WOW New LightGUN Info !!! Woot!!! :)

[MacroX]

Can ask for ems to buy a new, they will sell the led bar for user when their led bar broken down  !

I do not like to be pesimist  but... I know that 3.000 Hours of life of this "IR bar LEDS" is enough...but.....:


1)Do you know how to replace this "IR LEDS" if they die/fuse before expecting ??(wrong voltages, for example)

2)Any ideas for replace the "IR-LEDs" or any other kind of replacement in case of they die/fuse?  I do not know where to buy it   

THANKS IN ADVANCE!!!!!!!!!

[aljupy]

Modify the RC to have these lines:
device_joystick lgrawinput
device_lgrawinput_calibration none
device_mouse none

MANY THANKS PHONE LINE!!!!!!! I

[PhoneLine]

Modify the RC to have these lines:
device_joystick lgrawinput
device_lgrawinput_calibration none
device_mouse none

MANY THANKS PHONE LINE!!!!!!! I

[l2i]

Hi everyone!!! I have a quick question and im sorry if its been answered but i read through the first 10 pages of posts and started to get a headache! I have a 106inch projector screen and i dont like the way the leds would hang in the middle of the screen if i went with this gun, so i was wondering how much cord comes between the two led bars and would i have enough to make it work by putting them on the top and bottom of the screen(it is a wide screen setup). Also my couch is about ten feet back with my computer right behind me, would i have enough cord to make this work and if not is there a way to make the cords longer. 
Thanks
L2i

[daveg2000]

I"m also wondering how to get 'more' length out of a cord...
mainly the one that runs from the left LED Bar to the gun.
It would be nice to have an extra foot or 2 to that cable....

any ideas?

[darthbane2k]

anyone living happily ever after with their gun/cab setup?

Please share what version of mame and what gun drivers you are using , Whether you are using recoil and how many guns you have attached?

What holster solution did you use? I used the most unlikely one - a bicycle flask metalic holder, which screwed onto the side of the cab, fits the gun perfectly! I'll up some pics later

Any problems at all?

[Santoro]

Yes, please. I was hoping someone who succeeded in the end would have posted a thread with the 'end result' of this 38-page saga.

[darthbane2k]

Yes, please. I was hoping someone would have posted a thread with the 'end result' of this 38-page saga.

Exactly. I'll start a new thread

[MacroX]

Maybe you necessary to replace the IRs which inside LEDs stand,
if you have uncomplicated electronic background.

Hi everyone!!! I have a quick question and im sorry if its been answered but i read through the first 10 pages of posts and started to get a headache! I have a 106inch projector screen and i dont like the way the leds would hang in the middle of the screen if i went with this gun, so i was wondering how much cord comes between the two led bars and would i have enough to make it work by putting them on the top and bottom of the screen(it is a wide screen setup). Also my couch is about ten feet back with my computer right behind me, would i have enough cord to make this work and if not is there a way to make the cords longer. 
Thanks
L2i

[aljupy]

Hello, people:

I have some HomeWork to do this afternoon, because :  EMS Has JUST RELEASED the new 3.2 Version. Now it supports OFFSCREEN Reload 

It seems that 2 Players are still not supported 

I´ll try to post how it works after 8 Hours, at this time, I´am in work 

Please, Don´t let this thread  die 

[aljupy]

Hello:

About EMS DRIVER 3.2:

 **Well, It has improved a LOT, bit it is useless with mame 0,104u7, wich added  the cool "Multiple mice" Option.

 **Still Not Dual player support

 **At this time, the FASTEST  driver (The one that moves the crosshair FASTEST, is the "Smog´s GUNCON2MOUSE". 
EMS´s Driver is Slighty slower (Or should I say Noticeable??)

So, I think that if they do not emulate a PURE MOUSE like guncon2mouse or    Act Labs,  they´ll have that downsides for long time. It is just an opinion,I wish I was wrong.

**BTW it has really improved, and has not ANY bug. I would recommend it to newbies, it is very easy to set-up.
Of course, if you, can not install Guncon2Mouse, try to install EMS´s driver. 

[PhoneLine]

I'll be interested in giving these a shot when two or more guns are supported.  For now, Smog is my bestest friend 

[aljupy]

I'll be interested in giving these a shot when two or more guns are supported.  For now, Smog is my bestest friend 

Yup. you are right. The best solution at this time is the GUNCON2MOUSE, but ....men,  I am  a little dissapointed with EMS, a FREEWARE beats the sofware that I paid for it.
EMS is not a bad "driver" and it has not any bug. But,  forget it to use it with last  Mame 0,104u7 wich supports "multiple lightguns tracking"  At the end, I can Switch again to my loved MAMEPLUS    Wich has the same visual quality than ADVMAME (You can choose some Andrea

[Smog]

If anyone suffer of the same problem like aljupy, please try to find what's in common with your configurations ... I really cannot get what is the problem with his gun.

