** RAM Controls Reproduction Star Wars Flight Yoke Controller **

[polaris]

I'd love to give a review guys, but I haven't gotten it.

weren't they shipped 3 weeks ago? tracking no?

[Havok]

I asked for a tracking number twice, never got one.

[Breaker]

Hey Havok,

I think you and I are close to being numbers one and two on the per-order list and I haven't heard anything either;
but I did ask to have the yoke shipped after the new year.

Dave, can you quell speculation?

Thanks,
Breaker.

[RayB]

Maybe he's now perfecting the art of shipping.

[FrizzleFried]

I asked for a tracking number twice, never got one.

Say it isn't so!

[saint]

For the conspiracy theorists ... Thread was locked today. Log files say I locked it, I don't recall locking it but I do have fat fingers... Dunno. Thread's unlocked now.

--- saint

[HaRuMaN]

Hmm

[Hoopz]

Hmm

C&C Music Factory?

Trying to figure out who will have a yoke out before Ram Controls?

 

[HaRuMaN]

No, I just wanted to give the guy the benefit of the doubt... 

To hear that no one has got one yet when he said they were shipping, well, kinda hard to continue to think positive thoughts.

[Havok]

I'm sure there's some extenuating circumstance, but I just wish Dave would get it together and send out the yokes. I've seen some of his other stuff and I know he's for real - just wish he could tie this up and finish the job. I notice he hasn't logged in for a couple of weeks, so perhaps he got pulled away, but I think at this point he needs to make this right and drop other stuff to fix this.

[retrofuture]

I know that Dave's a busy guy. It's a hobby-business for him - just wait a while and he'll come through 

He's invested a load in this project, he really cares about the old Atari games (and keeping them running).

[fatfingers]

...but I do have fat fingers...

--- saint

Wait.  Wha?   

[Hoopz]

 

[FrizzleFried]

[Havok]

...but I do have fat fingers...

--- saint

Wait.  Wha?   

Saint is saying he owns you. In other words, you are his beyotch.

[ark_ader]

One possible reason?

[Havok]

LOL - that's the only reason I will accept!

[ratzz]

Got shot down in flames last time I commented on one of these threads about David's Yoke (including by Saint!) -- so I decided to take some time off from the forum.

Few months later and I'm glad to see the situation hasn't changed!

[XtraSmiley]

I remember something I bought from Dave a few years ago was suppose to be to me in less than 2 weeks ended up taking like 4 months.  He blamed his now ex partner for the shipping problem.

I did eventually get the item, plus something extra for my trouble.

I was fine with it, YMMV.

Someone please post when you get something.

[TPB]

Maybe Dave made this announcement as a pre-emptive stike to negate an expected bagging from Frizz, and buy himself some more time, upon not releasing the yoke by the dawn of 2010 ?

Or maybe the powder coating problem has caused some last minute hitches ?


On the bright side, RAM Controls have a good special for folks placing an order for 2 or more yokes :

FREE SHIPPING ON ORDERS OF $500 OR MORE

http://www.ram-controls.com/order-sw-cab-cockpit.html

[FrizzleFried]

...naw... couldn't be.

[Level42]

Not sure if I posted this before, but if I had been Dave, I would have posted nothing, finished the yokes, shipped them to all the faithful pre-orderers and sit back and watch the forums explode with happiness.......

[whynotpizza]

Another possible reason?

[mytymaus007]

Anyone set their yoke in a control panel or cab send some pics or ideas

[Hoopz]

Anyone set their yoke in a control panel or cab send some pics or ideas

No one has received them yet.

[Level42]

David reported he had been ill on the KLOV forum.

[Hoopz]

David reported he had been ill on the KLOV forum.

I hope he gets better.  I can also state that if he can post there, he can post here too.  Effective communication in this case may have stopped some of the idle thoughts that people have...

3+ weeks of being ill isn't good though.

[Havok]

David reported he had been ill on the KLOV forum.

But then on the 13th said he was back...

[Level42]

Yup. And it seems to be 21 now.

[Deadly]

This is not aimed at anyone but I'm really tired of seeing this SUBJECT here and on KLOV. Here's what I see.
A person sets a release date and fails multiple times. Daviea has admitted that.
Gets hammered on and eventually gives an update which this cycle happens several times and is still happening.
A "They're done and being shipped woohoo post" followed by a sickness period and then an "I'm alive" update joined with a "Waiting on the artwork" post.

Look guys I know David and think a lot of him but you guys with out a doubt have every right to be angry. But c'mon now guys, this stupid yoke isn't a life or death matter is it? If you're angry and tired of this drama then get your money back and be done with it. If you want/need the yoke then after 2+ years what's a few more weeks or months?
 it's really quite that simple. So much good has come from Daviea but yet the bad seems to always outweigh the good.  I'll arguably say that if it weren't for Daviea these would've never been made anyway.

[Hoopz]

This is not aimed at anyone but I'm really tired of seeing this SUBJECT here and on KLOV.

