meio.
Lightning fast combat – Use an arsenal of moves and weapons against your enemies whilst slicing your way through a massive interconnected game world.
Plasma Cyphers – From scorching enemies to freezing them in their tracks or deflecting a host of bullets, the indestructible plasma charged cypher offers a range of action tactics for players to use against their foes.
Seamless Traversal – Jump, climb and run through the expansive game world with the speed and agility of a ninja whilst climbing surfaces to gain that extra height and engaging the enemy from virtually any direction.
Varied enemy design – From cybernetic soldiers to immense bio-mechanical creatures the enemy types in Strider guarantee engaging and unique combat challenges.

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Re: Strider
« Reply #1 on: February 06, 2014, 05:50:54 pm »
15 bucks isn't terrible, but then again this is like the third time they've remade Strider so... meh...

I love how the fact that he was supposed to be fighting soviet Russia has been completely removed from cannon.  Yeah lord knows we wouldn't want to offend the Russians what with the way they are handling the Olympics. 

I laugh at the fact that they rejected Chicago's bid, citing the city as too underdeveloped and dangerous, while our comrades to the east are murdering puppies in the streets and making bathrooms that set two to a stall.  And that's ignoring the terrorist threats and security issues!  Yeah and our space program is dependent upon these guys anymore.  Good thing I didn't become an astronaut. 
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Re: Strider
« Reply #2 on: February 06, 2014, 08:46:31 pm »
I love how the fact that he was supposed to be fighting soviet Russia has been completely removed from cannon.  Yeah lord knows we wouldn't want to offend the Russians what with the way they are handling the Olympics. 

They did the same thing with Bionic Commando.   /sigh

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Re: Strider
« Reply #3 on: February 06, 2014, 08:57:18 pm »
cool, any idea when the launch date is?

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Re: Strider
« Reply #4 on: February 06, 2014, 08:59:57 pm »
Whelp, I just watched the whole thing.  That looks awesome!

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Re: Strider
« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2014, 09:23:42 pm »
cool, any idea when the launch date is?

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Re: Strider
« Reply #6 on: February 06, 2014, 09:32:12 pm »
It seemed that was well played in the competition.  It was #49

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« Reply #7 on: February 06, 2014, 09:58:36 pm »
I love how the fact that he was supposed to be fighting soviet Russia has been completely removed from cannon.  Yeah lord knows we wouldn't want to offend the Russians what with the way they are handling the Olympics. 

They did the same thing with Bionic Commando.   /sigh

Yeah seriously, that one was even stupider.  We can't make Nazis the bad guys now?  NAZIS?!!???

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Re: Strider
« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2014, 11:24:32 am »
I love how the fact that he was supposed to be fighting soviet Russia has been completely removed from cannon.  Yeah lord knows we wouldn't want to offend the Russians what with the way they are handling the Olympics. 

Well it's not the Cold War any more, so perhaps they decided it's not exactly relevant. I mean, it wasn't - and isn't - exactly a sweeping political statement of a game anyway so not sure it matters. The important part is if the gameplay will be any good.

Sure looks like a modern Strider to me.

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Re: Strider
« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2014, 01:11:15 pm »
I love how the fact that he was supposed to be fighting soviet Russia has been completely removed from cannon.  Yeah lord knows we wouldn't want to offend the Russians what with the way they are handling the Olympics. 

They did the same thing with Bionic Commando.   /sigh

Yeah seriously, that one was even stupider.  We can't make Nazis the bad guys now?  NAZIS?!!???

Just imagine what they'd do to Rush'n Attack!   :lol  (or "Green Beret" to our European brethren). 

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Re: Strider
« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2014, 02:51:30 pm »
Well my only gripe is that you don't get to erase the past.  Strider was set in a futuristic communist Russia.  Just because the real cold war ended doesn't mean that this fictional reality where the USSR survived needs to be altered.  Even though it was largely superficial, having a tangible link to the real world gave the setting a little more weight... now you are just fighting generic bad guys and even though it's apparent that they are communist Russians we have to pretend they aren't because of ..... reasons?

I mean are they afraid it'll impact Russian game sales?  Are the 20 people in Russia that actually purchase game legitimately really worth worrying about?