[Cananas]

Smog. Are you planning a posibility to remap the shootoffscreen to a button 2? It is not necessary for Mame, but it is for the other lightgun PC games: HOD 1&2, VirtuaCop 1&2, MadDog McCree, etc.

Read more http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=51919.0

[aljupy]

If anyone suffer of the same problem like aljupy, please try to find what's in common with your configurations ... I really cannot get what is the problem with his gun.

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[Smog]

Read more http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=51919.0

I answered you there. I rarely read other forums than main one.

I

[Cananas]

Read more http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=51919.0

I answered you there. I rarely read other forums than main one.

I

[PhoneLine]

I discovered a problem while testing out mame 104u7.  Not really a big issue, but took me a while to figure it out.

When I first boot up my system, my guns are seen in mame as mouse 1 and mouse 2.  If I goto smogs control panel and make some changes and need to unplug / replug in the guns, mame doesn't work anymore.  When I goto my controls in mame to see whats up, mame now see's the guns as mouse 3 and 4.  So, since the games were looking for mouse 1 and 2, nothing works.

Once I rebooted, all was fine and they go back to mouse 1 and 2.  This doesn't happen in Advance Mame, so I'm thinking its not the system, but something with the way mame 104u7 is reading them?  In Adv mame I can plug and unplug them 40 times, and they stay mouse 1 and 2.

Not a huge issue, as I don't change configs at all really, but in case someone has an issue, its something to look at.

[Derrick Renaud]

I discovered a problem while testing out mame 104u7.  Not really a big issue, but took me a while to figure it out.

When I first boot up my system, my guns are seen in mame as mouse 1 and mouse 2.  If I goto smogs control panel and make some changes and need to unplug / replug in the guns, mame doesn't work anymore.  When I goto my controls in mame to see whats up, mame now see's the guns as mouse 3 and 4.  So, since the games were looking for mouse 1 and 2, nothing works.

Once I rebooted, all was fine and they go back to mouse 1 and 2.  This doesn't happen in Advance Mame, so I'm thinking its not the system, but something with the way mame 104u7 is reading them?  In Adv mame I can plug and unplug them 40 times, and they stay mouse 1 and 2.

Not a huge issue, as I don't change configs at all really, but in case someone has an issue, its something to look at.

Swap your connections on your mouse/lightgun USB ports.  Then reboot.

Keep your fixed devices as the first USB devices found.

D.

[PhoneLine]

:: bows head in presence of greatness ::

Tried it, problem gone. 

Thank ya!   

[aljupy]

Hello:
As I said before: I know that I

[Smog]

I don't think LCD gun is anyhow involved with that problem .. it seems more likely a driver problem.
You said you were going to reinstall your windows ... Does it happen with the fresh OS too ?

[aljupy]

I don't think LCD gun is anyhow involved with that problem .. it seems more likely a driver problem.
You said you were going to reinstall your windows ... Does it happen with the fresh OS too ?

Yes, on Sunday I reinstalled everything, Even I formatted C:\  and it does the same.....It just saves the changes of the lightgun that when connected gives me de "default mousebuttons" 3, 4, 5.......
The LightGun that once connected gives me the "defalut buttons" 1, 2, 3,..... can not save NEVER 

Thanks to  God that it gives me the good buttons. But in House of Dead is annoying to reload with "b" button of the gun.

Thanks for the reply!!!!!! 

Even I tried in my Brother

[Cananas]

Hey, How good works "Smog

[BioFreak]

I am also having the issue where I can not save anything.
I expect that issue may be more related to the fact that I do not see the gun in the device list of the ctrl panel.

Step 1 from the manual.
"General functions in GunCon2ControlPanel
GunCon2 device list    The first thing to do is selecting the gun you want to configure from the list on the leftmost part of the form."

I have the drivers loaded and I can play games and move the cursor around the screen but I can not do any of the configurations and again the gun does not appear in the list on the left.

I've reinstalled, rebooted, disconnected the gun, reconnected the gun

Any thoughts?

Setup info:
HP Kayak - Dual P3 Xeon 733's
1GB Ram
333MHz FSB.
21" PC CRT monitor
Powered USB Hub
Win2K
IPac2
Mame32 - Version .99u4
Driver: GunCon2Driver0.9b5.zip

[Smog]

Do you see in the windows hardware manger a "GunCon2 device" under the "Human Interface Device (HID)" Folder ?

[BioFreak]

Do you see in the windows hardware manger a "GunCon2 device" under the "Human Interface Device (HID)" Folder ?

Yes.

I had originally loaded the ems drivers, but I uninstalled those, then installed your driver.

Nothing was working so I checked the hardware manager and saw that the ems driver was  still there but with the ! mark on it.

I killed that driver and unplugged the guns.

