where can i buy a Suzo Inductive Stick (32mm or 30mm ball handle)

[kowal]

I think now SUIC is very rare and price must to grow up:P
flash1 36$ now 160-180$:)
I want from SUZO new inductive joystick with normal appearance and assembly

[Mancer]

I sent an email to Suzo-Happ here in the U.S. and didn't receive a reply. Hah.

As many as you can get your hands on ideally. 4 of the 32mm if possible.

Thanks in advance for checking.

There's only one Suzo headquarters and that is over here in The Netherlands. Suzo was founded in 1955 in Rotterdam (very near where I live).
It's now moved to a small town (Oud-Beijerland) near Rotterdam.

I guess the Suzo-Happ merger makes confusing

Anyway, I'll check if they still have some (yes, I meant the complete joystick). How many would you want ?

At one point in time the rep there tried to sell me the entire lot for a great price, but I just didn't see much interest in them. Dollar-Euro rate makes things worse I guess....

[Ummon]

What is it about this stick that some people like so?

I have four, though I haven't decided whether to mess with them. More than needing a molex connector to hook them up, the ball of the stick handle is larger than a joystick hole; the bottom is difficult to get off; and you need a special set of plyers to remove the stick retaining ring deep inside.

[kowal]

only one electronic short throw stick on world
inductive arrangement is 100x  better from optical LED (symmetrical, durability). LED sux only inductive and Hall effect.
very good octagonal restrictor (fell is better than sanwa or seimitsu octagonal)
symmetrical diagonals and normal direction all is 45 degree (other electronic stick like HappP360  only15degrees, Wico P360 30degrees) similar degrees have only U360 but SUZO is old construction (over min15 years (20?))
regulated potentiometers you can easy calibrate axis X and Y
"joystick forever" I never see and never hear about broken SUZO, if something damaged this your mechanical fault or 2000V, this stick is imperishable.
find better stick for shmups and fast game - unreal

yes pivot crunches with time and it is ugly and have difficult assembly
but parameters and idea this stick is perfect

arcade world need new suzo inductive with better construction

[Level42]

Exactly what Kowal writes. These are the best joysticks ever.Period.

They are ideal for MAME IMHO. I've got 2 (38 mm) on my Mame cab. I've always liked the Suzo joysticks because I grew up with them. Not only on the arcade machines we played, but also at home I had a Suzo Competition Pro with leafs (yes the very first one's were with leafs !) I loved the short travel and throw. Very accurate and extremely durable. They still work fine today and I use them whenever I play my Atari 8-bit computers.

For the inductives:
Only if you play games like Robotron (with lot's of rotary joystick action) you will have to file out the "edges" that guide you to the 8 positions normally.

I even "hacked" the potmeter set-up so that I can switch between 4 and 8-way electronically. Very easy to do.

It's also the ONLY stick that you can set-up for Q*bert _perfectly_. You just configure the left-up, right-up etc in MAME so that it acts as the correct directions in the game. There is no physical problem with this, there is no 2 switches having to be "pressed" that way, because there is no physical contact anywhere. This also makes it extremely durable.

I never use the included red connector as it sucks big time. Instead I used those white connectors that you need to clamp pins in. There must be a thread about it somewhere. Those are much sturdier.

Indeed I think they must be about 20 years old now. They still have "STC Rotterdam" on them,so Suzo was still in Rotterdam at that time, and that's already a long time ago that they moved.

I totally forgot Kowal, but didn't you make dedicated replacement shafts and ball-tops for these ? I think I even ordered some from you ? I _completely_ forgot about it !!!

[Edit] White connectors story here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=58328.0

Kowals' custom made shafts: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=53719.0

[Mancer]

More than needing a molex connector to hook them up, the ball of the stick handle is larger than a joystick hole;

[Edit] White connectors story here: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=58328.0

I actually bought a Molex kk series 6-pin female housing to wire it up and even though the 2.54mm pitch matched, the plastic housing itself was too tall to fit snugly in the opening. Fry's didn't have any Berg connectors, so I ended up ripping out the power/reset/hdd led wires out of a derelict computer case and using those. It would be nice to have a proper harness, but it's probably not worth it to mail-order the Berg crimping tool and housings/pins to wire up a stick or two. The supplied red mta 100 connector is even more obscure.

