Author Topic: San Francisco Rush machine (Read 11837 times)

TrAb · « **on:** December 08, 2008, 01:18:18 pm »

Hey guys, there is a guy selling this arcade machine locally near me and im thinking about getting it. He is asking $450 for it and it appears to be in decent shape. I was just wondering if anybody had any info on this game, is it any fun? What should i look out for that might break on this thing and does it sound like a good deal? I can probably get it for like 400 even. Thanks guys o here is the listing so u guys can see

Popcorrin · « **Reply #1 on:** December 08, 2008, 01:47:20 pm »

Thanks for the link. I just snatched it up.

Popcorrin · « **Reply #2 on:** December 08, 2008, 01:49:55 pm »

Actually your link doesn't show the listing, it's just an email link. But if it's in decent shape, I think it's worth it. Rush is a pretty fun game.

TrAb · « **Reply #3 on:** December 08, 2008, 02:04:15 pm »

Did they make a rush 2 for the arcade? Also where could i find parts for it if needed? Im kinda getting into the arcade collecting business just now so im trying to learn a little something lol.

shardian · « **Reply #4 on:** December 08, 2008, 02:34:47 pm »

Personally, I do not like the SF Rush games. I think the controls are non-responsive, and the graphics are inferior to the Sega racing games.

Having said that, if it is working 100% it is easily worth $400. Even though I'm not a huge fan I would probably buy one for that price.

TrAb · « **Reply #5 on:** December 08, 2008, 02:59:04 pm »

Yeah it so hard for me to choose which game i would like, but like you said the price is good on this one. Also i used to love SFrush on the N64 back in the day...

TrAb · « **Reply #6 on:** December 08, 2008, 03:44:51 pm »

O also i wasnt sure how these driving arcades are made, but say i got the PCB for like a need for speed or something, that wouldent fit like a jamma or something would it?

mrserv0n · « **Reply #7 on:** December 08, 2008, 03:49:03 pm »

That is a good price for that machine. I would say take it, it will be worth at least what you paid when your ready to resell they can range up to $1200

Hoopz · « **Reply #8 on:** December 08, 2008, 07:29:21 pm »

Quote from: TrAb on December 08, 2008, 02:04:15 pm

Did they make a rush 2 for the arcade? Also where could i find parts for it if needed? Im kinda getting into the arcade collecting business just now so im trying to learn a little something lol.

Hmmm, I think there was a thread in B/S/T awhile ago....

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=85193.0

Mauzy · « **Reply #9 on:** December 08, 2008, 08:35:44 pm »

Quote from: Hoopz on December 08, 2008, 07:29:21 pm

Quote from: TrAb on December 08, 2008, 02:04:15 pm
Did they make a rush 2 for the arcade? Also where could i find parts for it if needed? Im kinda getting into the arcade collecting business just now so im trying to learn a little something lol.
Hmmm, I think there was a thread in B/S/T awhile ago....

http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=85193.0

How in God's name did you find that?!?!?

Anyway, I f I had 400 bux and a chance at a RUSH cab, I would do it sight unseen if it worked. I loved the RUSH series on the N64, but I only ever played RUSH 2049 in the arcades...

Hoopz · « **Reply #10 on:** December 09, 2008, 07:17:22 am »

Quote from: Mauzy on December 08, 2008, 08:35:44 pm

How in God's name did you find that?!?!?

Anyway, I f I had 400 bux and a chance at a RUSH cab, I would do it sight unseen if it worked. I loved the RUSH series on the N64, but I only ever played RUSH 2049 in the arcades...

It's my post.

TrAb · « **Reply #11 on:** December 09, 2008, 10:09:16 pm »

Hey guys i went and picked it up today, the graphics are not in the best of shape, kinda torn on the edges and faded. But the games plays just like new. Dude gave me the original owners manual and 4 hard drives i tested them all and one has SFR on it. SO i have two hard drives with SFR on them. Other two didnt do anything. Anyways now that i have it home im fixing small things on it and a idea struck me. What if i could gut this thing out and put a computer in it and hook up a nice force feedback wheel to it and make it into a driving kinda cab... There is more than enough room for the computer so thats kewl, i could easily hook up a really nice 5 speaker computer surround sound in it just like the factory speakers, i have the logitech g25 racing wheel ( http://www.cesweb.org/shared_files/innovations/innovations_2004/5671/mainphoto5671.jpg ) anyways there is a place for the shifter to go, and i know i could make a nice mount for those pedals, but the only two things that worry me is what im going to do for a screen and how i will get the steering wheel to work. My first thought on the screen is that i could use this small HD projector i have but it would have to be over my shoulder and my head will kinda get in the way of it. If anybody has some idea's let me know. Thanks guys

Mauzy · « **Reply #12 on:** December 09, 2008, 10:15:06 pm »

Well, unless you put a super computer in there you won't be playing RUSH, thats for sure...