Then don't read them.  People have a right to ask about it and some will argue about it.

I'll arguably say that if it weren't for Daviea these would've never been made anyway.

You're assuming that they are, in fact, made.  Until they ship and consequently are received, as opposed to being shipped after Christmas and ending up in lala land, you can't say that they have definitely been made.

I'm not accusing him of lying to us but the fact is that they aren't done if they haven't shipped.  Period.

Say whatever you will about what he's done for the community, if he's posting at KLOV and doesn't have the stones to post here to tell us the next reason why they haven't shipped, then he not only is a liar and bordering on a thief, but he exceptionally sucks at communication.

[RayB]

Ah, Schrodinger's cat.   

[Havok]

This is not aimed at anyone but I'm really tired of seeing this SUBJECT here and on KLOV. Here's what I see.
A person sets a release date and fails multiple times. Daviea has admitted that.
Gets hammered on and eventually gives an update which this cycle happens several times and is still happening.
A "They're done and being shipped woohoo post" followed by a sickness period and then an "I'm alive" update joined with a "Waiting on the artwork" post.

Look guys I know David and think a lot of him but you guys with out a doubt have every right to be angry. But c'mon now guys, this stupid yoke isn't a life or death matter is it? If you're angry and tired of this drama then get your money back and be done with it. If you want/need the yoke then after 2+ years what's a few more weeks or months?
 it's really quite that simple. So much good has come from Daviea but yet the bad seems to always outweigh the good.  I'll arguably say that if it weren't for Daviea these would've never been made anyway.

Look, I'm cool with Dave having issues beyond his control. I've waited this long! However, he said he shipped my yoke in December. I don't have a yoke. Three requests for a tracking number ignored. Something's not right, but I'm willing to work with Dave to get it resolved. I realize we can all have issues, and he's doing this on spare time. This thread needs to be on the main page here and at Klov until he resolves this. The main issue now is not that he has not been able to complete the project, it's that he said he shipped it, but didn't, or it's lost in the mail; which I highly suspect is not the case. We can easily prove which scenario is the right one with a tracking number. However, Dave has not stepped forward with this information either publicly or privately.

Dave was on Klov four days ago. Not a peep from him, even though these threads are active. I also have not received a personal email response or PM here or at Klov. I think at this point, people that are considering ordering from him need to know what to expect from him before purchasing, as his website is still accepting new orders.

If you know him, why not talk to him and find out what's going on, or at least ask him to chime in and update the group?

Personally, I'm not angry and believe that Dave is going to come through, but I thoroughly believe he needs to be prodded every now and then since he has so much on his plate.

As far as you being tired of seeing this thread here and at Klov; too bad - it's here to stay until we can start gushing about how perfect the yoke is once we actually receive it.

[FrizzleFried]

Dave could put all the speculation to rest...

Post a picture of a ton of yokes ready to ship.  That's all it would take.

...oh...and actually SHIPPING them would help as well... 

[ratzz]

Dave could put all the speculation to rest...

Post a picture of a ton of yokes ready to ship.  That's all it would take.

...oh...and actually SHIPPING them would help as well... 

 

[FrizzleFried]

At long last, the yoke controllers are done and shipping!!

- Dave on December 27th, 2009

Has ANYONE gotten a yoke yet?  If not,  I look forward to the "Dave" defenders to come up with some good reasons why a product that was "done and shipping" on December 27th 2009 hasn't reached their destinations as of yet.   I'm sure once more free stuff is thrown about all will be A-OK... but seriously... when,  if not now,  is it less douchetastic for me (or others) to point out the painfully obvious without being attacked by the Dave apologists?

Now I will go duck behind something because I know I'll catch a ration of ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- for this post,  but I don't care.  A duck is a duck no matter how much cool stuff they've made in the past or promised for the future.  This is getting absolutely laughably sad frankly.

If anyone wants me,  I'm back in the bunker...

 

[saint]

At this point silence is damning. I have high hopes but would like to hear something.

[DashRendar]

I agree-

I think silence is worse than anything that Dave might post as an excuse.

People will understand if he got sick, had family or money problems, etc.  A month's worth of silence after the statement that they are shipping (with no results) is the worst possible thing Dave could do....

[ark_ader]

Life has a funny and sometimes a rather rude way of throwing obstacles in your path.

These yokes can all be boxed up ready for the shipping labels to be placed on them - sitting like quiet little soldiers.

The shipping day comes and nothing happens. 

This has happened to me twice.  One being my father's untimely death the other being involved in a horrible auto accident.

These things do happen all the time, and being such shocking events - go unexplained or unnoticed by friends and customers.

Yes I might like to have a bit of a laugh regarding these yokes, but I do really hope its something simple with Dave and not something terrible.

Just something to think about, because it can happen at any time.

Most of the time without any notice at all.  Just turn on the news channel....

[FrizzleFried]

Well... being he was on this forum on the 4th of January and KLOV as late as ... the 16th or 17th of January... well... Magic 8-Ball says "Not likely".