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Re: Strider
« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2014, 03:54:30 pm »
So Howard, what did you think of the new version of Red Dawn?  :lol

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Re: Strider
« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2014, 04:01:52 pm »
Fair point Howard - does give it more weight. But yeah, definitely a question of not wanting to offend anyone I'm sure.

Still quite psyched about it tho!


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Re: Strider
« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2014, 05:19:00 pm »
So Howard, what did you think of the new version of Red Dawn?  :lol

I wouldn't know.  I don't watch remakes that I know are impossible to remake from the get-go. 

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Re: Strider
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2014, 07:23:22 am »
definitely going to purchase this one.   not for 15usd, though.

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Re: Strider
« Reply #15 on: February 08, 2014, 12:08:14 pm »
Ok here's a question for you.  He's fighting robots right?  So why are they wearing fur caps? 

Lol video games. 

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Re: Strider
« Reply #16 on: February 08, 2014, 11:37:31 pm »

I love Strider, it was one of the first handful of games I got for my Sega Genesis when I was 12. I always thought Strider had a unique look and feel. I loved the sound effects music and level design.

What I see in that video looks like crap. Basically taking Striders powers and throwing 2 spoon fulls of generic over it.

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Re: Strider
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2014, 10:53:38 am »
So why are they wearing fur caps? 

They needed stereotypical headgear to make them Russian - at least in the original game.

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Re: Strider
« Reply #18 on: February 10, 2014, 11:12:52 pm »
So Howard, what did you think of the new version of Red Dawn?  :lol

I wouldn't know.  I don't watch remakes that I know are impossible to remake from the get-go.

Does that mean you aren't going to go watch Robocop??

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« Reply #19 on: February 10, 2014, 11:20:00 pm »
Damn straight.  Even Robocop 3 looks better than the trailer for that thing. 

The guy doesn't even look like a cyborg, he looks like a guy wearing 90's pretend scifi body armor. 

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Re: Strider
« Reply #20 on: February 10, 2014, 11:25:59 pm »
Damn straight.  Even Robocop 3 looks better than the trailer for that thing. 

The guy doesn't even look like a cyborg, he looks like a guy wearing 90's pretend scifi body armor.

Ok, I'll give you the body armor thing...  But RoboCop 3 being better than anything...  That I just don't know...

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Re: Strider
« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2014, 02:29:10 am »
Actually 3 isn't nearly as bad as everyone claims it is.  Take out the Robo-Ninjas, which are admittedly ridiculous, and it doesn't differ all that much from the other two Robocop films.  The jetpack is dumb, but kind of in a cool way, like that's so stupid it makes you smile.

If you wanna see something bad, watch Prime Directives.  Yeah they've got a lady with a light saber, a magical computer virus that pixelates people, a computer made from the brain of a guys dead baby, ect.  Oh and btw you know the whole black suit b.s.?  "Robo Cable" did it first.  Actually his low budget pos suit STILL looks better than the one in this remake. 

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Re: Strider
« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2014, 02:36:14 am »
Actually 3 isn't nearly as bad as everyone claims it is.  Take out the Robo-Ninjas, which are admittedly ridiculous, and it doesn't differ all that much from the other two Robocop films.  The jetpack is dumb, but kind of in a cool way, like that's so stupid it makes you smile.

If you wanna see something bad, watch Prime Directives.  Yeah they've got a lady with a light saber, a magical computer virus that pixelates people, a computer made from the brain of a guys dead baby, ect.  Oh and btw you know the whole black suit b.s.?  "Robo Cable" did it first.  Actually his low budget pos suit STILL looks better than the one in this remake.

Yeah, I saw Prime Directives when they first aired...  While you certainly have the weaknesses pegged in it, there were at least little bits and pieces I liked...  Like RoboCable...  :)  But yes, the other stuff was just insane...

RoboCop 3 was drek for the most part tho...  The jetpack was kinda cool, the android ninja were just incredibly stupid, the story was fairly lame...  And one scene that still sticks with me is RoboCop snagging that bullet out of mid air, bollocks...  :)  Also the way they just kinda pointlessly wasted Lewis annoyed me...

I'm still going to see the new one because...  well...  I just have to....  :)  We'll see if it's any good.