TrAb · « **Reply #13 on:** December 09, 2008, 10:19:12 pm »

O no i wanted to just play some regular PC racers in it, like DIRT mainly and couple others... No No not trying to do rush lol

Mauzy · « **Reply #14 on:** December 09, 2008, 10:25:44 pm »

Oh. Well, Im not really in on the encoder front for non microswitch inputs. You could make that work though.

TrAb · « **Reply #15 on:** December 09, 2008, 10:45:05 pm »

Dang im really torn between trying to do that or trying to figure out if another game with go in it. Because i really dont like the rush all that much. Would love to be able to put a f&f kit in it, or even cruisn world... Dunno if thats possible though.

TrAb · « **Reply #16 on:** December 09, 2008, 11:38:53 pm »

If anybody knows where could i find a rush alcatraz upgrade for this? I think if i could od this i would be happy with it.

wbassett · « **Reply #17 on:** December 10, 2008, 08:13:18 am »

If it really does play like new it would be a shame to gut it and MAME it.

Since it sounds like cosmetic issues is the only thing wrong with it, why not get some replacement side art and restore it and then sell it for a profit? You may have to wait awhile for the sale, but tax returns are right around the corner and companies that give out annual bonuses also give them out early in the year, so you may not have to wait that long.

Then take your profits and buy a gutted or nonworking cab for around $100 and MAME that! Even if you sell it and only make a hundred on it, your next cab is basically free!

I haven't been into this nearly as long as most people on here but MAMEing a fully functional cab is a really tough choice to make. If you do go that route keep everything so you can convert it back easily, or sell all the internals to someone that's looking to restore their cab.

As far as the projector... HT is my area of expertise. I know some people that play games on their projectors, but most people don't. Mainly because of the cost of bulbs and you'll eat through bulbs using it for games (or TV as some people use their projectors) and at several hundred bucks a pop for a bulb... you'd be better off getting a decent display that you can connect your PC to. Plus unless you have a bright projector, you'll be playing in the dark. If you're room has windows and your PJ isn't very bright and without the right screen, you'll only be playing at night too. Just a couple of things to keep in mind is all. If you rear project, then you won't have the lighting issues but still will face replacement bulb costs.

TrAb · « **Reply #18 on:** December 10, 2008, 09:38:29 am »

Heres a pic i really like the machine, the game just gets boring very quickly. But i was watching some vids on this SFR the rock edition and it looks great. So like i said before if anybody knows where i can find a conversion or what parts are needed PLEASE let me know. Thanks guys

u_rebelscum · « **Reply #19 on:** December 10, 2008, 02:54:02 pm »

Rush and Rush the Rock used the same hardware, AFAIK. At least system16.com says so. According to this page, he upgraded from Rush to RTR with chip&HD upgrade (and just upping the HD half worked). So I bet there used to be official upgrade kits that where sold, but most (if not all) have been applied already. That would leave HD only "updates", and unofficial kits.

TrAb · « **Reply #20 on:** December 10, 2008, 03:23:14 pm »

Thanks for that link, dang now to find out where im gonna find these chips. The place he says he got them from doesnt sell anything online... Anyways even if i did find the chips i do not know how to install them. Is it pretty hard? Im figuring it requires some skilled soldering...

SirPeale · « **Reply #21 on:** December 10, 2008, 03:50:58 pm »

Don't forget to look for all the little easter eggs along the way.

I *think* there are EE in Rush...there are a ton in 2049.

TrAb · « **Reply #22 on:** December 10, 2008, 04:30:34 pm »

Yeah i have found alot of secrete locations so far. I just want more tracks, only having 3 is crazy

TrAb · « **Reply #23 on:** December 10, 2008, 07:25:35 pm »

Im new to this arcade scene so i was wondering are there any other arcade type forums that are better or have more members than this one? Also if i picked up a RTR hard drive and motherboard that should do this conversion right.

daywane · « **Reply #24 on:** December 10, 2008, 07:38:23 pm »

you mentioned force feed back .
If you MAME it , Force feed back is not in Mame

TrAb · « **Reply #25 on:** December 10, 2008, 07:41:59 pm »

No i didnt mean mame it, i meant more of just putting in a home computer and playing racing games that were made for the PC and using my current PC wheel i have that has force feedback but ive scrapped that idea...

TrAb · « **Reply #26 on:** December 10, 2008, 09:41:46 pm »

I did a search on here and found somebody with a motherboard and hard drive for teh alcatraz sfr but he wants 300 for it which sounds high to me...

