Author Topic: WOW New LightGUN Info !!! Woot!!! :) (Read 408015 times)

roylazarovich · « **Reply #1200 on:** February 21, 2006, 05:54:22 am »

Well, even the newest, not yet available, EMS Driver version 3.1 does not fix the situation, I don't think it is driver related.

Strange, I dreamt that I got a new, working gun even before I shipped my non-working gun back to Hong Kong...

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1201 on:** February 21, 2006, 06:14:13 am »

Quote from: roylazarovich on February 21, 2006, 05:54:22 am

Well, even the newest, not yet available, EMS Driver version 3.1 does not fix the situation, I don't think it is driver related.

Strange, I dreamt that I got a new, working gun even before I shipped my non-working gun back to Hong Kong...

you tried system restore?

roylazarovich · « **Reply #1202 on:** February 21, 2006, 06:18:35 am »

Yes I did.

I also tried installing the gun on a fresh system with nothing else previously installed... still nothing.

Waiting for a reply from Play Asia regarding an exchange, I did not give up on the LCD TopGun and I will spend the money to replace it, but this will be the last time.

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1203 on:** February 21, 2006, 06:43:27 am »

Quote from: roylazarovich on February 21, 2006, 06:18:35 am

Yes I did.

I also tried installing the gun on a fresh system with nothing else previously installed... still nothing.

Waiting for a reply from Play Asia regarding an exchange, I did not give up on the LCD TopGun and I will spend the money to replace it, but this will be the last time.

its got to be the gun itself then, as system restore would resolve any driver issues, as would the 'ROLLBACK DRIVER' function when you click on properties of your device in device manager.

Just order another one now and send your old one back for a full refund.

roylazarovich · « **Reply #1204 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:10:53 am »

Come to think of it, if the gun was damaged during a power failure, what prevents a new gun from facing the same fate?

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1205 on:** February 21, 2006, 07:55:08 am »

Quote from: roylazarovich on February 21, 2006, 07:10:53 am

Come to think of it, if the gun was damaged during a power failure, what prevents a new gun from facing the same fate?

did you not use a surge protector?
was the gun on (sending data) when you had your power failure?

roylazarovich · « **Reply #1206 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:06:37 am »

I did use a protector, and my Tablet and Gamepad that were connected at the time are working fine, the Gun was connected to the computer but was not in use.

Tiger-Heli · « **Reply #1207 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:59:52 am »

Quote from: darthbane2k on February 21, 2006, 04:22:13 am

Lucky N Wild
Not so much an issue, but a question. How in the hell do you play this game? You can fire but the car just crashes...

http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=L&game_id=8462 One player drives and shoots, the other just shoots, not sure how MAME configures it, though.

BTW, check your PM. . .

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1208 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:05:32 am »

Quote from: Tiger-Heli on February 21, 2006, 08:59:52 am

Quote from: darthbane2k on February 21, 2006, 04:22:13 am
Lucky N Wild
Not so much an issue, but a question. How in the hell do you play this game? You can fire but the car just crashes...
http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?letter=L&game_id=8462 One player drives and shoots, the other just shoots, not sure how MAME configures it, though.

BTW, check your PM. . .

Okay According to that link, P1 plays 'Lucky' who drives AND shoots, P2 plays 'Wild' who just shoots.
Im thinking for a simple home cab, we can map the gun to P2's controls and the P2 joystick/buttons on the control panel to P1's controls.

So in effect P1 = P2 and P2 = P1.

Silver · « **Reply #1209 on:** February 21, 2006, 09:44:36 am »

Quote from: darthbane2k on February 21, 2006, 09:05:32 am

Okay According to that link, P1 plays 'Lucky' who drives AND shoots, P2 plays 'Wild' who just shoots.
Im thinking for a simple home cab, we can map the gun to P2's controls and the P2 joystick/buttons on the control panel to P1's controls.

So in effect P1 = P2 and P2 = P1.

I'm probably being thick but not sure what you are trying to do there

?

Ideally you need at least a wheel, a pedal (to accelerate) and a gun to play the game.

Tiger-Heli · « **Reply #1210 on:** February 21, 2006, 10:34:39 am »

Quote from: Silver on February 21, 2006, 09:44:36 am

Ideally you need at least a wheel, a pedal (to accelerate) and a gun to play the game.

Ideally, you need at least a wheel, a pedal, and TWO postitional guns (judging from the KLOV picture) to play the game.

If I read Darth's idea correctly, he is going to have P2 - Wild use the gun, and P1 - Lucky drive the car.