So you don't care for any remakes?  I know a lot of them are crap (like Red Dawn mentioned above)...  How about the Karate Kid?

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Re: Strider
« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2014, 04:34:07 am »
The story in part 3 was the best part.  Yeah it was filled with some odd plot holes, but after two films about drugs and 80's big business it was nice to move on to the social issues of immanent domain and corporate globalization.  They didn't have a choice with Lewis... she didn't want to be in the film at all.  They had to beg her just for the cameo. 

I think the problem I have is that people bash 3 and defend 2.  2 is pretty stupid.  Mind you it's put together better narrative wise, but that robot design was so illogical and the whole "lets put the brain of the cities most wanted criminal and crime boss in a killer robot!  It'll be great!" bit just lost it for me.  I like 2, I like 3, but they are about the same, 3 isn't really the dog of the franchise by any means.

About the remakes...Nope not really.  There are rules for remakes, the primary one is you aren't allowed to do a remake until all the principal cast is dead.

I attempted to watch the KK remake, the bad acting by Will Smith's little boy (Who is NOT an actor and has no business in ANY big budget feature) ran me out after about 15 minutes.  That one was DOA anyway.  The first Karate Kid was loosely based on a true story.  So you don't get to change the setting, and the martial art and the race of the kid and virtually everything else.  I mean you can, but then why call it the Karate Kid other than to trick people into seeing it?

They only exceptions I can think of that I've watched are King Kong, which was pretty awesome despite what the critics said and Fright Night.  FN is a totally different film, I'm not even sure you could consider it a remake, but I think they did a good job on that one.  Unlike the Karate Kid, the original fright night wasn't a timeless classic by any means.  Most people outside of horror buffs had never even heard of it.  So I guess it didn't seem like a blatant cash-in and that's why I gave it a free pass.

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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2014, 12:43:18 pm »
The story in part 3 was the best part.  Yeah it was filled with some odd plot holes, but after two films about drugs and 80's big business it was nice to move on to the social issues of immanent domain and corporate globalization.  They didn't have a choice with Lewis... she didn't want to be in the film at all.  They had to beg her just for the cameo. 

I think the problem I have is that people bash 3 and defend 2.  2 is pretty stupid.  Mind you it's put together better narrative wise, but that robot design was so illogical and the whole "lets put the brain of the cities most wanted criminal and crime boss in a killer robot!  It'll be great!" bit just lost it for me.  I like 2, I like 3, but they are about the same, 3 isn't really the dog of the franchise by any means.

About the remakes...Nope not really.  There are rules for remakes, the primary one is you aren't allowed to do a remake until all the principal cast is dead.

I attempted to watch the KK remake, the bad acting by Will Smith's little boy (Who is NOT an actor and has no business in ANY big budget feature) ran me out after about 15 minutes.  That one was DOA anyway.  The first Karate Kid was loosely based on a true story.  So you don't get to change the setting, and the martial art and the race of the kid and virtually everything else.  I mean you can, but then why call it the Karate Kid other than to trick people into seeing it?

They only exceptions I can think of that I've watched are King Kong, which was pretty awesome despite what the critics said and Fright Night.  FN is a totally different film, I'm not even sure you could consider it a remake, but I think they did a good job on that one.  Unlike the Karate Kid, the original fright night wasn't a timeless classic by any means.  Most people outside of horror buffs had never even heard of it.  So I guess it didn't seem like a blatant cash-in and that's why I gave it a free pass.

Robocop 2...  I can't and won't defend that one either...  :)  You're right, the "new Robocop" in it just made no sense in any way shape or form...  I thought the second was pretty bad also.

The Karate Kid...  While the new one can't touch the originals, I didn't think it was terrible either.  But I like a moderate amount of Jackie Chan films too so maybe I'm biased?  lol

I heard they were also working on a remake of The Black Hole...  I'm really not sure about that one, the only thing I didn't like about it was the acid-drop ending, but otherwise that one is a classic.  To date, I think VINCENT is the coolest of sci-fi robots (sorry R2D2)...  I also thought I'd read somewhere they were considering remaking The Last Starfighter...  Another movie that should not be touched.

