Author Topic: Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 Noob Saibot Wavenet information ??? (Read 13655 times)

ctozzi · « **on:** October 09, 2008, 03:47:00 pm »

Anyone ever seen the so called Wavenet UMK3 machine in action with Noob Saibot as a playable character ? I would like to see if anyone has any info on how to aquire this ? I believe from what I've read it was a mishap that was only released in Chicago and San Fran, but thought I'd ask here to see if anyone has this or knowns how I can aquire this.
I have read that it was a dedicated T1 line that ran to Midway to test the game out. I wonder if this is anyway playable these days ?

Hunk_4TH · « **Reply #1 on:** October 09, 2008, 08:26:13 pm »

Quote from: ctozzi on October 09, 2008, 03:47:00 pm

Anyone ever seen the so called Wavenet UMK3 machine in action with Noob Saibot as a playable character ? I would like to see if anyone has any info on how to aquire this ? I believe from what I've read it was a mishap that was only released in Chicago and San Fran, but thought I'd ask here to see if anyone has this or knowns how I can aquire this.
I have read that it was a dedicated T1 line that ran to Midway to test the game out. I wonder if this is anyway playable these days ?

I'd like to know this as well. There doesn't seem to be a dump of it either pretty strange if you ask me, though I know it existed/exists

subedriver · « **Reply #2 on:** October 10, 2008, 12:09:06 am »

would also like to know about this, never seen it though

RayB · « **Reply #3 on:** October 10, 2008, 01:18:33 am »

As I recall, it was pure rumour, possibly even started by a gaming magazine for an April Fools issue. (but you know how people are... once a rumor is out, there's no disbelieving with some folks!)

ctozzi · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2008, 09:59:57 am »

it's not a rumor the info is on evry description of UMK3 on the internet. I'm simply trying to see if anyone played it and had more info on it.

shardian · « **Reply #5 on:** October 10, 2008, 10:27:32 am »

I don't remember seeing Noob in the arcade. There was a human smoke though, maybe some people confused that?

I do remember playing as Noob on the Sega Genesis release of UMK3. Using him was borderline cheating - his moves ROCKED!

ctozzi · « **Reply #6 on:** October 10, 2008, 10:33:48 am »

Here is the official info so people don't think I'm making it up
[edit] Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 Wave Net
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 Wave Net was a rare network version of Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3. It was tested only in the Chicago and San Francisco areas so many people outside this area were not aware of its existence during its release. One outlet that stocked it still has the T1 line used for it installed. This version included extras that were available even in local play. It ran over a T1 line that was directly connected back to Midway HQ in Chicago.

One of the reasons this version wasn't widely adopted was the rarity and cost of T1 lines at the time. The game was released before alternative broadband access was available. At the time, a T1 was the only guaranteed way to get broadband into an arcade, but the game didn't utilize the full bandwidth of the T1. Midway subsidized the cost of the line during the tests to make it more attractive to the arcade owners.

It is highly unlikely that any WAVENet test games were ever released to the public after the infrastructure was dismantled, and so there are no known dumps of the ROMs used by the games designed for it.

Turnarcades · « **Reply #7 on:** October 10, 2008, 11:36:06 am »

You really love your MK don't you?!

I used to love these 'what if?' rumours back in the day! Some turned out true (the early rumours of a Nintendo CD - fruition in to the Playstation), some were a load of tripe (rumours of cheats to access characters/gore in censored games) but they all encouraged healthy debate and gave free advertising!

MK was one of the biggest generator of rumours as even the makers played on it ('Kano Transformations' in the MK2 arcade settings). Seeing as there was a 'Challenger Hack' of MK2, don't be surprised if there was an early/prototype/hacked version of MK3 with Noob playable.

Then again, with this 'limited locale' back story it could just be another Polybius.

shardian · « **Reply #8 on:** October 10, 2008, 11:40:42 am »

The EGM created MK1 Art Lean rumor was the best of all time. They even had a screen shot of Art doing his front flip decapitation. They even had clear cut directions on how to do the trick. Man I played for HOURS to do this, and I eventually got it down pat. What a ---smurfing--- letdown!

