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Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« on: May 22, 2009, 06:02:04 pm »
It's taken a while, but here are some initial designs for a Xevious Bartop.






Zorg kindly supplied me with his fantastastic vectored artwork around which the design is based.  :applaud:

I'm trying to be as sympathetic as posible to the original cabinet design while it scaling down - hopefully retaining the classic Xevious shape.

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Re: Xevious Bartop
« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2009, 06:23:36 pm »
Tiled print out with 10" CRT for scale.



Traced and ready to cut.

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Re: Xevious Bartop 10" CRT
« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2009, 04:27:29 pm »
Got some time today to cut out the sides. Starting with an MDF template.



I made 4 extras (two shown here), I'm building two of these - one for my brother and one for me - as we're both big Xevious fans. I'll keep the template in case I build another one at some point in the future.



Then routed the T-Molding slots out.



Test fitted some T-Molding. I think I need to by a glue gun, it's fairly snug across the flats, but springs out on inner and outer curves (even with v cuts). Maybe my cutter's too big, or my T-mold's too small...
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Re: Xevious Bartop 10" CRT
« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2009, 05:32:50 pm »
The Atari switches have arrived. I'm going to be using original tall plastic cones .

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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2009, 09:52:46 pm »
Xevious is one of my favorite games ever. Looks tight with the monitor in there. Once the controls are in, are you going to have room for the computer?

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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2009, 10:45:42 pm »
Cool project! I agree with TOK, It's gonna be tight. Can you remove that shielding around the monitor? That might give you a little more leeway on where to mount stuff (the main-board too). Also, don't forget the use of Hot Glue. Indispensable in my opinion.....On one of mine, I actually had to extend some of the wiring but I mounted it (main-board) to the underside of the top of the bartop to give me some extra room.


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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2009, 04:17:09 am »
There should be (famous last words!) enough room in there for the 48-in-1 and mini atx psu. I'll see when I get there! At least there is the option of taking the shielding out should needs be.
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2009, 06:35:39 am »
There's room to the side of the monitor for the Jamma board:



The PSU may go here:



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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2009, 07:32:28 am »
Is that power supply flat or is there like a little flange on the bottom of it?
The way its sitting, you're going to lose at least 1/2" if you mount the cab base flush with the edges. That means your supply is going to have to come forward, with the front edge nearly at the base of the tube just eyeballing it.
This would then put you close to where the stick bases could contact the supply if you bottom mount them.

If that thing on the bottom of the supply is something you did to account for the thickness of the cab base, ignore this.
Not trying to badger you about it, but I built a much larger bartop and there are still spots in there that are tight.  :cheers:

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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #9 on: May 24, 2009, 08:29:11 am »
TOK please feel free to Badger away!

The 'flange' sticking out is where the fan is mounted. I'm thinking of recessing it into the base. Alternatively there may be space behing the marquee with the fan venting upwards.
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #10 on: May 24, 2009, 09:27:15 am »
Laid the joystick (mag-stik plus with ball top) in place. It looks like some creative routing needs to take place to give the restrictor plate mechanism enough room. Good job it's got a short throw.

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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #11 on: May 24, 2009, 03:40:43 pm »
Test fitted the base for scale.

Pics give an indication of how much room is available inside.





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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #12 on: May 24, 2009, 03:44:21 pm »
By the way where did you get the dinky little monitor?
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #13 on: May 24, 2009, 04:13:57 pm »
Ebay for sale at 25. As luck would have it the seller works on my site (2000+ people so it's difficult to know everyone!). He had 30, I bought 4 for 90.

They're NOS as far as I can tell.
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2009, 12:41:35 am »
Very nice. Good luck! I'll be watching.

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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2009, 04:38:44 pm »
Well a few spots of rain today, but for a Bank Holiday not too bad. It usually trashes it down!

I got outside for a few hours and cut a few more pieces:





I'm going to have to be a bit cute on the angles around the marquee or it's going to end up with less depth than I want.

I tried out some marquee retainer (that I got in a big bag of 'junk' free when I bought a second hand monitor - 33" Hantarex, Lord knows what I'm going to do with it!), but although it's exactly the shape I need it's 28" across and my two cabs are 14". Taking into account the width of the cut it won't span both cabs.

I'm also having a think about how to hold the monitor plexi in place. I'm thinking of having it slide in from the top and retained by wooden blocks top and bottom. I really don't trust my routing skills to recess a groove in the sides to retain it. This is the first time I've used a router (my first cab  :)), but I'd like to get the finish as good as possible.
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #16 on: May 31, 2009, 03:24:35 pm »
Spent today catching up with the second bartop and starting to produce the speaker housing for both cabs.

I bought some black rectangular speaker grille, from eBay, to mount under the marquee and will place two 2.5" shielded speakers in there.
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2009, 12:30:33 pm »
The more I look at it, the more I think you'll be unhappy with the viewing angle. If you don't plan on playing it much, you'll be fine. I don't play my mini-galaga much because it's so small.

It looks like you'll have to look pretty straight forward on the thing to have an unobstructed view.

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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2009, 03:12:35 pm »
It depends on difference in height of table and chair I suppose.

I spent quite a bit of time (hopefully), getting the ergonomics correct. I can't see marathon sessions on them though!

I've one of the cabs in front of me and it feels pretty good. It's hard to tell from the photos, but the viewing angle's pretty wide height-wise (if the concern is the marquee obscuring the view).

The cabs are 'usable' objet d'art pieces really. I'm trying to build something that does justice to the original artwork, is pretty playable, and a bit of fun.