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Re: Strider
« Reply #25 on: February 16, 2014, 05:10:22 pm »
I didn't notice this video when I first posted the link.  No mention of Osman.  Also, this guy could sure benefit from some scan lines in his emulators!


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Re: Strider
« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2014, 06:19:20 pm »
xbox one owners can play the game now for free.  ;D

find someone (preferably a devr) who has access to strider.
become their friend
look through their recently played games.
find strider on their recently played games list
download it.
play it.

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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2014, 04:14:00 am »
No mention of Osman.
Probably because Osman isn't a Capcom game? Yes, it was made by the same team; but not as Capcom. It also didn't receive the home-console/computer treatment making it a relatively unknown game to many people.

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« Reply #28 on: February 17, 2014, 08:04:36 am »
This thread is my new favorite thread  :lol

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« Reply #29 on: February 17, 2014, 08:59:34 am »
This thread is my new favorite thread  :lol

Thread is TL;DNR for me at the moment, but I saved the page locally to read later in case it gets PHed.  ;D

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Re: Strider
« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2014, 08:28:37 am »
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox-one/strider

To be fair, one or two more average reviews - but nothing disastrous and most point to a promising future for a rebooted franchise.

Still, nice to see people forming their opinions on having actually played the game. But I'm guessing these critics are probably all kids who don't know what they're talking about...

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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2014, 04:31:40 pm »
I didn't read much of em, but how can X post novels and get on his high horse that someone doesn't understand something and insult their intelligence but get all pissed off when someone asks questions about why someone is doing things a particular way in another thread?  Is he always playing devils advocate, a bigger troll than PBJ, or just that big of a hypocrite?

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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2014, 05:40:33 pm »
Uh, all three?

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Re: Strider
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2014, 01:59:48 am »
Here's the game in motion without all the glamor and posed staging of the trailer. 

http://kotaku.com/the-new-strider-just-feels-right-1525474006

It looks much better in motion.  It reminds me more of the zn1 arcade reboot in the late 90's than the original, but that's ok because I really liked that game. 

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« Reply #35 on: February 19, 2014, 11:43:42 am »
Here's the game in motion without all the glamor and posed staging of the trailer. 

http://kotaku.com/the-new-strider-just-feels-right-1525474006

It looks much better in motion.  It reminds me more of the zn1 arcade reboot in the late 90's than the original, but that's ok because I really liked that game.
That looks pretty awesome!

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Re: Strider
« Reply #36 on: February 19, 2014, 11:46:50 am »
For those of you familiar with Giantbomb.com, there's a quick look on there showing off about 45 mins of gameplay. What I gather from what they say of it is that it seems to be good fun if a bit lacking in meaningful fighting mechanics - a sort of Metroidvania lite. Seems as though the bulk of the thrill comes from tearing through enemies at speed - suits me! Looks like a suitable game for a cabinet.

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Re: Strider
« Reply #37 on: February 19, 2014, 12:05:42 pm »
For those of you familiar with Giantbomb.com, there's a quick look on there showing off about 45 mins of gameplay. What I gather from what they say of it is that it seems to be good fun if a bit lacking in meaningful fighting mechanics - a sort of Metroidvania lite. Seems as though the bulk of the thrill comes from tearing through enemies at speed - suits me! Looks like a suitable game for a cabinet.

I looked there initially. 

http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/quick-look-strider/2300-8523/



I haven't listened to them for a while, but I think those dudes tell it like it is. 
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Re: Strider
« Reply #38 on: February 19, 2014, 12:15:56 pm »

I looked there initially. 

http://www.giantbomb.com/videos/quick-look-strider/2300-8523/



I haven't listened to them for a while, but I think those dudes tell it like it is.

Thanks for filling in for my laziness with the link!

I've listened to almost all of their podcasts - the Giantbomb guys are very reliable, particularly if you know their personalities and where their biases lie.

They're pretty funny too.

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Re: Strider
« Reply #39 on: February 19, 2014, 04:28:37 pm »
I remember the first time I saw Strider. It was 1989 and I was at Malibu Grand Prix in Houston, TX. Not only was it the first time I'd seen action on that level, but it was also the first game I'd seen on a 27" monitor.

There was a huge crowd around the game. I miss those days.