With the hardware mamager still open I plugged the gun back in, the system attempted to reload the EMS Gun driver.

I killed that and pointed to your drivers,
now the HID mouse and the GunCon2 are loaded and  EMS is no more.

I did do restarts after uninstalling and installing, getting the GunCon2 driver loaded.

Any ideas or thoughts feel free to post or pm me.
In my real life I do SQA so I don't mind testing out any ideas or theories you may have.
Let me know what you think.
 

[Lilwolf]

I ended up removing all EMS references in my registry to get it to work.  I would try there.

What happens is uninstalling EMS doesn't uninstall the driver, only their app.  You have to make sure their driver isn't registered for the guns.

Also, I think I deleted the driver file itself by hand... don't remember the name right now... but I think it was in the registry.

[BioFreak]

I ended up removing all EMS references in my registry to get it to work.  I would try there.
Also, I think I deleted the driver file itself by hand... don't remember the name right now... but I think it was in the registry.

I'll look into that.
On another note I installed Smog's driver on my WinXP box, this one has never known the ems drivers. Pluged the gun and led stands into my USB2.0 card, tried to launch the ctrl panel I got the dreaded BSOD. Machine rebooted and I was able to launch the ctrl panel and it appears that  the gun is recognized and functional. So everything seems fine on my XP machine, I may just migrate all my mame stuff over to this machine. It's a much faster machine and could help with some of the other issues I've been seeing like audio echoing.

[Smog]

oh .. I did not notice you were running on 2K !!!
Control panel still has problems in i 2K .. sorry for that, I'll fix as soon as I can.

[BioFreak]

oh .. I did not notice you were running on 2K !!!
Control panel still has problems in i 2K .. sorry for that, I'll fix as soon as I can.

No problem what so ever!
I'm just trying to do my part to contirbute info when I can.

Thanks for doing all this work to get your drivers up and running for everyone to use.

[destructor]

Hello,

My OS is Win98SE, I received LCD topgun 2 days ago. I don't plug recoil and vibration. I plug topgun and LEDs only.

--------------------
What I did:

1. Install EMSv3.2 driver - topgun don't trace mouse cursor. In hardware manager I see:"  the NTKERN.VXD  device loader(s) for this device, could not load the device driver.    To fix this, click update driver to update the device driver."

2. Remove previous drivers. Install EMSv3.0 driver - topgun don't trace mouse cursor. In hardware manager I see: "  the NTKERN.VXD  device loader(s) for this device, could not load the device driver.    To fix this, click update driver to update the device driver."

For 2 and 3 I manually copy ntkern.vxd to windows\system but it did nothing, still in hardware manager I see: "  the NTKERN.VXD  device loader(s) for this device, could not load the device driver.    To fix this, click update driver to update the device driver."

3. Remove previous drivers. Install GunCon2Driver0.9b5 - topgun trace mouse cursor but after third calibration not trace cursor. And something wrong is with tracing cursor -> see next point (4).

4. Remove previous drivers. Install EMSv1.0 drivers - topgun trace cursor but still is something wrong:
---------------------------
Now problems.

a) (as in point 3 with guncon) in vertical when I move cursor down, distance between cursor and laser point increase and at about 3/4 screen cursor disappear (and stay in right-upper corner), laser pointer is visible still. I prepared picture for it:


b) when I unplug topgun from USB and next plug again no tracing cursor even after calibration. I must restart OS and then it work.
----------------------------

Do you know solution for 'a' and 'b' problems?

Is it can be problem that monitor is 15"?

I tested resolution 800x600 and 1024x768.

des


EDIT
I forgot - horizontaly mouse tracking works fine.

[MacroX]

Do you know solution for 'a' and 'b' problems?
a) Hardware Calibration Again!
b) may be driver problems !

Q) Is it can be problem that monitor is 15"?
A) No, the topgun can be used small than 15 inchs~

Q) I tested resolution 800x600 and 1024x768.
A) this topgun dependent the LED bar only, it don't mind the
screen resolution.

Hello,

My OS is Win98SE, I received LCD topgun 2 days ago. I don't plug recoil and vibration. I plug topgun and LEDs only.

--------------------
What I did:

1. Install EMSv3.2 driver - topgun don't trace mouse cursor. In hardware manager I see:"  the NTKERN.VXD  device loader(s) for this device, could not load the device driver.    To fix this, click update driver to update the device driver."

2. Remove previous drivers. Install EMSv3.0 driver - topgun don't trace mouse cursor. In hardware manager I see: "  the NTKERN.VXD  device loader(s) for this device, could not load the device driver.    To fix this, click update driver to update the device driver."

For 2 and 3 I manually copy ntkern.vxd to windows\system but it did nothing, still in hardware manager I see: "  the NTKERN.VXD  device loader(s) for this device, could not load the device driver.    To fix this, click update driver to update the device driver."