SirPeale · « **Reply #27 on:** December 11, 2008, 09:48:23 am »

Quote from: TrAb on December 10, 2008, 07:41:59 pm

No i didnt mean mame it, i meant more of just putting in a home computer and playing racing games that were made for the PC and using my current PC wheel i have that has force feedback but ive scrapped that idea...

Though you're not using Mame, it's still referred to as "Mameing" it.

TrAb · « **Reply #28 on:** December 11, 2008, 10:27:27 am »

Hmm i didnt know that, thanks o and i found some NOS stickers on egay but they are also trying to charge out the ass lo,l

TrAb · « **Reply #29 on:** December 11, 2008, 05:37:27 pm »

Ok i have some new art coming for it, and picked up some paint tonight hopefully i can make this thing look new again

bishmasterb · « **Reply #30 on:** December 11, 2008, 06:09:47 pm »

Quote from: TrAb on December 11, 2008, 05:37:27 pm

Ok i have some new art coming for it, and picked up some paint tonight hopefully i can make this thing look new again

I have the same machine but haven't been able to find the side artwork, particularly for the sides of the base that the chair sits on. Where did you find it?

TrAb · « **Reply #31 on:** December 11, 2008, 07:01:31 pm »

I didnt find the side art or the art you are talking about. There is somebody on ebay right now selling some NOS stickers of the "the rock" upgrade stickers i guess. I guess it was a art package you got when u ordered the upgrade kit, here is a link so whenever i get this upgraded to The Rock it will be more appropriate and will cover up some of the old faded parts on there until i can find some newer side art to slap on.

TrAb · « **Reply #32 on:** December 15, 2008, 11:11:31 pm »

Update, i ordered the motherboard to upgrade it to the rock edition. Also put the stickers on tonight that came with the rock editions kit. Last thing i finished repainting the whole thing and polishing the chrome. I will get some pics for you guy probably tommorow.

TrAb · « **Reply #33 on:** December 22, 2008, 09:55:18 pm »

Hey guys i finally got the pics and have updated it to the rock edition. ALOT more fun to play and the new tracks are alot more elaborate, new cars are also alot sweeter. Here are some pics of it all cleaned up dont mind the mess around it. Thanks for looking

pinballwizard79 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 22, 2008, 11:21:59 pm »

Bro thats in good shape, I have been hunting for a racer lately & found nothing but garbage.

You are very lucky & I am very jealous.

TrAb · « **Reply #35 on:** December 24, 2008, 08:48:32 am »

Thanks, yeah im happy with it i put alot of work into making it look nice. Im glad how it turned out.

pinballwizard79 · « **Reply #36 on:** December 24, 2008, 03:27:39 pm »

You should sell it & drive to STL

Smeghead · « **Reply #37 on:** April 24, 2015, 01:47:14 pm »

*****Thread resurrection! *****

Has anyone ever MAMEd one of these? I can get the cab for $50 and have alot of MAME experience. Just not sure about the wheel.
I know there are ones that are 360 and ones that arent and problems associated

Any tips/advice?

BadMouth · « **Reply #38 on:** April 24, 2015, 01:56:37 pm »

Quote from: Smeghead on April 24, 2015, 01:47:14 pm

*****Thread resurrection! *****

Has anyone ever MAMEd one of these? I can get the cab for $50 and have alot of MAME experience. Just not sure about the wheel.
I know there are ones that are 360 and ones that arent and problems associated

Any tips/advice?

See the driving cab info thread in the driving cab sub-forum.
http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,105961.0.html
(see the INTERFACING ORIGINAL CONTROLS section on the 2nd post)

You could wire it up to a U-HID without too much trouble, but would lose force feedback.

It uses a standard Happ ffb driving setup that was used in most popular games not made by Sega.
People have interfaced it by using an older potentiometer based Logitech wheel and a servo amplifier (for the force feedback) with varying results.
A few have been happy with it, more have been disappointed because they have to turn centering feedback way down to prevent the wheel from slingshotting back and forth past center if not held.

Personally, I'd get it and drop a Logitech Driving Force GT or G27 in it, and sell the Happ parts.
Not as powerful, but least hassle & most compatibility.

EDIT: Forgot to mention the hard to find Immersion USB arcade board that would pretty much make this plug and play.
The hard part is finding one. Global VR won't sell you one unless you have a core to return for repair.
Their stock was depleted by companies using them for to interface their high end sim wheels.

More info here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php/topic,135310.0.html

Smeghead · « **Reply #39 on:** April 24, 2015, 03:31:04 pm »

I was thinking the AHAP

But putting a nice PC wheel in there sounds like a better idea, and simpler USB
Most of those only turn about 45 degrees though, how would games like pole position work? As long as its turned the car is in turn?
In the arcades you just span it like a top


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