Be nice to your joysticks!!

[Ummon]

Or this can happen....been kinda wondering when it might:

[Ginsu Victim]

Did you have it screwed down too tight?

That sucks, man. Show Andy. Maybe he'll replace it.

[drpcken]

It looks like something that Indiana Jones would have half of, and have to go on a dangerous mission to recover the other piece.  A face would probably melt and he'd have a foreign sidekick for comic relief.

I better write this down...

[Epyx]

Im thinking you now test to see if Crazy Glue can live up to its name

[isucamper]

How the heck did that happen?

[Ummon]

It looks like something that Indiana Jones would have half of, and have to go on a dangerous mission to recover the other piece.  A face would probably melt and he'd have a foreign sidekick for comic relief.

I better write this down...

Hahahahah, yeah.

How the heck did that happen?

I was waiting for that. I guess ya all don't know me well enough yet. I fu...um, I broke it Ginsu. It wasn't performing properly, so I smashed the shaft to the side and downward. All warranty 'rightfully' voided and such. While I haven't done it a lot, it wasn't the first time, and I don't know whether it was already getting fatigued.

Anyways, don't do that, folks.

[severdhed]

ouch...that sucks.  You must have been pretty rough with that...kinda like how my wife plays PacMan.  I am so afraid my u360s are going to end up destroyed because of her. 

[Ginsu Victim]

I fu...um, I broke it Ginsu.

Still, they shouldn't break that easy. I've been pretty rough on my U360s trying to see if the magnet would come off, but what you've managed is insane.

[Turnarcades]

I fu...um, I broke it Ginsu.

Still, they shouldn't break that easy. I've been pretty rough on my U360s trying to see if the magnet would come off, but what you've managed is insane.

What's likely happened there is that the restrictor plate probably wasn't fully turned to either 4-way or 8-way, or the screws are a little loose and rough play has made the plate slowly shift round, then you've hit it hard in a direction that contacts the plate without knowledge it had turned. A friend reported this to me once and when I inspected the stick, sure enough the plate screws were too loose. That, and I happen to know he shakes the ---steaming pile of meadow muffin--- out of his cabinet when he plays it. Dunno why some people are so rough!

[Ummon]

I fu...um, I broke it Ginsu.

Still, they shouldn't break that easy. I've been pretty rough on my U360s trying to see if the magnet would come off, but what you've managed is insane.

When I'm pissed, I hit it pretty hard. On numerous occasions, with the side of my fist, I've tried to put my trackball through the panel, but that's just resulted in bruising my hand bone.

I fu...um, I broke it Ginsu.

Still, they shouldn't break that easy. I've been pretty rough on my U360s trying to see if the magnet would come off, but what you've managed is insane.

What's likely happened there is that the restrictor plate probably wasn't fully turned to either 4-way or 8-way, or the screws are a little loose and rough play has made the plate slowly shift round...

No no. Notice in the first picture, the screws locking the restrictor down are, both, aligned with the pcb mounting brackets, and are all the way down inside the restrictor recess. The left piece of the plate was so tight, partly becuause it was jammed down against the other half, I had to unscrew both sides of the plate to get the left one loose.

Incidentally, I haven't bothered to mix up some JB weld I got, so have been using a special restrictor I had made some time ago that is maybe a third tighter than the Ultimarc one. Kinda difficult on diagonals, but I almost strictly use this stick for 4/2-way games....so that leaves diagonal games. I'm gonna have to either fix the plate, or try some fractional values in ultramap. HM. Don't recall anyone saying they have so stay tuned.

[isucamper]

When I'm pissed, I hit it pretty hard. On numerous occasions, with the side of my fist, I've tried to put my trackball through the panel, but that's just resulted in bruising my hand bone.

Geez.  I'd hate to see what your wife looks like. 

[Turnarcades]

the screws locking the restrictor down are, both, aligned with the pcb mounting brackets, and are all the way down inside the restrictor recess. The left piece of the plate was so tight, partly becuause it was jammed down against the other half, I had to unscrew both sides of the plate to get the left one loose.

Maybe it was the other extreme then. Over-tightening it would have exerted a lot of concentrated pressure in one area, and the integrity may already have been compromised. Your angry blast just finished it off. 

[Ed_McCarron]

Are you sure that restrictor is not a consumable item?  Cause, then, it wouldn't be broken...   

[Ummon]

Geez.  I'd hate to see what your wife looks like. 

He posted a pic. She looks like a surprised person with a giant butt.

Jeez. You know I'm not married. And I live with myself.

Are you sure that restrictor is not a consumable item?  Cause, then, it wouldn't be broken...  

.....ohhh. Right. I think I get that.


Turnarcades: I don't I tighted it down that hard. Not a big deal anyways.

Well, during my exploration, I thought maybe I'd tried this before. I dunno. But what I found out was that the higher you set the custom restictor value, the greater the, like, dead space is. Seemed that way, anyways, as I started at 20, went to 40, and then 60 and it seemed to get worse.

So I looked back at the default 'custom' value, which is 9. Hmmm. So I set mine for 4. Oh. Just about perfect for 4-way and diagonal games. 8-way games are still not quite right.

Here are the details:

diagonal games:

With mame32 .104, I was quite easily just sliding the shaft (hey, hey, don't go there!) around the curve of the restrictor on both games. This is how I wanted it when I had that restrictor made. And no problems with the inherent 'play' in the shaft.

With MameUI (.13 something, but I'm guessing anything since the controls re-write), it wasn't as smooth. I tried setting Ultramap to 'analog' and letting mame pick from its maps, but that was worse.

On both, the 45-degree only diagonals was less responsive than the 4-way, 45-degree, with the same respective less-ness of quality.

4-way games: in both versions of MAME, there seems to be a little bit of dead space between directions, meaning I had to really make sure I was going whatever way. I've always preferred the 4-way UD bias anyways, and it saved the day, here. Very nice.

8-way games required using the 8-way easy diagonals, and then shaft play was coming into effect, requiring editing the map. First it was low-right. Fixed that. Then low-left had the same problem. Fixed that. Now the issue was that since the feel was so little regarding how far the stick moved, now, it felt like a bunch of lag because there was a sizeable gap between up and down: the 'center' in the map, plus the 'dead space' of the stick play. MMMMM.

But for the important games this seems to be working killer, so maybe I won't get mad at it. (Just dash my dreams of phasing out my P360s for these! Actually for 4-way games it being centered seems better than how far away the P1 stick is to left on my panel, so whatever.)

So. Those of you who are thinking of having/making tighter restrictors might wanna check this out. Materially, all ya need is some acrylic or plexi (this one's acrylic), a saw, and a hole saw.

[DJ_Izumi]

When I'm pissed, I hit it pretty hard. On numerous occasions, with the side of my fist, I've tried to put my trackball through the panel, but that's just resulted in bruising my hand bone.

Now no one on this forum will ever let you touch their stuff.

[Ummon]

When I'm pissed, I hit it pretty hard. On numerous occasions, with the side of my fist, I've tried to put my trackball through the panel, but that's just resulted in bruising my hand bone.

Now no one on this forum will ever let you touch their stuff.

I doubt I'll have the opportunity anyways....although I only treat my own stuff this way, and only if it's difficult. Especially if I have to work for it. Things given to me are like gold. Stuff I have to work for I kind of grudge. (One reason I'm getting rid of stuff, as well as why I keep my relationships simple.)