3. Remove previous drivers. Install GunCon2Driver0.9b5 - topgun trace mouse cursor but after third calibration not trace cursor. And something wrong is with tracing cursor -> see next point (4).

4. Remove previous drivers. Install EMSv1.0 drivers - topgun trace cursor but still is something wrong:
---------------------------
Now problems.

a) (as in point 3 with guncon) in vertical when I move cursor down, distance between cursor and laser point increase and at about 3/4 screen cursor disappear (and stay in right-upper corner), laser pointer is visible still. I prepared picture for it:


b) when I unplug topgun from USB and next plug again no tracing cursor even after calibration. I must restart OS and then it work.
----------------------------

Do you know solution for 'a' and 'b' problems?

Is it can be problem that monitor is 15"?

I tested resolution 800x600 and 1024x768.

des


EDIT
I forgot - horizontaly mouse tracking works fine.

[destructor]

Do you know solution for 'a' and 'b' problems?
a) Hardware Calibration Again!

I calibrated about 100 times - still the same. I tried on my second PC with win98SE and still the same (monitor is 17"). On second PC I tried GunCon2Driver and still the same as on EMS1.0 drivers.

EDIT
I will try calibrate again, maybe I should shoot not to monitor, maybe to my wife?

b) may be driver problems !

Maybe. On my second PC is the same, when I unplug and next plug topgun, it not work. And maybe on Win98SE topgun doesn't work properly?

EDIT2
GunCon2 Control Panel doesn't detect topgun. EMS test program doesn't detect topgun too. (mouse cursor is tracked immediately after calibration but not available in control panel guncon2 and test program EMS).

[Level42]

Anyone got a working HOTD 2 No-CD ? It's a bit hard to keep opening my CP to insert the disc each time I want to play it. And YES I've got a LEGAL copy !

Thanks

[destructor]

Return to my 'a' problem. It's no calibration (after press A and B buttons) issue for 100%. I calibrate gun for 1/2 (half) screen only, next I calibrate for 2x larger screen and mouse cursor always go to 3/4 (vertically) part of screen and here is deadline for cursor.
I can't use other calibration (if it is possible) becasue every test program doesn't detect my gun.
But... I launch MAME and Terminator2 and cursor in T2 is tracking on whole screen! No 3/4 issue!
Then probably someting wrong is with drivers in win98. This issue 3/4 screen is on EMS drivers (1.0) and GunCon2 (every drivers version).

Is here somebody who run correctly topgun on win98 where windows cursor is track on whole screen?

PS. I notice that cursor in T2 is slower than gun laser (laser is on target first and next after a while cursor). Mouse is still better here.
On SilverFox page is HOTD2 video file and I see that on PC games games cursor is still  after laser. I'm disappointed. My opinon in this moment is that topgun can't be compared to real arcade guns, for example gun in Last Bounty Hunter. Mouse is still better, topgun tracking is too slow. Or maybe I do something wrong?
I have question now. Is ActLabs gun has the same issue or cursor tracking is fast?

[darthbane2k]

Anyone got a working HOTD 2 No-CD ? It's a bit hard to keep opening my CP to insert the disc each time I want to play it. And YES I've got a LEGAL copy !

Thanks

yep. I have the solution.

PM me your email address

[daveg2000]

Here is another question for those of you using 2 light guns.

I currently have 1 gun and it is pretty picky about 'where' I stand
according to the screen to calibrate properly and play.

After calibrating, I pretty much have to play in this 'zone' and dont have
a lot of wandering room with the gun.

If I add a 2nd player gun, will I run into problems where the 2nd gun
will have to be calibrated in the 'standing room' area of my 1st gun?
If so, I wont be able to use 2 guns...

[Level42]

Well, as one of the last folks here (I like the others to fix the problems  ) I received my LCD gun last saturday.
Regretfully my 4 year old son discovered it quickly and wanted to play with it, so there goes my anti-weapon upbringing (yes I hate real weapons and yes I love to kill things on-screen.....ask a shrink what's wrong with me.......)

Hooked it up, installed Smog's driver, whatfor I still don't understand but it at least works in Windows and HOTD2.
Haven't tried MAME yet.

I've put the bars horizontaly along my CRT temporarely and put back the smoked glass that came with my cab, happy to report it works fine through the glass, once I figured out how to do the hardware calibration.
Since my bezel is a plain black one, I may end up putting the bars behind it and making holes for the LED's but I'm not sure yet.

I must say that it is true that you have to stand quite a bit from the cab, would have liked to see that a bit better...o well...

Questions (Sorry if this has been explained before):
1) What is the Smog driver doing and how do I calibrate in this software. Got the latest version that is "LCD gun" compatible.
2) Why can't I calibrate my gun in HOTD2 (the option is not selectable). Yet it works fine ?