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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2009, 05:10:39 pm »
Your Mini-Galaga is superb by the way.
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2009, 06:27:37 pm »
A first draft of the control panel and CPO front.

Yep, it's going to be tight.

The left hand player buttons are the controls for the 48-in-1. The Magstik mount is shown, as are the Atari cone buttons.

I'm going to tweek some more...

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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #21 on: June 05, 2009, 03:36:03 pm »
Looking good.

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« Reply #22 on: June 05, 2009, 04:27:29 pm »
Looking good.

Thanks Lew.

Tested out the CP today. I'm still playing about with it - the difficulty is getting the cone buttons away from the player buttons. Currently the tendency is to rest your third finger on the cone.



I'll play about some more before making a template.
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #23 on: June 05, 2009, 04:28:54 pm »
Lew, how did you attach your monitor plexi on your (rather fabulous) Galaga bartop?
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #24 on: June 05, 2009, 04:36:19 pm »
The Marquee has a much wider aspect ratio the the original. Not a bad thing as it gives the oportunity to place a few more ships in there.

Here's the draft so far:


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« Reply #25 on: June 05, 2009, 07:28:53 pm »
this whole thing looks great!

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« Reply #26 on: June 05, 2009, 11:42:18 pm »
how did you attach your monitor plexi

I tried using velcro,  but I don't use that stuff for anything anymore. I used 2 small black screws at the top of the bezel in the black part of the artwork. You can't really tell it's there.

I really like the monitor you're using. The marquee looks good too.

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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #27 on: June 07, 2009, 07:03:19 am »


ooh! I'm rather fond of lil CRT's. Good show, old bean!


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« Reply #28 on: June 07, 2009, 08:02:19 am »
They do give a good picture - pretty tight. I haven't tried one through a MAME'd PC with scan lines (maybe I'll try one out for the next bartop!), but they look great through a VGA box on a dreamcast...
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #29 on: June 07, 2009, 12:42:47 pm »
this whole thing looks great!

Thanks Bender. I'm still trying to figure out how to finish the sides without artwork. Your Benderama has a great laminate finish, but finding laminate sheet (that's not through a high-end manufacturer) as pretty difficult and expensive.

I may have to paint or vinyl, but I'd really like to get the toughness of laminate.
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« Reply #30 on: June 07, 2009, 06:06:27 pm »
Hey Retro,
I have a great idea, I think your project is small enough that this iron on melamine might work for you ( it's only 24" wide)
seems like one roll should do your whole project, oh yeah it comes in grey and white too!

I just used this stuff on a couple of xbox 360 controllers and it worked great! almost as tough as "real" laminate, but much easier to work with, I only wish they made it 48" wide so I could use it on a full size cab

just be sure there no imperfections on the surface, but over MDF that should be no problem at all
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #31 on: June 09, 2009, 03:20:52 pm »
Thanks Bender, I'll try to find some in the UK.

Made some progress with the speaker housings (it's not glued yet as it all needs finishing/painting etc so it's a bit squiffy):



I'm mounting 2 1/2" shielded speakers behind there, with some black speaker cloth the hide them. From the images I have it looks similar to the original cab, but it's the best I can do anyway!
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« Reply #32 on: June 09, 2009, 04:49:55 pm »
I have a roll if getting it shipped, or finding it there is a problem

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« Reply #33 on: June 09, 2009, 05:36:08 pm »
Cheers Bender, I'll give you a shout if I have difficilty finding some here.
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #34 on: June 13, 2009, 04:52:53 pm »
I spent today filling, sanding, filling, sanding, drilling, screwing....

...holes for these:



Putting some piano hinge in, the idea is to have the back and sloping top hinged in two parts for easier access to the inners. Since the back panel is pretty small, having the top removable will mean I'll be able to get anywhere inside except to the bottom of the control panel. I'll leave the base screws visible for that.

The top and back will lock down with a barrel lock:



Probably placed centrally at the top of the sloping back panel.

Oh, and just to prove that the monitor fits (yep, it's tight, but it gets in there without the need to remove or modify the casing):



Did I mention that building two is a right royal pain in the  :censored:? You have to do everything twice you know - what's going on there?   :-\
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« Reply #35 on: June 18, 2009, 05:31:50 pm »
I've spent an hour a night trying to get something done - it's difficult when my 'little darlings' pick up pieces and run off with them!

Cab no. 1:



Cab no. 2:



The retaining pine bar across the top pulls the side panels together and acts as a lock for the top sloping panel. The barrel lock will interface with the bar to hold down the top and back.
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2009, 06:28:15 am »
http://www.blackheathproducts.co.uk/ are a very good cheap laminate supplier, ~30 for a 4m x 1.5m sheet!

This Thread and This Thread are very useful resources on getting laminate within the UK for a sane price!

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« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2009, 05:53:20 pm »
Thanks parag0n (and Bender). I think I'm going to cover the both cabs with laminated vinyl from http://www.arcadestickers.co.uk/.

Hot glue is crud. Both back doors have come apart, so They're being PVA'd together at the mo. I don't know whether the hot glue is not very good on MDF or not, but sticking it to pine 1/4 dowels doesn't work for me.  :angry:
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Re: Atari Xevious Bartop 10" VGA CRT
« Reply #38 on: June 24, 2009, 02:31:43 pm »
Well, all the hot glue's off now  :badmood:, time to wait for some new sanding disks to arrive.
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« Reply #39 on: June 24, 2009, 02:34:48 pm »
The holes are now drilled for the locks and air vents. I picked up a few vents (and cab handles as I bought a job lot), which have a leather texture to them. Very 80's  :applaud:.
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