EDIT: It was Nimbus Terrafax. My Bad!

Turnarcades · « **Reply #9 on:** October 10, 2008, 11:56:16 am »

Not heard of this. Got any pics?

Witchboard · « **Reply #10 on:** October 10, 2008, 12:15:19 pm »

I recently have seen a Mortal Kombat with an extra board for network play for sale. I can't remember if it was on eBay or another forum. I also can't remember which Mortal Kombat it was. I'll do some searching and see if I can find it again.

HaRuMaN · « **Reply #11 on:** October 10, 2008, 12:16:30 pm »

Quote from: ctozzi on October 10, 2008, 09:59:57 am

it's not a rumor the info is on evry description of UMK3 on the internet

It's on the innerwebs so it must be true!

Malenko · « **Reply #12 on:** October 10, 2008, 02:28:06 pm »

No, it existed. It was midways attempt to make MK a "tourny" game. They only tested it in a few locations, and there are few if any boards left out there. I'd like to find a board set, not only to run in my cab, but I'd send it somewhere to get it dumped for MAME lol.

fjl · « **Reply #13 on:** October 10, 2008, 02:55:05 pm »

So this wavenet version was made so players could play each other over the net?

Malenko · « **Reply #14 on:** October 10, 2008, 05:21:16 pm »

Quote from: efjayel on October 10, 2008, 02:55:05 pm

So this wavenet version was made so players could play each other over the net?

I believe the idea behind it was so they could have tournies at different arcades and then for example, the winner in San Fran could Fight the Winner in chicago. its a good idea but the technology at the time wasnt cost efficient. The crazy part is, it'd totally work nowadays just hook a cab up to a cable modem, but now that the technology is here and affordable, the arcades arent.

MrMojoZ · « **Reply #15 on:** October 11, 2008, 10:27:26 am »

Well people do this everyday in their homes now so it just isn't as impressive of a technology now.

fjl · « **Reply #16 on:** October 12, 2008, 11:46:41 pm »

Far as I know, they don't have any version of Mortal Kombat with official online play. X-box maybe? I don't own that system so I dont know.

testicle187 · « **Reply #17 on:** October 13, 2008, 12:46:32 am »

Quote from: efjayel on October 12, 2008, 11:46:41 pm

Far as I know, they don't have any version of Mortal Kombat with official online play. X-box maybe? I don't own that system so I dont know.

PS3 has MK2 with online play.
Xbox360 has UMK3 with online play.

Both... are laggy as ---steaming pile of meadow muffin---. Almost completely and totally unplayable like Street Fighter online games.

ctozzi · « **Reply #18 on:** October 13, 2008, 10:03:18 am »

exactly my point. There is Kaillera online, but i cannot figure out how to get it to work.

madgammer · « **Reply #19 on:** October 17, 2008, 02:04:36 pm »

I got my mk3 dedicated cab about 2 years ago from a local arcade shop that closed down. When I went to look at it there was a second daughter board on it and the owner didn't know what it was for. I think it's a pc motherboard of some type becuase it has a keyboard and mouse connector as well as a nic card on it with 2 pieces of ram. Is that the board your looking for?

Malenko · « **Reply #20 on:** October 17, 2008, 02:45:40 pm »

Quote from: madgammer on October 17, 2008, 02:04:36 pm

I got my mk3 dedicated cab about 2 years ago from a local arcade shop that closed down. When I went to look at it there was a second daughter board on it and the owner didn't know what it was for. I think it's a pc motherboard of some type becuase it has a keyboard and mouse connector as well as a nic card on it with 2 pieces of ram. Is that the board your looking for?

sounds like it, got pix?

fjl · « **Reply #21 on:** October 17, 2008, 03:51:43 pm »

Yes, pls show pix.

ctozzi · « **Reply #22 on:** October 17, 2008, 05:19:54 pm »

Yes does it work ? if so want to sell it ?