Silver · « **Reply #1211 on:** February 21, 2006, 10:40:42 am »

Ah I see - does the game let you play single player as player 2, and drive the car for you?

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1212 on:** February 21, 2006, 10:50:07 am »

Quote from: Tiger-Heli on February 21, 2006, 10:34:39 am

Quote from: Silver on February 21, 2006, 09:44:36 am
Ideally you need at least a wheel, a pedal (to accelerate) and a gun to play the game.
Ideally, you need at least a wheel, a pedal, and TWO postitional guns (judging from the KLOV picture) to play the game.

If I read Darth's idea correctly, he is going to have P2 - Wild use the gun, and P1 - Lucky drive the car.

yup!

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1213 on:** February 21, 2006, 10:56:29 am »

Quote from: Silver on February 21, 2006, 10:40:42 am

Ah I see - does the game let you play single player as player 2, and drive the car for you?

im pretty sure (have to test when I get home)because I remember my brother messing around with it and asking as he got the option to pick either lucky or wild, which to pick.
I think its wild who shoots only...

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1214 on:** February 21, 2006, 10:58:25 am »

hate to ask again guys, but can any of you get LOCKED N LOADED to respond to the gun.
I get no cross hair, no response when shooting, nothing...

aljupy · « **Reply #1215 on:** February 21, 2006, 06:49:02 pm »

Hello:

I would like to know if someone has tested this LightGuns in a PS2.

In a Xbox : if I Shoot every corner while "hardware calibration". I reach a perfect accuracy.

In a PS2 : I do the same than a Xbox, but When I´m going to shoot to the edges, the shoot is registering about two or trhee inches

*I tested it in a Projector so I was Calibrating every corner exactly, Because I can see all the "in-game" display. No Hidden corners at all while calibrating (and playing, of course)

*This happens with both of my guns, So I think it is not malfunction.

Any ideas, friends? (I think I´ll email EMS)

Thanks!!!!!!!!!

MacroX · « **Reply #1216 on:** February 21, 2006, 08:23:54 pm »

Hey, try more again, calibrations until it's accuracy be perfect. and used the software of the game to calibrate in the game option.

Note: leave n'cm from each edges would be more bester if Ps2 consode~

Quote from: aljupy on February 21, 2006, 06:49:02 pm

Hello:

I would like to know if someone has tested this LightGuns in a PS2.

In a Xbox : if I Shoot every corner while "hardware calibration". I reach a perfect accuracy.

In a PS2 : I do the same than a Xbox, but When I

cobey · « **Reply #1217 on:** February 22, 2006, 09:34:48 am »

in virtua squad 2 if i shoot offscreen the game gets paused and minimizes. Just wondering if anyone else has this problem or if it unique to my system. thanks

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1218 on:** February 22, 2006, 10:05:17 am »

Quote from: cobey on February 22, 2006, 09:34:48 am

in virtua squad 2 if i shoot offscreen the game gets paused and minimizes. Just wondering if anyone else has this problem or if it unique to my system. thanks

Ensure that you are using the troubleshooter and follow these instructions in setting the gun up..

http://thetroubleshooter.home.mindspring.com/games/vc2/info.htm

jcrouse · « **Reply #1219 on:** February 22, 2006, 11:00:47 am »

Is there a summary that defines the best method for setting up this gun in MAME and which drivers to use for 1 player? I thought I saw where someone had a webpage but I can't find the link again.

Thanks,
John (temp n00b)

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1220 on:** February 22, 2006, 11:13:41 am »

Quote from: jcrouse on February 22, 2006, 11:00:47 am

Is there a summary that defines the best method for setting up this gun in MAME and which drivers to use for 1 player? I thought I saw where someone had a webpage but I can't find the link again.

Thanks,
John (temp n00b)

there are still MANY issues with MAME games that I do not believe the group on this forum have addressed. Particularly with games such as Under Fire, Lethal Enforcers 1 & 2, where MAME offers you NO OPTION to reload your gun, thus rendering the games unplayable..

Cananas · « **Reply #1221 on:** February 22, 2006, 11:25:13 am »

Quote from: jcrouse on February 22, 2006, 11:00:47 am

Is there a summary that defines the best method for setting up this gun in MAME and which drivers to use for 1 player? I thought I saw where someone had a webpage but I can't find the link again.

Thanks,
John (temp n00b)

Yes:
http://erikruud.freeservers.com/arcade/lcdtopgun.html
http://www.silverfoxy.f2s.com/Topgun.html

Flinkly · « **Reply #1222 on:** February 22, 2006, 05:09:40 pm »

darth, simmer down. you need to start solving problems too, not just making them.

