New Product: Satan's Hollow Replacement Handles - GroovyGameGear.com

[RandyT]

Ive given my idea already, about modification of a standard leaf.  That "IS" a product idea.  And, in fact, its a great one, which fixes the typical leaf problem of over-shoot leading to over-bend. (until poor performance and cessation of functionality)

Since it's a "typical problem", don't you think anyone with half a clue already understands this issue (and likely did over 20 years ago?)  Do you know what the industry did to solve it?  They developed the "snap switch".  Then they re-designed the controls to use said snap switch.

Btw - If someone were to ask me what is easier:

1) Getting a 20+ yr old joystick shell remade

or

2) Getting some source of Leaf switches made up...

Id have to say option 2 Should be easier.  Maybe that is my ignorance...

I'd have to say that it is.   #1 would be no problem, given the capital for tooling.  Molded plastic parts are made all day, every day, in thousands of factories around the world.  #2 would require resurrecting a nearly dead industry.  But if you bothered to research these things, you would know that and not be wasting everyone's time pushing for things that would be so expensive they couldn't be sold and may not be attractive to the majority in the first place.

There are sources for leafs and if one really wanted them, some compromises can be made.  But the days of the really nice stuff at a reasonable cost appear to be gone.  That's why viable alternatives are important.  And again, if you really wanted to contribute to your "cause" then feel free to do some legwork.  I understand that it's more difficult than jeering from the sidelines, but it's liable to be more productive.

[shilmover]

Randy,

Ignore Xiaou2's rant.

The sticks kick ass.  The product rocks.  The button set up is great.  Dont let Xiaou2 distract people from what this thread is all about...  a quality REPRODUCTION.  Not a warehouse find of NOS, are repro (granted from the original mold).  Let Xiaou2 buy a $199 NOS stick with leaf switches and lets move on. 

I may just pick up another stick from you as I have 2 Controls Panels and should be able to wire one up with the leaf button and one with the microswitch.

[FrizzleFried]

...yeah... i guess X won't be buying one?   That solves the whole problem.

I mean,  if you don't like the product,  why buy it,  right?

Sheeesh...

[TheShanMan]

or does your deep concern only extend to public places where you can be afforded the opportunity to call attention to yourself?

No question he comes off as an attention whore.

[Xiaou2]

 I already Own Two sets of Randys Blue Tron handles "Idiots".  As well as
got one of my collector buddies to get a set for his Tron and Discs of Tron.

 I wasnt arguing about the repo.  I was arguing about the Micro switch -vs-
a Leaf Switch. 

 Funny how ye stone throwers seem to be the most Ignorant of all...

 

[shilmover]

 I already Own Two sets of Randys Blue Tron handles "Idiots".  As well as
got one of my collector buddies to get a set for his Tron and Discs of Tron.

 I wasnt arguing about the repo.  I was arguing about the Micro switch -vs-
a Leaf Switch. 

 Funny how ye stone throwers seem to be the most Ignorant of all...

 

Wow...  So let me get this straight.   You hijack Randy's product announcement thread to start a micro vs leaf switch argument and we are the idiots? 

You prefer leafswitches, great.  Leave the rants off this thread.  Creating a thread is easy: 
- Go to the main forum (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/board,1.0.html)
- Click on New Topic (http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?action=post;board=1.0)
- Put in a Subject ("Leaf Switches are the Bomb.  Microswitches suck eggs!!")
- Spew your garbage in the Message box
- Click on Post

See, not so hard.

[Xiaou2]

Ahh, the Thread Nazi has Spoken.   Yes Master.   Didnt realize one could not disagree
or have an opinion.   I forgot about how the Zombies feel threatened when
actual THOUGHT is let loose...

[shilmover]

Ahh, the Thread Nazi has Spoken.   Yes Master.   Didnt realize one could not disagree
or have an opinion.   I forgot about how the Zombies feel threatened when
actual THOUGHT is let loose...

Yup.  You figured me out...  good for you... 

[FrizzleFried]

 I already Own Two sets of Randys Blue Tron handles "Idiots".  As well as
got one of my collector buddies to get a set for his Tron and Discs of Tron.

 I wasnt arguing about the repo.  I was arguing about the Micro switch -vs-
a Leaf Switch. 

 Funny how ye stone throwers seem to be the most Ignorant of all...

Being this thread is about Randy's Satan's Hollow Replacement Handles,  NOT a comparison of Leaf vs Micro switches,  as Randy has pointed out on more than one occasion in this very thread... I'd submit that you're the "idiot" and you're constant attention whoring is glaringly obvious... even to the most "ignorant of all" of us...

[FrizzleFried]

Ahh, the Thread Nazi has Spoken.   Yes Master.   Didnt realize one could not disagree
or have an opinion.   I forgot about how the Zombies feel threatened when
actual THOUGHT is let loose...

http://tinyurl.com/ohxlmk

[1UP]

Funny how someone who just decried Randy's exaggerations a few posts up, now resorts to comments about witch hunting and Nazism.  And this is also someone who loves to pull out the hypocrite card. 

[saint]

Ahh, the Thread Nazi has Spoken.   Yes Master.   Didnt realize one could not disagree
or have an opinion.   I forgot about how the Zombies feel threatened when
actual THOUGHT is let loose...

Gah!  Quit it!  Quit it! Stop arguing! Gah!

[shilmover]

Gah!  Quit it!  Quit it! Stop arguing! Gah!

I'm done. 

[TheShanMan]

Ahh, the Thread Nazi has Spoken.   Yes Master.   Didnt realize one could not disagree
or have an opinion.   I forgot about how the Zombies feel threatened when
actual THOUGHT is let loose...

http://tinyurl.com/ohxlmk

there is a tradition in many newsgroups and other Internet discussion forums that once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically "lost" whatever debate was in progress.

[telengard]

Got my handles last week (1 Tron set, 1 Satan's Hollow set).  This whole thing motivated me to finally build a Tron joystick module and hopefully I'll build the Satan's Hollow one next.

The joystick looks *way* better in person.  All that is missing is the florescent light (and some rust remover for the shaft).

I can now finally play the light cycle stage without zig-zagging!  Yay!    



Seems I have the spacer modules upside down, whoops...

~telengard

[telengard]

Does anyone have a recommendation for the 4 screws that go into both sides?  I don't have any screws for the Satan's Hollow joy (just came with the base and shaft).

~telengard

[RandyT]

Does anyone have a recommendation for the 4 screws that go into both sides?  I don't have any screws for the Satan's Hollow joy (just came with the base and shaft).

10-32 x 3/8ths button.  The original (at least as shipped today) has safety torx, but philips are way more convenient and look just as good.

RandyT

[TheShanMan]

I got black ones at Ace Hardware. Don't remember off hand if they are phillips or hex, but they look great.

[1UP]

I like hex button cap screws...    OSH has a good assortment of black oxide screws.

[telengard]

I like hex button cap screws...    OSH has a good assortment of black oxide screws.

That's what I have in the Tron joy ATM, although just unpainted.  I like 'em.  Just wasn't sure what size/length they were since I dug them out of a screw bag.

The security ones I had were very rusty and I managed to break my cheap torx bit trying to put one back on.

~telengard

[telengard]

Now wrapping up the Satan's Hollow and the joystick as I received it from eBay did not have the 2 small screws to attach the trigger leaf switch to the joystick's holes for them (which seem to be un-threaded on my new handles).

Any advice on how to handle this?  I'm afraid I'll crack the 2 holes if I use the wrong thread/size/etc.

~telengard