Kowals' custom made shafts: http://forum.arcadecontrols.com/index.php?topic=53719.0

Those look nice. Suzo-Happ's site still shows the 32mm STC being available which should fit, but those don't have the ferrite ring at the end. GGG also sells a replacement shaft for the STC, but since it's made to allow mounting under thicker CPs, the shaft is longer and increases the throw. I have a couple of them and have considered taking a Dremel to shorten the length and create a new c-clip groove at the proper position, but I'd still have to conjure up a ferrite actuator. Short of finding a cache of 32mm shafts somewhere, are there any other ways to reduce the throw on this stick?

[kowal]

Hi I sell all custom shaft
1cm more on shaft incrase throw only about 1mm
38mm ver has 7mm 32mm ver. 6mm
ferrite ring is cheap max1$

[Level42]

Got a reply from Suzo. They still have 16 in stock. €25 each.

If you'd like to pay through PayPal I'll need to add a little something for the conversion and PP rates.

With current rates (you did not choose a good time I'm afraid) it's about 37 USD per stick.....

And of course shipping will need to be added.

Let me know if and how many you want.

[Mancer]

Level42, I wasn't sure if you were checking your pms or not. I'm definitely interested in picking these up. Send me a pm when you get a chance. Thanks again for checking for me.

[Zapf]

I called up my local happ sales rep to see if what they can get me in regards to the suzo inductive - for some reason she only had the one ending in -3 in their database (38mm i guess), I told her to ask about either. Hopefully she follows through and gets the right info from suzo hq.

[Zapf]

Success! I placed an order for 2 today. $37 each, not sure about the shipping yet - apparently they charge me immediately, then adjust the charge to account for a more accurate shipping cost when it gets stateside or something.

[Zapf]

Success! I placed an order for 2 today. $37 each, not sure about the shipping yet - apparently they charge me immediately, then adjust the charge to account for a more accurate shipping cost when it gets stateside or something.

an update - I finally got two about two months after I placed my order. it ended up being $90 total w/ shipping. I was hopin to sell one on the shmups forum to make up some of the cost of the first one, but noone seems interested in one of the best shmupping sticks ever =/

[Ummon]

That's cos they're sanwa/seimitsu freaks. I don't know why, cos those sticks have wild throw and grand canyon 8-way troughs.

[TOK]

That's cos they're sanwa/seimitsu freaks. I don't know why, cos those sticks have wild throw and grand canyon 8-way troughs.

No idea what you're talking about, but Suzo inductives are excellent sticks.
I have two of them in my vert cab and they are really nice. Light, perfect throw, etc. They are odd looking for people used to Happ and Wico stuff, but once you start using them in games that is all forgotten.

I also have a Sanwa ball top micro-switch stick that feels nothing like your description up there.

[Level42]

Hey Zapf, glad it worked out in the end. At least I got the dollar price correct. Not sure if it would have been any more expensive if I would have bought them (it would at least have been a lot faster).

I grew up with Suzo sticks and they rock. The inductive is the best they ever made and it is the most underrated stick ever. It easily beats any stick IMHO, the only exception is the Midway PacMan stick.

I've always hated any Japanese sticks. Throw and travel are WAAAAAAY to long for me...

[Zapf]

That's cos they're sanwa/seimitsu freaks. I don't know why, cos those sticks have wild throw and grand canyon 8-way troughs.

well I know kowal posts there, and theres at least one other suzo fanatic, just hoped it would have rubbed off on the rest =S

[Ummon]

That's cos they're sanwa/seimitsu freaks. I don't know why, cos those sticks have wild throw and grand canyon 8-way troughs.

No idea what you're talking about, but Suzo inductives are excellent sticks.
I have two of them in my vert cab and they are really nice. Light, perfect throw, etc. They are odd looking for people used to Happ and Wico stuff, but once you start using them in games that is all forgotten.

I also have a Sanwa ball top micro-switch stick that feels nothing like your description up there.

Actually, I think the inductive/euro stick is one of the oddest looking sticks I've seen. And I'd half its throw if I could (would be really easy by having a new sleeve piece machined larger, though I don't know how the sensor system would react to it), but it's at least less than the sanwas/seimitsus I've experienced.

[digitron]

For those with Suzo Inductives, which arcade enclosures (case) did you use to get them mounted in? Thx