Reptilz · « **Reply #23 on:** December 23, 2008, 12:27:04 pm »

anymore news on this? Im also interested in seeing pics.

ctozzi · « **Reply #24 on:** December 23, 2008, 12:27:49 pm »

No nothing at all

Reptilz · « **Reply #25 on:** April 11, 2010, 03:31:50 pm »

There are 2 versions of the Wavenet where Noob Saibot was playable in arcades. And they had different versions of Noob Saibot.

Mortal Kombat 3 Wavenet
Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3 Wavenet

WhereEaglesDare · « **Reply #26 on:** April 11, 2010, 04:21:35 pm »

::::THREAD RISES FROM THE DEAD:::: MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Malenko · « **Reply #27 on:** April 11, 2010, 06:47:45 pm »

I have the UMK3 Zeus hack, which has a playable Noob Siabot

Haze · « **Reply #28 on:** April 11, 2010, 09:10:30 pm »

Quote from: Malenko on October 10, 2008, 02:28:06 pm

No, it existed. It was midways attempt to make MK a "tourny" game. They only tested it in a few locations, and there are few if any boards left out there. I'd like to find a board set, not only to run in my cab, but I'd send it somewhere to get it dumped for MAME lol.

and I believe if it was dumped it would be nearly worthless in MAME.

The impression I get from every piece of information I've seen about it is that there was some kind of client->server model (rather than cab->cab connections) The server software would manage the games, perform the matchmaking, handle the rankings etc. etc.

Without BOTH the server and client software, it's not going to do much, and you can bet there was only one copy of the server software somewhere at Midway and that's long gone, even if the boards aren't.

So, even if a board shows up, it probably won't be that interesting from the point of view of a gamer, I'm still inclined to think a lot of what is said about it is nothing more than rumours tho, I'd be surprised if there were extra characters, rather than just a crude attempt to implement a network ranking system which ultimately failed.

Malenko · « **Reply #29 on:** April 11, 2010, 09:20:20 pm »

no fair, you cant quote me from 2 years ago!

is the Zeus hack supported in MAME yet? I haven't checked.

Haze · « **Reply #30 on:** April 12, 2010, 06:39:26 am »

Quote from: Malenko on April 11, 2010, 09:20:20 pm

no fair, you cant quote me from 2 years ago!

is the Zeus hack supported in MAME yet? I haven't checked.

No, it's a user made hack (at least the one floating about) not one which was used on the arcade boards back in the day. I believe misfit supports it, if not, the next version of misfit will.

Malenko · « **Reply #31 on:** April 13, 2010, 11:38:39 am »

Quote from: Haze on April 12, 2010, 06:39:26 am

Quote from: Malenko on April 11, 2010, 09:20:20 pm
no fair, you cant quote me from 2 years ago!

is the Zeus hack supported in MAME yet? I haven't checked.

No, it's a user made hack (at least the one floating about) not one which was used on the arcade boards back in the day. I believe misfit supports it, if not, the next version of misfit will.

just FYI, I had hobbyroms burn me a set and put them in my UMK3 boardset and it worked fine.

mud409 · « **Reply #32 on:** December 21, 2010, 03:31:51 pm »

Wavenet isn't a rumor! However, this is the first time I've ever heard of MK3 Wavenet.

Forget the Zeus hack. Now a days we use the Juggernaut hack.

No reason to unlock characters, or pick R. Smoke to get H. Smoke. New ladder boards, fixed combo scoring, end & bio screens for characters that didn't have one before. Will work on the real board, or any mame that doesn't require you to verify the romset.

Malenko · « **Reply #33 on:** December 23, 2010, 03:27:35 pm »

I'll have to contact steph and get this. Do you have the rom files? So if he doesnt have them I can pass them along. I have the legit UMK3 V1.1 and 1.2 boards incase you were wondering, and I'd love to put that in my machine. If only they had a hack where you can play the "galaxian" game all the time, instead of entering the code before every match.


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