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Author Topic: Oh yes! Another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-16) 99% complete  (Read 12996 times)

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99% complete on 11-16-2008


This is my second cab attempt. My first can be seen at http://home.wavecable.com/~jaythom256/index.htm . This cab is inspired by (well Pacman, duh!) the mini cab featured in Saint's book, which helped a lot on my first cab BTW, and by this post http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=56370.0 by JamieMcShan. In fact most of the graphics will be based mostly on his and I'm planning on building a mini coin door like the one he built and hopefully I'll be using the Midway label he created for his coin door. My cab will be using a 6 button layout unlike the 2 or 3 buttons I see on most minis. I'm also going with a horizontal layout so I can get the most bang for the buck in terms of games that can be played on it. My son who is only 5 likes playing some of the fighter games like marvell vs capcom, otherwise I would have stuck with the traditional vertical layout and only stuck with classic games. Here are some pics of the build so far. This is about 2 weekends worth of work.






















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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! 2008-10-19
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2008, 04:59:47 pm »
Here is the cpo I am going to use. It is almost the same as JamieMcShan's except for the button layout. If anyone wants the large version, pm me and I'll email it to you.

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! 2008-10-19
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2008, 07:43:37 pm »
nice.  Good luck.

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! 2008-10-19
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2008, 09:27:55 pm »
Love it!!!  :cheers:
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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! 2008-10-19
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2008, 11:37:29 pm »
Looks good!

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! 2008-10-19
« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2008, 01:23:46 am »
Thanks everyone, here is a mock up of the bezel. Do you think it looks too busy? What can I do to make it better? I have 18.5" wide by 15" tall with about a 2" thick border. Not a lot to play with. Any tips with working with bezels? On my first cab I elected to use graylite #14 smoked glass and I did not use a bezel at all. I'm planning on printing the bezel and sandwiching it between 2 pieces of tempered glass. Your tips and suggestions welcome.

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! 2008-10-19
« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2008, 08:37:43 am »
My hint:
Next time screw from the inside! That way you keep the exterior smooth and no filling of screw holes is needed!

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! 2008-10-19
« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2008, 09:42:04 am »
Looks Awesome! Your kid is going to love it trust me, I speak from experiance!

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! 2008-10-19
« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2008, 11:04:34 am »
My hint:
Next time screw from the inside! That way you keep the exterior smooth and no filling of screw holes is needed!

Yeah I thought someone would call me out on that. I could try to give excuses as to why I did it this way and to be honest I dont know why because on my first cab I did this on the bottom half and then switched over to drill and screw from the inside on the top. Looking at the cab you can't tell the difference either way but I think in the long run it was easier to work from the inside. I guess I was just in a hurry to get started on this and forgot my lessons learned from the last time.

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (Updated 2008-10-28)
« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2008, 01:22:46 pm »
I thought I would post an update. I received the marquee retainer from Ebay(TornadoTerrys was out), pushbuttons (from TornadoTerrys) and tmolding (t-molding.com) last week. I also picked up some Midway 25 cent coin door inserts from thisoldgame http://www.thisoldgame.com/thisoldgame/new_page_2.htm.

Someone once said the devil is in the details and I have to say that the farther along on this project I get, the more messy and disorganized my garage gets and the harder it is to find the tools I need, so progress is slow. I did manage to do a few things though. I got a hole cut in the top for the exaust fan. I mounted the CP with a piano hinge. I started work on the coin door. I started work on the keybord encoder from a keyboard I picked up from the goodwill, I'm going hardcore on this one (plus I'm kind of on a tight budget). I printed up the marquee at work on a color laser printer and installed it to see how it looked, not too bad for a paper marquee. The coin door is coming along quite good I think. I need a new router bit though as mine is getting dull and scorched the wood in a few places. If I was to do the coin door again, I would not have made the corners so round.  :angry: Oh well, live and learn. Inside the coin return holes, I am going to put usb plugins using usb extension cables. Will these stay put if I hot glue them into place? You will have to get on your hands and knees to be able to see them so looks are not too important. The hardest part of making your own coin door is getting the holes to be square. I used a file to clean up any jaggies left over from my jigsaw and to square the holes up. I found the Midway coindoor label graphic JamieMcShan uploaded to the arcade artwork library and printed it up. I even experimented with some metallic looking paper my wife had for scrapbooking to see if I could improve on it, but it really came out best just printing it on a color laser with plain old white paper. He did a good job creating this one.



















My next job will be cleaning up my garage a little so I can find my tools again. I need to strip everything out of the cabinet too so nothing gets damaged with the dust. I need to pick up some more terminal blocks to finish the wiring on the keyboard encoder. I'm really excited about this. I was turned off of going this route on my first cab but so far on this one everything looks good. I checked the continuity on my soldering job and everything checks out. Next for this will be digging out an old computer to test it on (so I don't accidentally fry a good motherboard, but I'm pretty confident about it). The instructions by Marshall Brooks http://www.mameworld.net/emuadvice/keyhack2.html has been very helpful with the keyboard hack, even though he recommends against using them unless absolutely nessesary since encoders are pretty easy to come by now. Like I said though, I'm on a tight budget this go round. I will be ordering the joystick later this week and hopfully I can get some controls mounted in a few weeks. I need to concentrate on getting the old Dell motherboard mounted as well. Hopefully I will have some more good updates in the coming weeks.
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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-10-29)
« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2008, 11:10:11 am »
Confirmed; keyboard hack works. Now to map out its matrix! :woot

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-10-29)
« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2008, 02:50:33 pm »
Looking Great!