Chazz · « **Reply #1223 on:** February 22, 2006, 07:01:21 pm »

I've got Virta Squad almost working with Troubleshooter, but the buttons seem to be mixed up. Tracking of the gun works great, but none of the buttons work right. The start and select buttons reload, and the button by your hand is the fire button.

Should I have my buttons set a certain way, or does it matter? Could this be a problem with how I have my gun set up, with Troubleshooter, or with the game?

Thanks!

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1224 on:** February 23, 2006, 04:11:46 am »

Quote from: Chazz on February 22, 2006, 07:01:21 pm

I've got Virta Squad almost working with Troubleshooter, but the buttons seem to be mixed up. Tracking of the gun works great, but none of the buttons work right. The start and select buttons reload, and the button by your hand is the fire button.

Should I have my buttons set a certain way, or does it matter? Could this be a problem with how I have my gun set up, with Troubleshooter, or with the game?

Thanks!

try reading 6 posts ago..

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1225 on:** February 23, 2006, 04:49:42 am »

guys, i've found a passable solution to the reload problem of LETHAL ENFORCERS 2 - Im guessing the same could be applied to the other gun games. I have also sucessfully done it with Under Fire.

First of all you need to enable the 'unlimited ammo' cheat which eradicates the need for a reload..

1) Goto http://cheat.retrogames.com/ and download cheat.dat

2) Open cheat.dat with note pad and search for the LETHAL ENFORCERS 2 code, which will look as follows:

Code: [Select]

; [ Lethal Enforcers II: Gun Fighters (ver EAA) ] 
le2:0:C012AD:09:000:Infinite Credits 
le2:0:C012F4:05:000:Infinite Lives PL1 
le2:0:C01316:06:000:Infinite Ammo PL1 
le2:0:C01334:05:000:Infinite Lives PL2 
le2:0:C01356:06:000:Infinite Ammo PL2

Now to bind the infinate ammo P1 cheat to a key, enter a line below the relevant cheat as follows:

; [ Lethal Enforcers II: Gun Fighters (ver EAA) ]
le2:0:C012AD:09:000:Infinite Credits
le2:0:C012F4:05:000:Infinite Lives PL1
le2:0:C01316:06:000:Infinite Ammo PL1
:le2:63004000:00000002:0000001B:00000000:Assign Infinite Ammo PL1 to 1B
le2:0:C01334:05:000:Infinite Lives PL2
le2:0:C01356:06:000:Infinite Ammo PL2

Notice where I have put "1B" - Thats the key index code that refers to button 1 on the keyboard, which is my player 1 start button. So when player 1 presses start, it automatically triggers the cheat.
You can change the key index code to whatever you like, see below:

Code: [Select]

A = 00     Q = 10      6 = 20       F3 = 30         [ = 40        
[/] = 50      CAPSLK = 60
B = 01      R = 11      7 = 21       F4 = 31         ] = 41        [*] = 51      LWIN = 61
C = 02      S = 12      8 = 22       F5 = 32         ENTER= 42     [-] = 52      RWIN = 62
D = 03      T = 13      9 = 23       F6 = 33         : = 43        [+] = 53      MENU = 63
E = 04      U = 14      [0] = 24     F7 = 34         ' = 44        [DEL] = 54
F = 05      V = 15      [1] = 25     F8 = 35         \ = 45        [ENT] = 55
G = 06      W = 16      [2] = 26     F9 = 36         \ = 46        PRTSCR = 56
H = 07      X = 17      [3] = 27     F10 = 37        , = 47        PAUSE = 57
I = 08      Y = 18      [4] = 28     F11 = 38        HOME = 48     LSHIFT = 58
J = 09      Z = 19      [5] = 29     F12 = 39        END = 49      RSHIFT = 59
K = 0A      0 = 1A      [6] = 2A     ESC = 3A        PGUP = 4A     LCTRL = 5A
L = 0B      1 = 1B      [7] = 2B     ~ = 3B          PGDN = 4B     RCTRL = 5B
M = 0C      2 = 1C      [8] = 2C     - = 3C          LEFT = 4C     LALT = 5C
N = 0D      3 = 1D      [9] = 2D     = = 3D          RIGHT =4D     RALT = 5D
O = 0E      4 = 1E      F1 = 2E      BACKSP = 3E     UP = 4E       SCRLLK = 5E
P = 0F      5 = 1F      F2 = 2F      TAB = 3F        DOWN = 4F

