Pushbutton advice

[Speedy245]

 Hey guys im just planning my christmas list for my first build and im looking into pushbuttons. From what i have found Happ Ultimate look best but im still unsure. i know its all down to personal preferance but what do you guys use? I am looking for a streetfighter feel (guess your bored of hering about streetfighter style haha) i deffo want the click and vertical microswitch are better from what i have read. Concaved also is a must. If not happ has anyone used seimitsu buttons? they do pink like the old style SF machines i used to play on but unsure if they are any good. Its not just build around streetfighter so i am willing to other options as my machine will be for every type of game really.
Thanks in advance
(also joystick advice if you want but there are loads of different threads im currently looking through so dont matter if not)

[versapak]

I'd say that vertical would definitely NOT be what you want for Street Fighter.

The vertical buttons are more stiff, which doesn't cater nearly as well to the style of play that you have in fighters.


Unless you are looking for the Japanese feel, then your best bet would be going with the Happ Horizontal w/ Pushbutton.

[Speedy245]

ahhh now im confused lolz, im sure i read that vertical were more responsive, how much difference does it make? as i said im going to be playing all sorts of games from Street Fighter to Mario to Pac Man to Space Invaders, its going to be a multi purpose cab, i keep finding myself wanting so many different things (i get excited too easy haha)

What is the difference with the japanese feel? as i say i just remember some arcade machines having pink buttons and those seimitsu buttons look like how i remember

[opt2not]

If you're going to be playing fighting games, I'd go with some nice Seimitsu or Sanwa pushbuttons. They're more responsive with less effort to push, as well they're really solid feeling. These are the buttons commonly used in Japanese fighting game cabinets.

[versapak]

The way the vertical buttons work, is that the switch is mounted into the button vertically with screws. A leg on the plunger then slides beside the switch and a little hump on the leg presses the button on the switch to activate it.

The horizontal buttons have the switch mounted horizontally with pegs built into the button. One of the legs on the plunger then presses the button on the microswitch down directly activating it.

Over time the little plastic hump on the vertical switch can wear down, and it can become less responsive. I dunno how likely that is to ever be a concern with only home use, but it is a potential problem that the horizontal buttons just don't have.

[Speedy245]

Okies are the Seimitsu pushbuttons good for other games as well? i suppose them being more responsive means they are lolz kinda stupid question, im just looking for some more reassureance really haha, god im so indecisive

Ahh right so horizontal buttons it is then 

[Franco B]

Happ suck full stop IMO.

Sanwa's are nice but the travel is too short and are too responsive.

Seimistu's for me are the perfect balance of travel and actuation pressure.

[Speedy245]

Why do you think Happ suck?
Sorry for all the questions, just trying to do as much research before i start shopping.
Been looking at the Seimitsu PS-14-GN are these good? they look smaller then the Happ, does that effect the thickness of the wood i use for the control pannel? would that then inturn effect the joystick?
again sorry for all the questions, i am doing my own reaearch by looking at other posts but its hard to find the answers

[Ginsu Victim]

Happ suck full stop IMO.

Happ aren't perfect, but the majority of us here use them. I have no real problems with them.

[Epyx]

Agreed, while not perfect, Happs are what I grew up with and think of as the "standard"...Although, I will definitely try the Seimitsu's at some future point based on the above.

[opt2not]

Prices for happs pushbuttons don't suck 

[Speedy245]

I noticed that, its amazing how expensive it is when you are buying all your buttons, i thought ahh £1.60 isnt too much so thats...... ahh sugar thats just over £25 and thats just for the Happ ones without a start button with the man on it haha

do the Seimitsu buttons make the amazing clicking sound? i read somewhere they do and other places that they dont

[versapak]

I noticed that, its amazing how expensive it is when you are buying all your buttons, i thought ahh £1.60 isnt too much so thats...... ahh sugar thats just over £25 and thats just for the Happ ones without a start button with the man on it haha

do the Seimitsu buttons make the amazing clicking sound? i read somewhere they do and other places that they dont

I'd guarantee that the Seimitsu buttons are not what you are looking for. For starters they are convex only. Second they are definitely not the kind of buttons to give you a good click.

I have nothing against them though, other than the fact that they aren't what I grew up with and thus not what I feel most comfortable using.

[Speedy245]

I have notice it is mostly down to preferance, i think i might just get one and then get one Happ and have a play about with them for a bit to see what i prefer

these look concave
http://www.gremlinsolutions.co.uk/gremimages/PS-14-GNCsuper.jpg

but yeah i think im gonna get Happ to start with and see how i go =)
Thanks for all the help guys i can see im going to love building this and the forum everyone is soo helpfull (Y)

[Ginsu Victim]

Just a heads up:
I believe www.groovygamegear.com still has the best price on Happ concave pushbuttons. I haven't checked lately, but I'm pretty sure they are the lowest (and they are a very reputable vendor).

[SephYuyX]

What about leaf switch?

[Franco B]

I should probably elaboarte a little more.

If you do want clicky concave buttons then you probably do want Happs.

I grew up with Happs and used them on my first build but after trying out some Seimitsu's I wouldn't use anything else now. As it has been said they are convex and have no click but that's what I like.