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Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« on: January 03, 2009, 01:27:28 am »
The game for round 10 is Wonder Boy. Chosen by last round winner, Drawfull.



Rules

- Use the Original sega version (set name "wboy"), default settings, no cheats.

- Use any mame version or variant you wish.

- Last day is Saturday, January 17th (around midnight Pacific Standard Time).
 
- High score wins (a tie means there's more than one winner).

- No savestates, savestate practices, etc during the round.

- MAME recordings are optional, but encouraged!

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2009, 04:07:43 am »
Well, I start it off I guess...104180. I don't know the levels very well, so sometimes I get a nasty surprise ;)
I can provide an INP if necessary (recorded on wolfmame 106). I'm sure there'll be alot better scores, and I know I can improve on it a bit.

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2009, 09:52:34 am »
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2009, 03:45:00 pm »
I played on the master sys too - I'm sure I remember that you could fly on that or at least get some shoes and go above the trees. My local arcade had one (a conversion) as well. A few years ago, me and my partner used to cain this game in MAME, she's still miles better than me at it (and vs super mario too); can't get anywhere near as far as once was able now, but still love it 'cos it's so simple. Seemed easier on a joypad than a cp.

The MARP record is scary, but helpful - not watched it for a long time, but it's a perfect game. Every doll, every fruit at max point values... eek.

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2009, 11:59:56 pm »
I used to play Wonderboy in Monsterland on the Sega Master System.  I actually finished it... which is tough.  But I've never played this version.  I'll have to try it when I get home in 2 weeks (I'm on vacation in Panama).

Man, I miss my arcade...  :P
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #5 on: January 04, 2009, 12:50:02 pm »
I always found this to be one of the more difficult side scrollers...  Played it a lot on the C64
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #6 on: January 04, 2009, 01:40:27 pm »
i just tried this game first run "174K" have not played it since : Hudson's Adventure Island on the NES this game rocks even though im terrible at the game.. who wants to sell me the actual wonder boy pcb haha..

edit*

another run 216k which really isnt good also died about 5x in the same spot haha

now 253k..
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #7 on: January 04, 2009, 03:28:54 pm »
After my time, and the music is annoying. (Someone has to be a bah hum-bug, hahahah.) Cute graphics, though.
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #8 on: January 04, 2009, 04:00:27 pm »
290940

I didn't realise that I got the hammer TWICE as I kept dying lol. Got an inp if anyone wants it.

 

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #9 on: January 04, 2009, 06:16:24 pm »
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2009, 01:57:27 am »
323,720 died alot in the same spot over and over because i was impatient on a particular scene with moving platforms. score is easily beatable. It's nice to see the instruction cards in this game, I put them in before Mr. Do had them obtained them from pinny parlour, does any one have the non-japanese ones? that i can send to him although the guru just got a gigantic pile of instruction cards so who knows what's in that pile.
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2009, 06:00:34 am »
312160

Think I died in the same place as you mrclean!

Edit, still stuck in the same place, but slight improvement: 319960



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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #12 on: January 07, 2009, 02:46:31 pm »
Slight improvement.

327370

Inp available if needed...

I got a bit further, but kept doing stupid things and missed a couple of dolls.

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #13 on: January 07, 2009, 08:06:41 pm »
Should be easy to beat, yeah. I'm not complaining. I just haven't had the patience to stick with this game past a few minutes. Good competition for you two, though.
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2009, 12:05:38 am »
it seems as though we almost had identical runs... Your turn....

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #15 on: January 08, 2009, 12:09:21 pm »
Getting better...

447,060

Still lots of crappy deaths at stupid points tho, check the inp!
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #16 on: January 09, 2009, 06:17:23 am »
What version of MAME did you use? (it helps to mention that, because I don't think INP's work across different versions)

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #17 on: January 09, 2009, 06:22:21 am »
What version of MAME did you use? (it helps to mention that, because I don't think INP's work across different versions)

Wolfmame 1.06

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #18 on: January 09, 2009, 08:19:45 pm »
Getting better...

447,060

Ooo-hoof. mrclean maybe out of it now.
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #19 on: January 10, 2009, 05:02:15 am »
It's only a couple of levels past where I think we were both stuck. But we shall see. I think the most I ever got was about 550k but that was a long time ago.

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #20 on: January 10, 2009, 12:09:20 pm »
Well, it's time for me to finally jump in on these threads. 

Looks like I'm destined to suck hind teat on this one.  Oh well.  INPs will be posted when and if I take the lead.





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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #21 on: January 10, 2009, 06:34:30 pm »
Quote
Ooo-hoof. mrclean maybe out of it now.

451,040

 Say what now ?

*Does Any one have this games control panel overlay ? and the sideart sega logo? for sale or maybe the file for printing purposes?? http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=88361.0

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #22 on: January 11, 2009, 08:25:36 am »
Can't help with your stuff, but 483,440

Inp available if anyone wants it.


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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #23 on: January 11, 2009, 04:47:42 pm »
483,690

Again any one have artwork for this game ??!!
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #24 on: January 11, 2009, 06:31:09 pm »
Gave up at 600k.  Don't wanna make you guys look TOO bad.  >:D

601,370 points.  Mame 32 v0.125, INP available.

