Sony crushes Nintendo

[Dartful Dodger]

Bleaching water?

Kids today have it so easy.

When I was your age, if there was a zombie apocalypse, we'd have to make a fire by rubbing to sticks together and boil our water.


Remember kids, you can eat your poop indefinitely, but you can only drink your pee once.

[Mikezilla]

Good ol Shmokes, never a shortage of dick comments when he is around.

My goodness . . . it's nothing of the sort!  I simply miscalculated how serious you were about bleach-based water sterilization.  Had I known I never would have treated the subject with such insensitivity.

Har Har. 

[Mikezilla]

To sum up the thread:

Hey that new sony thingy looks neat, you think it will give the 3ds a run for its money?
I hate nintendo
Nintendo rocks
I like my iphone
Your iphone is retarded
Hey water is good to drink sterile
You are dumb
I am not dumb... dick
Sorry for calling you dumb

Talk about cliff notes. Way to rock. 

[Howard_Casto]

And keep in mind, I'm not arguing with you over which games are "better"  or anything, I'm arguning over which games are more popular and over which games gamers will purchase a system over.

Actually you didn't say anything about sales so much as that you need physical buttons to play anything more complex than Tic Tac Toe and that there are no major developers making games for the iPad.  Both of which are just silly comments.

Also, you're imagining my complaints about the Wii's pointer.  I've always said that the pointer was the only part of the controller that works properly.  But, like any free-motion pointer controller, it's jittery by the nature of how it's used.  It's imprecesion is not severe enough to spoil World of Goo.  Not at all.  The iPad is just better, is all.

Seriously, Howard, the list of great iPad games is super long.  Square has an RPG on the system (the name is escaping me at the moment) that goes toe-to-toe with console RPGs.  And why woldn't it?  You tap the screen where you want to go, and when a fight breaks out you navigate the turn-based battle menus with greater ease than you can with a gamepad.  Settlers of Catan on the iPad is fantastic, as are Scrabble and Ticket to Ride.  FIFA and Tiger Woods Golf are both great for the iPad.  Supposedly Madden is too, but I've never played it.  Mirror's Edge was super fun.  Multiplayer Field Runners with my wife was some of the most fun I've had with videogames in years.  Infinity Blade, while on rails, is some of the best, most satisfying sword fighting ever made (ironically better than anything the Wii controllers have delivered).  Point-and-click adventures, as I suspect you secretly agree, can be amazing, and there are great ones, both old and new available on the iPad.  A brand new You Don't Know Jack was just released.  Death Rally and Reckless Racing are supurb top-down racers with excellent controls (they'd control even better with a gamepad, but they're not a problem on the touch screen).  Civilization is great and it's much better on the iPad than the DS. Flight Control and Osmos are simply excellent games, both of which would suffer if moved to a gamepad or PC.  Tilt games do not suffer by virtue of the screen tilting.  The opposite is, of course, true.  They feel much more natural because you don't just see a graphical representation of the the game board tilting.  It actually tilts.  There are some really good games that use this functionality.  Games far better than Monkey Ball (though, that's there too, if you're into that).  Also, there are some great 2D platformers available, like Max's Magic Marker and Soozis.

On top of that nowhere-near complete list are kids-apps/games.  My daughter has a drawing pad in which she can pull a drawer out from the edge of the screen which contains crayons, paint brushes, pencils, markers, etc., in dozens of colors.  There are also a ton of stationaries and stickers and other fun extras.  When she finishes a drawing she can email it to Grandma or post it to Facebook.  She did all of this at 3 (she's 4 now).  There are countless educational apps too.  She already reads in full sentences, counts above 100, tells time, adds and subtracts most numbers below 20, knows her days of the week and months of the year and seasons.  She starts Kindergarten this fall.  Obviously I could teach her all these things without the iPad, but the iPad puts them in fun games that work well and are intuitive to use even for toddlers (unlike a gamepad).  And I haven't even begun on interactive children's books.  The adaptation of Sesame Street's There's a Monster at the End of This Book is utter genious, and is light years better than its dead-tree counterpart.  And there are dozens of Dr. Seuss books available, all better than the originals.  I currently have about 90-100 interactive children's books for the iPad.

In short, you can't play Zelda on the iPad any better than you can play World of Goo or Trauma Center on the Xbox 360.  But that doesn't make the 360 a bad system; it just makes it not suited for certain games.

Also, FWIW, you can use bluetooth gamepads on the iPad and Onlive is coming out for it shortly, with support for its own wireless gamepad.


Edit:  fixed some strange typos.  I'll freely admit that onscreen keyboards leave somehting to be desired. 

ugh... just ugh... 

I don't think you are reading my comments anymore. 

This thread is about the vita and if it will sell well.  I (and many others) said it wouldn't due to software.  You chimed in and said it wouldn't because of the prevelenace of smartphones.  My response essentially said that smartphones won't hurt portable console sales due to poor gaming software.  So we have always been talking about sales.  My aploogies if it wasn't obvious.

All those titles you mentioned... great or otherwise are not action titles.... they don't require much in terms of reflexes or you know... actual fast-pased gameplay.  They aren't platform sellers.  I mean no offense but when your rebuke is "they have a lot of great educational titles" then you are skating on thin ice.   What you described are a bunch of "non-games" that would only appeal to demographics that would never be interested in buying a portable console in the first place.  While you have listed a bunch of great titles to play if you already have an ipad or similar smartphone, you haven't listed any that would make a person go out and buy a ipad just to play the game, or better yet buy an ipad INSTEAD of a 3ds or vita.

I don't think it's worth discussing anymore though... I'm pretty sure this thread has become a parody of itself at this point.

So goodbye and thanks for all the fish!!

[shmokes]

Even if you're right (you're not, gaming is great on iOS, but whatev).  Even if you're right, it's not necessarily about whether someone would buy those devices just for games or choose those devices instead of a 3ds or Vita.  As great as an iPad is for games, I have no doubt that the Vita is capable of more. 

The much more common occurance will be people who already have iDevices who say, "Ya know, I want a Vita, and in the past I would have got one, but now I already have this pretty damned capable portable game machine with me at all times (iDevice).  It's good enough and I just can't justify laying down $200+ when I've got this thing in my pocket already."

[Malenko]

lets not call them iDevices, I hate apples naming convention, it sooooooo ---smurfin--- stupid.

I play more games on the nook I bought my GF then my PS3. Before you get all "NO WAIZ!" on that , I havent played a game on my PS3 in like 3 months but I played a "spot the difference" game on her nook for about 20 minutes. While I have some games on my iphone, I cant say I really play them with any regularity. Some "Words with friends" (that could be played on any system every made ever), some fruit ninja, and the rare game of Meteor Blitz. I use my iphone mostly for calling people, texting, and checking my e-mail...most of that is work related.

What you say makes sense.  It just doesn't match the behavior I see in pretty much everyone. 

I blame that on where you live.

[shmokes]

I agree that saying iDevice makes me sound like a tool.  But the convenience is undeniable.   

[Donkbaca]

Sony has crushed Nintendo and the Vita isn't even out yet!