Now to enable the cheat in MAME:

1.3. How do I use it?
Place the CHEAT.DAT (unzipped) in the same directory as your MAME executable.
Enable cheats in MAME:

MAME.EXE (Win32 + official port)
Edit your "mame.ini" and change the line that reads
"cheats 0"
to
"cheats 1"

DMAME.EXE (DOS port)
Do the same as above but in "mame.cfg". Change
"cheats off"
to
"cheats on"

MAME32.EXE (Win32 port + GUI)
Click on "Options->Default Options..." then click on the pane marked "Miscellaneous".
Enable the tick box next to "Enable game cheats"

Now just launch the game and hit start, no more reloading for you!

Some of you will ask why I didnt simply enable the cheat at launch rather than bind to a key/button. Simple reason is, if I do this it crashes lethal enforcers during the ROM checking sequence at the start, and the game would not run at all.

The other gun games that have reload issues are listed within Cheat.dat - simply do the same to those, provided they have an unlimted ammo cheat. Only when copying the code, replace "le2" to whatever romname is relevant. eg "lethalen" for lethal enforcers 1.

roylazarovich · « **Reply #1226 on:** February 23, 2006, 06:55:37 am »

EMS Drivers version 3.1 released:

Zip version: http://www.hkems.com/files/EMS%20TopGun%20V3.1.zip
Installer version: http://www.hkems.com/files/EMS%20TopGun%20V3.1.exe

Silver, apparently you're now an official information website as far as Play Asia is concerned:

thank you for contacting Play-Asia.com.

Are you able to test the gun with PS2 or Xbox? For this two systems, no
settings are required, just plug and play.

Besides, you can go through the following website. There is a user guide
on how to set up the lcd gun. We also recommend you to inquire at its
offical website for technical issues.

EMS - TopGun Official site
http://www.hkems.com/product/xbox/LCDTopGun.htm

EMS - TopGun Official Q&A
http://www.hkems.com/qa_LCDTopGun.htm

Set up guide - by silverfoxy
http://www.silverfoxy.f2s.com/Topgun.html

By the way, this is about the same response I got the first time I requested an exchange after I replied and explained that I've tried all possibilities, what's up with these guys? am I going to have a problem here?

Silver · « **Reply #1227 on:** February 23, 2006, 07:50:15 am »

Quote from EMS site on v3.1:

"Gun2Keyboard function is now workable in MAME. With this driver, TopGun could compatible perfectly with the game "House of the Dead 3" in PC"

Should be worth a try.... Would be nice to finally be able to use "official" drivers properly...

aljupy · « **Reply #1228 on:** February 23, 2006, 08:07:10 am »

Quote from: Silver on February 23, 2006, 07:50:15 am

Quote from EMS site on v3.1:

"Gun2Keyboard function is now workable in MAME. With this driver, TopGun could compatible perfectly with the game "House of the Dead 3" in PC"

Should be worth a try.... Would be nice to finally be able to use "official" drivers properly...

I must test it too. My main Question is:

"CAN I PLAY WITH THIS VERSION WITH 2 LightGuns?" Earlier version (3.0) I did not succes

I know, I know. I can play with Wingun and Guncon2mouse, But I want to know if it is finally possible with Official "driver" v 3.1

See you!!!!!!!

MacroX · « **Reply #1229 on:** February 23, 2006, 09:11:13 am »

This driver nice in the HOD3

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=lcd+topgun

Quote from: roylazarovich on February 23, 2006, 06:55:37 am

EMS Drivers version 3.1 released:

Zip version: http://www.hkems.com/files/EMS%20TopGun%20V3.1.zip
Installer version: http://www.hkems.com/files/EMS%20TopGun%20V3.1.exe

Silver, apparently you're now an official information website as far as Play Asia is concerned:

thank you for contacting Play-Asia.com.

Are you able to test the gun with PS2 or Xbox? For this two systems, no
settings are required, just plug and play.

Besides, you can go through the following website. There is a user guide
on how to set up the lcd gun. We also recommend you to inquire at its
offical website for technical issues.