BTW... get a keyboard encoder, they are so cheap and you will be glad you spent the money.

Jamie

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-10-29)
« Reply #12 on: November 01, 2008, 02:15:47 am »
Yeah I got a keywiz in my other cab but I'm really trying to save money this go round. I just got a project box for the keyboard encoder I hacked and hopefully I'll have some pictures to post of it completed soon. Feeling really satisfied hacking my own on this one but I know what you mean. If I needed more inputs than I do, I would definitely do something different. I'm feeling the sting of the $59 I just spent for the mag stick plus and red ball top shaft I just ordered. This is the most I've had to spend on this project so far. I really respect the job you did on your cab. I know it must have been really tough working with half inch MDF, it probably really helps with the illiusion of scale. I'm excited to see what mine turns out like using 3/4 MDF. Hopefully my next post will include pictures of....

1. Keyboard enclosure completed.
2. Coin door completion (but maybe not mounted yet).
3. Upper exhaust fan mounted.
4. Some bezel work, not quite sure on this yet.

My son says I need to put the burger king smiley on here so... :burgerking: and since its halloween :cheers:

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-10-29)
« Reply #13 on: November 03, 2008, 01:03:23 pm »
OK, I didn't get around to the bezel but here are some pics of the progress so far.

PC mounted


Power supply mounted


Keyboard encoder, hacked and enclosed. Mapped the matrix and ready to wire controls (waiting for joystick to arrive).


Top of cab, with fan grill and volume knob. I also put a lock on the back door. I'm embarrassed by how dusty and dirty this fresh paint job already looks.


Completed coin door. Wife doesn't like the Midway design so I might skip the coin door label (sorry Jamie). I like it, but I can't make it look real enough I guess. this pic makes the "orange peel" affect look worse than it is. Its actually closer to a real coin door finish.


Almost completed control panel. Just waiting for the mag stick plus with optional red balltop to arrive.


My son is excited. Me too, I'm ready to be done so I can start thinking about a mountain juke clone. The cab in this pic makes it look larger than it is bacause I have it on a rolling platform, its actually about 4 inches shorter.
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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-03)
« Reply #14 on: November 03, 2008, 05:43:25 pm »
I think that the coin door looks pretty good - unless it looks substantially different in the flesh, then I'd be more than happy with it. Is it hinged or fixed in place?

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-03)
« Reply #15 on: November 03, 2008, 05:46:00 pm »
I think that the coin door looks pretty good - unless it looks substantially different in the flesh, then I'd be more than happy with it. Is it hinged or fixed in place?

I agree - the coin door looks great in the pictures...   that's a nice little cab you are putting together (I have a thing for mini cabs).  :cheers:

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-03)
« Reply #16 on: November 04, 2008, 01:00:03 pm »
Thanks for the nice comments guys. The coin door comes off. Its held in place by the lock. I will be mounting the cd drive on the inside just under the coin door so I can get to it and do updates without pulling the cab out. I'll be adding a wireless card for updates and stuff as well. javeryh, I only hope mine comes out half as nice as your Bella cab did. I know my paint job won't be nearly as nice though (I don't have the time or patience to do what you did to yours).

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-04)
« Reply #17 on: November 05, 2008, 01:13:02 am »
Finished the bezel tonight. Added a power button too. Mounted cd rom drive. Still waiting for joystick. It left Heathrow airport yesterday morning so probably a couple days out to get to Washington State.




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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-04)
« Reply #18 on: November 05, 2008, 01:22:41 pm »
Man this is looking great!

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-04)
« Reply #19 on: November 05, 2008, 05:53:09 pm »
Thanks DaOld Man!

I'm really excited to get the joystick to see how it looks. I'll post a picture after it arrives and I get it all wired up.

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-04)
« Reply #20 on: November 11, 2008, 02:28:51 pm »
Cab is pretty much done except for sideart which I'll be getting this weekend, and I need to purchase a Nova Matrix from GGG for the Marquee. I got the front art printed at Kinkos Fedex Office to color match the paint. The self adhesive vinyl they sell has a matte or flat finish. When I got the paint mixed up I decided that to best way to match the art would be to get flat paint. Well, the paint job is definitely flat but it really actually looks pretty good that way and you don't even notice the art is just a big label unless you look for it. It matches very well and I'm happy with it.



Folding chair next to it to give a sense of scale.