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #25 on: January 11, 2009, 09:10:50 pm »
Hahahahah. This is all getting good.
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #26 on: January 11, 2009, 10:44:51 pm »
I have a new idea for the competition's for the future.. the winner should win a piece from the actual game. Maybe it can be the original manual / marquee , side art whatever anything. Maybe an entree fee ? or volunteer donation ?? just a small prize related to the game :blah:
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #27 on: January 11, 2009, 11:36:50 pm »
I have a new idea for the competition's for the future.. the winner should win a piece from the actual game. Maybe it can be the original manual / marquee , side art whatever anything. Maybe an entree fee ? or volunteer donation ?? just a small prize related to the game :blah:

We need sponsorship!  Someone talk to someone.

I'm at 452000 and some change.  Holy balls at world 4-3.  I was wondering when this game would get so hard that I wouldn't want to play it anymore. 

For the record, the top 5 scores recorded on Twin Galaxies are as follows:

1.  1,217,240
2.  1,171,780
3.  1,000,060
4.  895,160
5.  510,980

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #28 on: January 12, 2009, 04:37:02 pm »
1,108,180 points.  Got up to 7-1.  Mame 32 v0.125, INP available.

I'm a bit rusty, but I'll try to beat the "world record" by the end of the week.  ;D

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #29 on: January 12, 2009, 07:02:11 pm »
Whelp... I'm out, you win.
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #30 on: January 13, 2009, 01:37:08 am »
1,108,180 points.  Got up to 7-1.  Mame 32 v0.125, INP available.

I'm a bit rusty, but I'll try to beat the "world record" by the end of the week.  ;D

Nice score, I'd love to see the INP. Did you get all dolls up to that point?

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #31 on: January 13, 2009, 06:05:19 pm »
Whelp... I'm out, you win.

Hahah. Four more days, too.
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #32 on: January 13, 2009, 07:24:00 pm »
Nice score, I'd love to see the INP. Did you get all dolls up to that point?
No problem, I didn't realise INP files could be attached.  :)

Didn't get all the dolls, I missed 5-1 and 6-4.  Not that I planned on doing area 8 anyway.

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #33 on: January 13, 2009, 10:42:30 pm »
1,924,090 points, finished at area 7-4.  :cheers:

I had to zip the zip of the INP to get it small enough to attach.  :)
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2009, 03:34:31 am »
I can't get the inp to work, which is a shame. I tried using MAMEXT 0.125 (the only version of 125 I could locate)

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2009, 09:22:53 am »
1,924,090 points, finished at area 7-4.  :cheers:

I had to zip the zip of the INP to get it small enough to attach.  :)

That is absolutely insane.  You must have played this game a whole lot to get that good.  What is your history with this game?  Do you own a dedicated machine?  How much have you played it?
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2009, 06:45:13 pm »
I can't get the inp to work, which is a shame. I tried using MAMEXT 0.125 (the only version of 125 I could locate)
Download mame0125b.exe from http://mamedev.org/oldrel.html
Put wboy.zip into a folder called rom
Put the inp (perhaps rename it to something shorter) into a folder called inp
Run the command line mame wboy -playback wboyrecording.inp
Hope that works for you.  :)

I did a bit of showing off at the end of area 1, riding the skateboard into the boss's cave.  ;D

That is absolutely insane.  You must have played this game a whole lot to get that good.  What is your history with this game?  Do you own a dedicated machine?  How much have you played it?
I played it a lot in the arcades from '86 to the mid 90s, and I got good enough to reach area 5 or so.  I even tried to buy a cab of it but I couldn't find one.  When it came out on MAME I played it a lot.  A lot of reflexive memories came back which made playing easy.  I could easily finish Wonder Boy in Monster Land so I was determined to finish the original Wonder Boy.
I put together a Wonder Boy web page with everything I knew about the game, including all the secrets and panoramic screenshots of entire levels.  The remnants of it can be found at http://web.archive.org/web/20060821232109/afk.sagamers.com/wonderboy/wonderboy.html
Collecting information and graphics for the web page taught me a lot about the game.  I also watched game recordings from MARP, when I could get them to work.  Eventually I was able to finish the game at area 7-4, or collect all the dolls and reach area 8-3.  My best score at this point was 1.8m, but I was always more interested in going for distance rather than score.

Until this week, I hadn't played it in a couple of years.  It all came back to me very quickly though, so I was quite pleased that I could finish it within a few days.  :)  I really don't have to concentrate until area 5-2, it hits some kind of threshold of difficulty there for me.

Looking at the Twin Galaxies high score, it looks like they probably didn't get past area 7-3 or 7-4.  It's quite hard there, and if you finish at 7-4 you can easily get around 1.4 or 1.5 million.  At the end, each doll collected during the game is worth another 10,000, and each remaining life is worth 50,000.  I had a nice lot of lives remaining which is why my score hit 1.9 million.

Yesderday I collected all the dolls and played up to area 8.  I wanted to see if it's as hard as I remember.  It's even harder than I remember.  :o

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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #37 on: January 15, 2009, 09:16:38 pm »
1,924,090 points, finished at area 7-4.  :cheers:

I had to zip the zip of the INP to get it small enough to attach.  :)

I think it has to be zipped, regardless.
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Re: Game Competition #10: Wonder Boy
« Reply #38 on: January 16, 2009, 12:28:09 am »
Yeah, but the zip was still too big.  I had to zip it again to squeeze a few more KB out of it.  ;D

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« Reply #39 on: January 16, 2009, 08:22:52 am »
great site man (kinda janky loading unfortunately).

i think it goes without saying that you are the unofficial king of Wonderboy.  you should get out there and crush that world record. 
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