EMS - TopGun Official site
http://www.hkems.com/product/xbox/LCDTopGun.htm

EMS - TopGun Official Q&A
http://www.hkems.com/qa_LCDTopGun.htm

Set up guide - by silverfoxy
http://www.silverfoxy.f2s.com/Topgun.html

By the way, this is about the same response I got the first time I requested an exchange after I replied and explained that I've tried all possibilities, what's up with these guys? am I going to have a problem here?

vibez · « **Reply #1230 on:** February 23, 2006, 09:25:01 am »

Has anyone tried using the EMS driver with a guncon2? I wonder if it would be a good replacement for smogs or acorns driver

MKChamp · « **Reply #1231 on:** February 23, 2006, 10:15:24 am »

Also when testing the new EMS drivers, let us know if the offscreen reload works in MAME.

on a side note, what's the longest thread here at BYOAC? Is this thread going to set a record?

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1232 on:** February 23, 2006, 10:17:46 am »

I am using wingun - what are the advantages of the official EMS driver over wingun?

Ive only the one gun, but currently notice a lag when pulling the trigger in Virtua squad 2 and HOTD1 (troubleshooter games), the inability to reload in MAME and a lag when shooting outside the screen to reload in HOTD2.

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1233 on:** February 23, 2006, 10:19:05 am »

Quote from: MKChamp on February 23, 2006, 10:15:24 am

Also when testing the new EMS drivers, let us know if the offscreen reload works in MAME.

on a side note, what's the longest thread here at BYOAC? Is this thread going to set a record?

yes - the Lethal Enforcers series is the worst offender of this. Please try LE2 in your tests.

Please also try PC games such as HOTD2 to see if general off screen reload works

roylazarovich · « **Reply #1234 on:** February 23, 2006, 10:35:40 am »

Sorry to interupt your fun with my problems, but did anyone return something to Play Asia for an exchange? I'm asking because I haven't been able to get an RMA or whatever it's called from them yet, they always reply with template e-mails says please check this, please check that, no matter how much I try to explain to them that I've exhusted all the options and tested everything and I just want the gun replaced.

darthbane2k · « **Reply #1235 on:** February 23, 2006, 10:45:31 am »

Quote from: roylazarovich on February 23, 2006, 10:35:40 am

Sorry to interupt your fun with my problems, but did anyone return something to Play Asia for an exchange? I'm asking because I haven't been able to get an RMA or whatever it's called from them yet, they always reply with template e-mails says please check this, please check that, no matter how much I try to explain to them that I've exhusted all the options and tested everything and I just want the gun replaced.

Have you tried contacting EMS with your problem? they may:

a) offer a manufacturers guarantee

b) be able to chase up Play Asia on your behalf

roylazarovich · « **Reply #1236 on:** February 23, 2006, 11:15:12 am »

I have contacted EMS to try and solve the problem, I haven't approached them regarding the exchange because I didn't think they have anything to do with this as I bought my gun from Play Asia.

What is a manufactorer gurantee?

MKChamp · « **Reply #1237 on:** February 23, 2006, 11:53:41 am »

I bought my guns from play-asia. One seem to be defective. I contacted EMS and they said repair/exchange is free for all their products...just have to pay for shipping.

So I have sent them my gun and just received an email stating they got it.
They are very nice and quick. I would contact them directly.

MKChamp · « **Reply #1238 on:** February 23, 2006, 11:54:59 am »

Quote from: darthbane2k on February 23, 2006, 10:19:05 am

Quote from: MKChamp on February 23, 2006, 10:15:24 am
Also when testing the new EMS drivers, let us know if the offscreen reload works in MAME.

on a side note, what's the longest thread here at BYOAC? Is this thread going to set a record?

yes - the Lethal Enforcers series is the worst offender of this. Please try LE2 in your tests.

Please also try PC games such as HOTD2 to see if general off screen reload works

LE2 would not be a good test for offscreen reload. It is a problem in mame not the gun software. Area51 would be a good game to test to determine if the offscreen reload works.

aljupy · « **Reply #1239 on:** February 23, 2006, 11:57:07 am »

Quote from: vibez on February 23, 2006, 09:25:01 am

Has anyone tried using the EMS driver with a guncon2? I wonder if it would be a good replacement for smogs or acorns driver

You Can´nt Calibrate Edges, So I think it is useless.
I have not tested because if it would work, it would be useless.

Quote from: darthbane2k on February 23, 2006, 10:17:46 am

I am using wingun - what are the advantages of the official EMS driver over wingun?

Ive only the one gun, but currently notice a lag when pulling the trigger in Virtua squad 2 and HOTD1 (troubleshooter games), the inability to reload in MAME and a lag when shooting outside the screen to reload in HOTD2.

As you say, and as we say in this thread: Wingun suffers lag in conjunction with "troubleshooter + game" to a lot of people. Maybe with a good Graphic card you will not experience it


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