Currently available 27in or 29in monitors that do 1024x 768?

[gatordad]

My current cga monitor has developed issues so I am starting to look for a eventual replacement.

Looking for what is still being produced and available in a 27 or 28 in crt.

Wants include
Multisync 15, 24, 31 and More?
auto switching,
memory of image adjustments (digital) OSD
Remote adjustment board
ability to do 1024 by 768 is a big want as well.

What is the ultimate mame monitor? for running off a PC?


I have an AVGA but would prefer to run soft 15 with a card that has more horsepower for current DX9 computer games.

Thanks
GD

[gatordad]

Ok here is what I have found so far.

Nieman displays has 2 different 29in or 27v monitors
The digital one is vga 640x480, svga, 800x600 and xga 1024x768 and looks similar in spec's to the to the Makvision High Res monitor but the Makvision one only does svga and xga.

Nieman also offers a tri mode non digital monitor cga, 640x200 ega, 640x400 and vga640x480 which is similar to makvision tri mode which also does cga, ega and vga. as well as the Billabs.

Billabs is only currently offering a 27in trimode cga, ega, vga monitor at this time. Everything else that they had is currently not available any longer? go figure the current stuff is a step backwards from their previous stuff.

WG also has the 9200 and 9400
The 9200 cga, ega, vga
The 9400 is cga, and ega

Any others current 27 or 29inch monitors out there that you guys can think of.

[Rickn]

Yes our model 3827 will do from 31 Khz to 48 Khz, On screen display and digital. The tube is .5 DPI which I believe is better than our competition.

By all means if you have more questions... e-mail me.

Rick@niemandisplays.com

[Ummon]

I think .5 DPI is better than any of them have ever been in that size.

As for the 9200, it's not available anymore, though it went up to SVGA. And I was under the impression the 9400 was similarly capable. Also (a tired old saw this is) look on ebay and locally for presentation monitors.

[gatordad]

I think .5 DPI is better than any of them have ever been in that size.

As for the 9200, it's not available anymore, though it went up to SVGA. And I was under the impression the 9400 was similarly capable. Also (a tired old saw this is) look on ebay and locally for presentation monitors.

Thanks, You are correct
I checked the WG monitor page and the 9400 is capable of cga ega vga and svga, and is digital and auto sync
Decisions decisions......
I can't make up my mind
Is the PC games on the nieman at 1024x 768 worth it (I play trackmania daily on my cab.. I luv that game)
or should I gain the ability to do native stuff at cga and only do computer games at svga (9400)
Would any one with either of these monitors chime in and give some input about your experience
Thanks alot
GD

[ahofle]

Just so you know, you can do 1024x768 interlaced on any monitor capable of 25khz resoultions (ie the 9400) with a tool like Soft15khz.  Looks perfect in games (a little flickery if running Windows desktop at that resolution though), so you could use that for Trackmania.  I'm running 1024x768 interlaced on my Betson which only goes up to 800x600 too and it looks terrific.

Here is the Soft15khz modeline for interlaced 1024x768:

modeline '1024x768@59,959i' 29,49 1024 1040 1136 1200 768 776 782 820 interlace -hsync -vsync

[gatordad]

Just so you know, you can do 1024x768 interlaced on any monitor capable of 25khz resoultions (ie the 9400) with a tool like Soft15khz.  Looks perfect in games (a little flickery if running Windows desktop at that resolution though), so you could use that for Trackmania.  I'm running 1024x768 interlaced on my Betson which only goes up to 800x600 too and it looks terrific.

Here is the Soft15khz modeline for interlaced 1024x768:

modeline '1024x768@59,959i' 29,49 1024 1040 1136 1200 768 776 782 820 interlace -hsync -vsync

How is windows stuff at svga 800x600 on an arcade monitor?

[Justin Z]

I don't have an arcade monitor but I have a Mitsubishi Megaview so it's basically the same thing.  800x600i looks pretty decent, but bright, straight lines do flicker on desktop.  When I'm doing 800x600p it looks fantastic.

[ahofle]

How is windows stuff at svga 800x600 on an arcade monitor?

You mean on a CGA arcade monitor?  Or a multisync like the 9400?  On the Betson it's pretty good (can't speak for the WG).  Not very sharp of course due to the lower dot pitch, but absolutely no flicker and windows looks good (I run the desktop at 800x600 on my Betson).

[gatordad]

OK
I never thought making a choice this could be so damn hard. It seems that there is no clear cut easy choice.

I searched the forum and it appears that the betson has some issues with squishing and such. and generally leaves people disappointed and or frustrated.

I also read that the d9400 has their long list of  issues supposedly resolved

I am tempted to get the Nieman (the vga svga and xvga) monitor but the lack of support for cga is holding me back from pulling the trigger. as 90% of games run at cga.

any other input would be helpful
Thanks
GD

[ahofle]

I agree it's not an easy choice at the moment.  If Rick from Nieman would release a digital multisync (CGA/EGA/VGA) I think the "best MAME monitor dilemma" would be completely over.  I would most likely dump my Betson and buy one instantly.  He says the only thing keeping him from doing it is the lack of a programmer for the OSD, but apparently he has an OSD for his VGA/SVGA/XGA multisync, so I don't quite understand that one.

Here's my opinion: from what's available right now, I would personally go with the WG as I have not heard very many issues with their newer version (9400).  It has digital memory and with it you will pretty much be able to run every single game out there at the correct resolution (although vertical games' scanlines will be going the wrong way, but that's practically a non-issue).  I love my Betson except for the squishing on the sides.  Other than that it's perfect for emulation.  If the 9400 does not suffer from the squishing (and the QC problems from the 9200 are corrected) I think you will be very happy with it.  Just my 2 cents.

[Ummon]

Yeah, pretty much what aholfe said. However, there is the following option: depending on the type of scanlines you want, you could go with the upper multisync Nieman and use Mame's effects, in particular the 'scanlines' effect. Especially with vertical games on an horizontal monitor, the displayed size is about the same as 19" vertical monitors, and hence look close to the very small lines in such monitors.

But, if you want native, you're going to have to get a multi-sync. And SVGA isn't that different than XGA. Although, Rick said the dot pitch on his was .5mm - and most multisyncs are at least .7 I think.