Thanks to Marshall Brooks, AKA Tiger Heli for his excellent writeup on hacking your own keyboard encoder at http://www.mameworld.net/emuadvice/main.html .  The wiring is going to be redone as I ran out of hookup wire and started using cat 5 wire. I actually prefer the cat 5 believe it or not. Hacking my own was very challenging and rewarding. With only using 14 inputs, ghosting is not a problem. I am able to hold down all 6 action buttons and hit all diagonals without ghosting or blocking.


I am so happy the way the usb ports turned out. It makes it very simple to plug in a controller for P2 or plug in a usb stick for updates or a keyboard for other maintenance.


The usb ports are just extension cables hot glued in place. Not the most elegant solution but very effective. You can also see how the coin door stays in place.


The other wire is for P1 and P2 insert coin.




Here she is showing off her figure, or is it a he since its a pac man?


Something I hadn't planned on was the fact that the computer would not fit through the opening. I simply removed the bottom board under the door and made that so it could be unscrewed. In other words, I didn't use wood filler over the screw holes like the rest of the cab.


The power cable is just a computer cable. I snipped the female plug off and attached a replacement from Home Depot. The replacement is round, so I drilled the appropriate hole and hot glued it in place. Again, crude but effective.


On the other side I mounted a surge protector. Something else I have done that is not in the picture is mount a second fan on this board. I noticed the upper fan was not pulling the heat out of the bottom as well as I had planned so another fan was needed.


Here is a shot of the Game being paused using Headkaze's excellent CPWizard. Headkaze, I owe you a donation.


Heres another shot of the CPWizard


Hyperspin


I might have to bring the mini into my office and put it next to my regular sized cab for a better sense of scale. I cannot play on the mini or do anything with the software unless I'm sitting down, its so short.

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-11) 95 % complete
« Reply #21 on: November 11, 2008, 02:41:17 pm »
Outstanding.   :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud: :applaud:

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-11) 95 % complete
« Reply #22 on: November 11, 2008, 02:53:40 pm »
Papa Bear and Baby Bear. Just need Mama Bear now. (LOL, That'l never happen! I'm lucky she let me build these!)

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Re: Oh no! Not another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-11) 95 % complete
« Reply #23 on: November 16, 2008, 06:24:51 pm »
99% complete, just needs a marquee light.




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Re: Oh yes! Another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-16) 99% complete
« Reply #24 on: November 16, 2008, 06:31:44 pm »
Very nice work!

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Re: Oh yes! Another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-16) 99% complete
« Reply #25 on: November 16, 2008, 07:05:11 pm »
10 things you won't like about my cab.

1. It is a horizontal mame for a vertical original.

2. It has 6 buttons instead of 1, 2 or none.

3. I printed most of the art myself on a color laserjet.

4. You don't like the short throw on the mag stick plus.

5. I used flat paint to match the artwork.

6. I had the front and side art done at Kinkos.

7. I used Ms Pac-man style plans for a Pac Man cab (oops, I didn't realize this until it was too late).

8. It doesn't have a real coin door or take coins.

9. I used hot glue to hold some of the stuff together.

10. I didn't paint, sand, paint, sand, paint, sand, followed by 5 clear coats, nor did I spend a lot of money on laminate.



Total spent on this project.

$20 at radio shack for misc conectors and stuff.

$20 Craigslist 19 inch monitor.

$40 something for MDF, lets just round it up to $50 shall we?

$145 for art at kinkos

$59 for mag stick plus and optional ball top plus shipping.

$15 for quarter inch plexi at Home Depot

$45 for misc stuff at Home Depot (hinges, screws, paint etc)

$20 (aprox) for buttons from tornado terry.

$5 for keyboard

$10 for project box and terminals.

$3 at Micheal's for black foam board for bezel.

Total $392

Free or already had on hand from previous cab

Computer

Marquee plexi

CPO plexi

Misc wood pieces I used to hold thing together

Wood Filler


I'm sure there is a lot more I'm forgetting but thats about it in a nutshell. If anyone ever needs help making one of these or has a question, feel free to e-mail me or send a private message. I will try to get back to you as soon as I can.


People I would like to thank

JamieMcShan for inspiration for the coin door and the mini cab in general. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=56370.0

javeryh for the inspiration from his Bella cab. I only wish I had half his patience and documentation skills http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=59828.0

Marshall Brooks (tiger-heli) for help with the keyboard encoder stuff even though he did try to persuade me to buy a keywiz :) http://www.mameworld.net/emuadvice/keyhack2.html

Headkaze for his excellent CPWizard. http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=74091.0

Saint for his excellent website and book.

BYOAC community for all the great ideas.

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Re: Oh yes! Another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-16) 99% complete
« Reply #26 on: February 23, 2015, 12:53:09 am »
Are you willing to share the patterns you used for the cabinet? I'd love to build one of these for my 6 year old son! :)
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Re: Oh yes! Another Mini Pac Man cab! (updated 2008-11-16) 99% complete
« Reply #27 on: February 23, 2015, 09:08:59 am »
Awesome, awesome job. Looks fantastic. Dad of the year!  :applaud: